Theoretical and Street Racing Use this board to ask questions about street racing, discuss your street races, and "who would win?" questions. Keep it safe.

305 vs. 3.8?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-10-2008, 05:39 PM
  #1  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Jix01's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Yelm,WA
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1990 Pontiac Firebird
Engine: 305 5.0 TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 2.73 Open Diff.
305 vs. 3.8?

a friend has a 1996 3.8 camaro thats all stock with an automatic. i have 305 TBI all stock except for an open element... he thinks that i will smoke him easily cause i have a 305 i told him that i don't know about that lol i have drove one of the impalas with the 3.8's in it and those things are pretty fast but i didn't know if the camaros engines were the same... so who would win???
Old 06-10-2008, 06:19 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
blackandgoldl69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Elizabethtown,Ky
Posts: 428
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Car: 1984 camaro z28
Engine: L69 H.O
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.73
Re: 305 vs. 3.8?

pretty sure the 3.8 has this one
Old 06-10-2008, 06:20 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Saculia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 730
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: currently a 91 G92.
Engine: 305TPI
Transmission: Borg Warner WC 5 speed
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: 305 vs. 3.8?

If your car is in good tune, it would be a drivers race. He has a bit of an hp advantage, and you have a bit of torque advantage. You maybe a little lighter, but have taller gears. I think the 3.8l auto came with 3.08 gears in the back, and yours are 2.73 I think stock. It may be an even race, or he may be a little faster.
Old 06-10-2008, 06:46 PM
  #4  
Supreme Member

 
v10viper04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: NY sucks
Posts: 1,724
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 84' Corvette, 96' Caprice
Engine: LT1, L99
Transmission: T-56, 4L60e
Axle/Gears: 3.07 POSI, 2.93 Open
Re: 305 vs. 3.8?

Drivers race i'm gonna say.
Old 06-10-2008, 08:26 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
LMSkyliner's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Detroit
Posts: 847
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1989 Iroc-Z
Engine: 383 FFI
Transmission: TKO600
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: 305 vs. 3.8?

Im calling drivers race on this one also.



i'm really not the one to give advice, but i think you may pull on im from a dig, but he may pull on you from a roll?
Old 06-10-2008, 11:04 PM
  #6  
Supreme Member

 
ChillPhatCat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: LaFayette, NY
Posts: 1,731
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: '10 Subaru Forester
Engine: 2.5 Boxer
Transmission: 4EAT
Axle/Gears: 4.44
Re: 305 vs. 3.8?

I had a '97 RS with headers/exhaust and it would routinely trap 89.6-89.8 MPH at the strip... I never managed better than 15.6 though because of my crappy 2.3 second 60' times. They're pretty potent for what they are. I'd say the 3.8 has this race, either from a dig or on the highway... it's got good pull all the way to the 6300 RPM limiter too.


I later cammed the same car (VS cam from zzperformance) and got it dynoed... came up with 210 RWHp. I managed to pull off a 0-60 of 5.9 seconds according to HP-Tuner... Unfortunately, I never did get to take it to the strip after the cam.
Old 06-10-2008, 11:08 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Saculia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 730
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: currently a 91 G92.
Engine: 305TPI
Transmission: Borg Warner WC 5 speed
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: 305 vs. 3.8?

I suppose both cars can be made fast with the right amount of work.
Old 06-11-2008, 04:13 PM
  #8  
Member
 
billybird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: ny
Posts: 197
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 89 Formula
Engine: LB9 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.73(coming soon)
Re: 305 vs. 3.8?

Originally Posted by Saculia
I suppose both cars can be made fast with the right amount of work.


anything can be made fast with money
Old 06-12-2008, 01:44 PM
  #9  
Supreme Member

 
v10viper04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: NY sucks
Posts: 1,724
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 84' Corvette, 96' Caprice
Engine: LT1, L99
Transmission: T-56, 4L60e
Axle/Gears: 3.07 POSI, 2.93 Open
Re: 305 vs. 3.8?

Originally Posted by billybird
anything can be made fast with money
Old 06-12-2008, 02:53 PM
  #10  
Supreme Member

 
v10viper04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: NY sucks
Posts: 1,724
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 84' Corvette, 96' Caprice
Engine: LT1, L99
Transmission: T-56, 4L60e
Axle/Gears: 3.07 POSI, 2.93 Open
Re: 305 vs. 3.8?

Originally Posted by billybird
anything can be made fast with money
Old 06-12-2008, 02:54 PM
  #11  
Member
 
panzer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mishawaka, IN
Posts: 110
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1992 Camaro RS
Engine: 305 TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: limited slip
Re: 305 vs. 3.8?

