... well, not a paradox, but an infinite loop...

 

Naw dont staht thah eggen.

 

your mama

 

I said nothing of the sort. You made a generalization that every cvic runs 9s. I've seen many 9 second civics, naturally aspirated and boosted. They aren't very streetable. New jersey has the shittiest roads to drive on and you aren't using stock suspension at that point.

Why you're so proud of someone else's civic blows my mind though.

 

Why we have a topic made by a bunch of people with 14+ second cars bashing other people's 14+ second cars but with less than 1/2 the displacement blows my mind.

 

too many things blowing my mind is blowing my mind

 

You avatar reminds me of that kid "Walt Jr" from Breaking Bad.

 

cause back in the 80's low 14's and high 13;s were fast and thats were most of the ppl in this thread are stuck , the god dang 80's

 

woo hoo. i would give my left nut to go the 80's and get stuck there for the rest of my life instead of this miserable present day!!!

 

haha so would i , just need to do away with the crappy 80's music first

oh yeah and the big hair cant forget about getting rid of that as well if we could do the 80's all over again

 

its an old picture of me, i need to update it lol

 

.....i thought the music was one of the BEST parts of the 80's lol

 

reagen, thirdgens, dale earnhardt and aryton senna are still alive, i'm down and i wasn't even born yet, i bet i'd be good friends with my dad, hell yes push the rewind button on your walkmans and lets all go back to the cold war and heavy metal!!!!!!!!!

 

i retract my previous statement the heavy metal music can stay but all the other 80's crap music has to go

 

Dude yah. 1980-89
Omen
Satan
Savatage
Grim Reaper
Celtic Frost
Helloween
Black Sabbath
Fates Warning
Megadeth
Metallica when they were good
Slayer when they were good
Flotsam & Jetsom
Exodus
Anthrax
Living Sacrafice
Merciful Fate
King Diamond
Death
Death Angel
Obituary
Testement
Ozzy
AC/DC
Dio
Blind Guardian
Judas Priest
Iron Maiden
Running Wild
Manowar
Yngwie Malmsteen's Rising Force
Europe (tehe)


The 80's had some of the best music time has to offer.

No XBOX though.

 

I've had kids in my generation that listen to dub step and rap, the ones that would be lured to the imports, ask to have sex with my car. I know the stereotype for our white trash cars is out there, but I can't find it. I have only ever had people compliment me and envy me, ages 12 to 84. I don't know where me requiring validation comes into play. I love my car and think it is one of the coolest on the street. I could've gotten a fourthgen LS1 but chose a thirdgen because I think it is awesome. So no I require no validation.
RX7Speed, I wish you could make comments without first making assumptions. It would make your arguments more, well, valid.

 

No way. The two best bands came from the 80s... GnR and Social Distortion (although SD wasn't a hair band by any means).

 

It's a well known fact, 3rd gens and ******s go hand in hand.

Come over my house, you'll find a graveyard of GM vehicles, and a variety of f-bodies in the driveway and a house that is missing siding on one side lmao.

 

If you go north into Spring TX its all thirdgen statues in hirbirry yards. If you see a thirdgen driving around out in the city or out west, its usually really nice.

 

man, i dislike all those little fartboxes, they are no fun at all because they are so common. when you see an older camaro or firebird, with a sound that strikes fear in your heart, that is what gets me.. how many civics do you see that actually sound nice?

 

i love a mean sounding v8 and i mean the sound u get from a really built motor that u know is a damn strong motor just from hearing it/

on the other hand i really love how my twin turbo iroc kinda sounds like crap when idling but once ur crusing above 25mph at part throttle or u lay into it alls u can really hear is the sound of the turbos. it really makes ppl look at the car, but when they hear it idling they dont pay it any mind

 

dont need xbox we have awesome **** like wing commander and huge *** arcades mortal kombat!!!!!! it was a better time

 

How could you possibly leave out Overkill...?

 

Yo dawg, I heard to like to have your mind blown...

As far as the '80s goes, while I like many things from the '80s, I stick with progression through the years, there's always some new cool stuff coming around.

As far as a car being "cool" that is in the mind of the beholder. I have yet to have a third gen "strike fear" in me, or even consider one "cool". That's probably because around here they are like **** roaches, and were worse in the '80s and '90s, and just about everyone that drives one thinks they are "the ****" with their bone stock or lightly modded, TBI and TPI 305s. In fact I don't get intimidated by many V8 equipped '80s or earlier vehicles, I tend to go after more imports than domestics, because the imports are actually a challenge. Only a (very) few street driven domestics give me pause, and none of them are 3rd gens, and all of them are obviously modified, usually with blowers and tubbed.

 

I've never bashed. My junk is slow.

I have a 13 second, estimated 14 second, 15 second, and estimated 17 second cars.

The one with the most displacement is the slowest.

I never bashed on anyone but you sure as hell called my junk a shitbox.

 

damn, i had a turbo z as my first car (at 14). that car boogied.
my gsr runs harder than my third gen and a few others ive come across.
truth is, power to weight ratio will favor some, but if you wanna really look at it as a power potential, there really is no replacement for displacement.

 

lol sorry about that.
Don't feel bad I have my own shitboxes. My DD is an LT1 Z28 and my other toy does nothing but roast its tires and have the motor pulled out every other week.

 

My faster cars are 4 cylinders and my slower cars have v8s. My life is backwards.