Hard to say. My sisters boyfriend has a 3.8 in his mustang. Its quick but I had him off the line. Like everyone here says, Its the driver.
Old 06-12-2008, 03:17 PM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
91z 2 8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Harrisburg PA
Posts: 512
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 04 Jetta
Engine: 1.8t AWP
Transmission: 5spd
Re: 305 vs. 3.8?

the 3.8 mustang only has 195 hp depends on year, and the 3.8 camaro has 200hp so theres 5 diff there. and proly why you beat him was because of your tourqe. i beat a v6 mustang and also had one call my car ****.
Old 06-12-2008, 05:52 PM
  #13  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Saculia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 730
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: currently a 91 G92.
Engine: 305TPI
Transmission: Borg Warner WC 5 speed
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: 305 vs. 3.8?

Originally Posted by 91z 2 8
the 3.8 mustang only has 195 hp depends on year, and the 3.8 camaro has 200hp so theres 5 diff there. and proly why you beat him was because of your tourqe. i beat a v6 mustang and also had one call my car ****.
Some of the earlier 3.8L mustangs had less than that. I think that they were rated at 145 -150hp, less than the 3.4L f-bodies. They didn't improve the 3.8L engine in the mustang until about 99 or 2000. I believe the 3800 series II f-bodies with the Y87 package to be the quickest v6 fourth gens. One of those might present a problem for an LO3. They came with a manual trans, faster steering ratio, and a 3.42 posi rear end if I remember correctly. 0-60 in those cars was in the low 7 sec range.
Old 06-12-2008, 05:54 PM
  #14  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Jix01's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Yelm,WA
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1990 Pontiac Firebird
Engine: 305 5.0 TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 2.73 Open Diff.
Re: 305 vs. 3.8?

i know that i did race one of the 3.8 mustangs and i whooped its *** in my v6 firebird so those things aren't very fast...
Old 06-12-2008, 09:19 PM
  #15  
Member
 
panzer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mishawaka, IN
Posts: 110
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1992 Camaro RS
Engine: 305 TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: limited slip
Re: 305 vs. 3.8?

Well this was a 95 BUT it has a couple goodies like a cold air intake and a cherrybomb turbo muffler. It doesnt really give it much but its ok I guess. As long as he likes it, then its fine by me.
Old 06-13-2008, 12:12 AM
  #16  
Member
 
abyliks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: ludlow mass
Posts: 250
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 02 Mustang
Engine: 3.8 about to be punched out to 4.3
Transmission: 4R70W
Axle/Gears: 3.73 Detroit true trac
Re: 305 vs. 3.8?

94-98 stangs had 145 hp/215 ft.lbs and 2.73 gears, 99-00 had 190/220, 01-04 had 193/225, my 02 with intake/exhaust tune ran 15.8s consecutively but was trapping 89 mph (damned 2.4 60'), i have yet to race a 3800 with this set up but when i was stock one pulled about a car and a half on me, ford 4R70W auto sucks ***** compared to the 4l60

when my dad owned the stang and i had a 92 with 3.73s, and exhaust (granted 215k on the clock of a LO3) and the stang would pull so slightly till like 55 ish then start pulling more (3.27s it kept pulling through second gear till 75 just under the limiter, IMO its a "smart" way to race)

does his car have duals? duals = Y87 package which is Z28 drive train (3.42 posi is the biggest thing in the autos, manuals still had 3.23)

LO3s are very slow for what they are, id sell my stang if i could hunt down the guy who baught my old one
Old 06-13-2008, 12:50 AM
  #17  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Jix01's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Yelm,WA
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1990 Pontiac Firebird
Engine: 305 5.0 TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 2.73 Open Diff.
Re: 305 vs. 3.8?

i know L03's are slow but hey i love my car. power isn't everything to me and if it was id get an ls1 lol i just was wondering because a kid thought i could beat his 3.8 and i was telling him that i thought he would beat me...just wondering. but anyways yes L03s are still nice cars...better than rice.
Old 06-13-2008, 07:03 PM
  #18  
Junior Member
 
jeepboy180's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Hudson
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 92' RS 25Th Anniversary
Engine: 305ci TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt limited slip.
Re: 305 vs. 3.8?

I agree with Jix, just because I cant bang through my gears , Doesn't mean its not fun!! Its still a good american also I to think your gonna loose. my buddies mom has one and she already handed me my "butt"
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
db057
TBI
14
04-28-2019 07:45 AM
383cam
Electronics
5
09-09-2015 06:01 AM
buffaloman
Camaros Wanted
2
09-07-2015 09:46 AM
rsrookie
Camaros for Sale
0
09-05-2015 07:08 PM
Formula_88AE
Engine Swap
1
09-03-2015 01:47 PM



Quick Reply: 305 vs. 3.8?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:59 AM.