 

This thread has provided hours of entertainment! I own a z28 and a 2011 rx8, (in my attempt to skirt the "rice" label with it being a rotary instead of a 4banger) to me both cars are extremely fun to drive and posses a personality all of their own. If you make real power, I don't care what its in I respect it. But as sure as the sky is blue were always going to have the 9 second ricers with $40 in stickers and a $20 fartcan, and the guys with modded 305s whopping up on ls1's and zr1s like they're in reverse making us all look bad.

 

How could you forget Celtic Frost, Marduk, Pentagram and Testament?

 

I need to get some more Celtic Frost, Never really listened to Marduk or Pentagram, and I wasn't a huge fan of early Testmement, But they should be on the list. Allow me to remedy the situation.

 

I think MegadetH is also missing

 

Man. how did I miss that? I have like 3 gigs of Megadeth. The first kareokee song I ever sang was angry again. it was also the last.

 

I don't know how you missed them. Grievous oversight.

 

Just added AC/DC, Sabbath, Yngwie, Living Sacrafice, Helloween, and Savatage to make up for it.

 

Eh the only 4 cylinder I ever owned was purchased for a demo derby

My fastest toy was rather a cammed oval port bbc or my cammed/vortec 350 SCSB S10. S10 defiantly has the potential with the 100 shot but lacks the traction even NA.

 

Great comments, but fast means 2 different things. In the US, it means either straight line or 'turn left' fast. In the rest of the world, it means how fast can you get around the streets of Monaco, with twists turns and dives. On the narrow, crowded hills and valleys near my home, I have to go easy w/ my 85 z28 and the 300+ horses don't really help. Nor do I want to 'drift' that car in those conditions. For that, I'd frankly rather have a tuner.

 

Imports are not cheaper. There is not really anything much cheaper about them. What this board supports is about as cheap as the hobby gets. Gen 1 small block chevy motor has cheap parts everywhere! Exhaust from a good aftermarket vendor for imports is actually really expensive which I have always found lame. Half the material for almost twice the cost!

Where you are right is...
I have built/owned and worked in race shops for imports as a tech. The only (and I mean ONLY) exception to this "cheaper rule" is factory turbo imports that are sold cheap. It's far easier to get a DSM in the 13's than say your typical mid/high 14 fox or iroc. Club DSM.org has a "freebies" section that shows you how to modify your MAF, stock intake and BCS for more boost and power. All for free. My net result was a 13.68@104 in my 97 GST. Oh yeah, it had a K&N. Want to know how to remove the limiter in a dsm? Take the ECU out and split it open. Next cut out the resistor that says R256. No more top end limiter. Stock with free mods it hit 156. Too bad it broke every other month..

Dont even get me started on turbo kits. $12-1800 + supporting mods and your only going high12's unless you spend a lot of money. Ive built more than a few LS turbo cars (Honda/Acura 1.7L) that only ran low 13's due to expenses.

Truth be told...
Now I was part of the import crowd when I was younger. Before Fast and the Furious was out. Going to import events in Dallas to go racing (still have the video) in my 88 300zx Turbo and again in Baytown RP in my DSM's. After the race, we would all go and party with people at or right around our age. Very "glam and clubbish" compared to a more family oriented domestic event... One night we all went to a private venue party/rave afterwards. Fun times! This is part of what made it fun to be part of the import crowd. Back then I still got my *** kicked by an LS1 car or two but truth be told. My little DSMs ran harder than any IROC I raced or previously owned while the LS1's were too expensive (new). Now days, as cheap as you can find them, I think kids are out of excuses but the tones already been set. Not to mention, and I think this truth has to be said, that quality in Camaro's has been lacking. 82-02 models are not known for it, thats for sure. Thats a huge argument for my import friends.

Now that im older I want the cars I used to love as a kid. I could care less about what people think. To me the IROC is the BEST looking Camaro body style ever made and done tastefully..... with a nice stance and wheels, you'd be hard pressed to find someone tell you different. And I have the means to build what I want now. I see an LSX IROC in my near future. Beating BRZ/WRX/370Z *** on the regular! And to me theres nothing cooler than that.. An IROC that has the drivability and power of a Gen3 SBC beating up on new models of competitors.

Sorry this turned out to be a book... Just had to throw in my truth in this matter.

 

If that's a book, I'd like the hard copy.

 

I am still stuck in the 80's.. Hell I even wore a pink tux to my prom.

 

i have a 2012 civic 4dr SI its fun to drive but im a die hard v8 fan i have a vett and a 91 camaro.import guys are mommas boy's most of the time and real insecure.prob cuz they played need for speed to much,dont they know japs make these games of course they are gonna make the imports seem fast.us v8 guys stand alone .import guys stand together thats why we dont get along.i just find 4 banger cars to be childish.

 

And where are the pictures of that??

 

 

You didn't even EXIST in the 80s...

-- Joe

 

Hey now.. Doesn't mean I can't love the 80's! I am mostly stuck into the cars and the music... DEF LEPPARD!

 

Everyone knows Van Halen's where it's at.

Also, how about the subject at hand...

 

Don't forget Winger, Ratt, and Ozzy..

 

+1 there. As for the pink tux, whatever you say Andie Walsh

 

Lol

 

Na man. I think its cool that someone likes cars when they had their own styles. Glad to see it still appreciated.