jeepboy180

My Cammy's a stock TBi 305 w/automatic.

The lancers a 5spd

91z 2 8

did you win or not race yet?

igotta355z28

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y is it all the races of camaro vs import are 305 tbi? man no wonder Ric ers think are cars are slow,....

LMSkyliner

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I had that very discussion today. Even if the 305TPI's got some action, we'd have alot better reputation, never mind the 350TPIs and various built 355s, 383s, 400s, etc.

Bullydawg

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It is because we do not need to ask questions like these... We run what we have. Seems like if you have a 305 then you aren't very confident. Race and see what happens.

LMSkyliner

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truth. I can't wait to get a LS1 into my baby



anyways, although i think the Evo has more power than the Ralliart cause the Ralliart is built for handling, I still think youre going to get owned


edit: btw, nice edit. Much more tasteful post now

campin1983

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I own an 04 ralliart (4 speed auto) as my DD, and have a 1991 305 TBI Firebird. I was letting my little bro drive the ralliart yesterday and I gunned it off the line when we pulled even at a stop sign. The Ralliart dusted it without a problem, and he claimed he didn't give the car full throttle either.

The motors put out almost identical HP numbers, but the Mitsu has hundreds of pounds less on the Firebird. If the driver of the 5 speed ralliart can shift at all, you'll be pretty embarrassed.

(By the way, I only raced that Ralliart because it was my own car, giving noone else bragging rights, and because I want to have a benchmark for when I drop a 350 underhood, which will hopefully be a project my bro and I can work on)
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The Evo is significantly better than the Ralliart in every way. The Ralliart is the most trimmed out version of the base lancer, with a slightly better motor, suspension, etc etc. The Evo is built on a very different frame, puts out nearly double the HP and could out handle the Ralliart. Compare the ralliart to a Civic SI or a Mazda Speed 3. The Evo is a street legal rally race car. Also, the Evo is AWD and the Ralliart is FWD. (all of this applies to pre-2008 cars)

LMSkyliner

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Ah. See i had read an article on the 2008 Lancer Ralliart, and i had assumed it had always been like that and i had just missed somthing. My fault

igotta355z28

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Yeah ive noticed that....Funny thing is that I was in a parking lot about a week ago and this Ric ed out CRX pulled in reving up and I (being the *** that I am) yelled and told him to shut that **** up and proceeded to give him my opinion of Hondas and his beat up CRX in particualar... he got out with some buddies and came over talking crap and asked "what i drove" (i was there with my gf in her altima coupe) and i said a 99 v6 camaro and that my "toy" was a 89 IROC and he just looked at me and went oh... and turned and walked away not saying another word...so i guess Camaros still can put fear in the hearts of RiceBur ners....

jeepboy180

the cars not a turbo, its like a nicer version of the OZ rally. its just a theoretical question. And as far as I concerned, I've owned 6cylinders that would kill my turd. SO dont think its some dumb kid asking questions. I do have have plans for it but in due time.

Now as for my personal opinion I, dunno I think ill get him off the line but he's gonna come back on me in the end. The lancer is a stick but it shitty off the line. It just bakes 1st gear. But I bought my car with a bad tranny so I havent even gotten to play with it. But it gets rebuilt monday, so Ill let you know how it turns out. I know I dont have a tire fryer, but I think he's got me like I said.

campin1983

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You are definitly right about 1st gear on the lancers, they suck despite having high torque numbers for a 4 banger. Although if he launches it, it may make up for the stupid tranny.

The Lancer RalliArt has a Mivec which is a copy of the VTec. Long story short, its a dog till about 2,400 rpm's, then it wakes up. If the driver stays on the gas, it'll never drop below that in the rest of the gears.

Honestly, the Ralliart is a fairly respectable car. I love mine. No, its not a racer, and for that matter a healthy TPI should smoke it off the line. But as a fuel efficient daily driver that isn't Prius style slow, its pretty nice. Torque and HP are even at around 165 a piece, which seems to be ultra rare in a 4 banger.

I'd say put some exhaust on your car, wake up the air intake and get it closer to 200 hp or so, and then you shouldn't have a problem

(Disclaimer: I am not a *****. My Ralliart is bone stock, except the heated leather seats, and I use it as a nice 4 door daily driver that serves my everday needs without costing a fortune. No I don't race it, no I don't want to, and I want to smack every high rise spoiler and fart can owner upside the head too. Its because of having a cheap reliable DD that I can work on an F body which is a fun car, rather than simply a convenient one.)

Bullydawg

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Yeah, I didn't want to seem like an *** so I edited it. I am glad you like my edit. I wouldn't mind an Ls1, but with what I have now, The swap would put me at about the same 1/4 mile times, possible even worse. So Ill stick to my Super Ram and Aluminum heads...

Now If it was stock...It would be an Ls1 for sure.

For the race...I would get some nitrous and spray it until it blows then drop in a 350. I have been wanting to get a 305 and see what I can get it to go on spray. Then drop in a 350 when it blows. Nitrous is the great equilizer.

jeepboy180

SO ya guys, Well my car went in the shop today for the tranny. But I did manage to get my 2 friends together for a "Run". It was the lancer and a friends 5.0 mustang. They raced from a stop to 70. The lancer got him 4 times off the line,then walked away!!!!!!!

It even stayed even from a 20 roll. then slowly pulled from the mustang again!!!!!. We were all shocked!!!! And Donny was pissed. but ya just thought Id let you know!!!! Im tryin to get video But Donnys a sissy Bi7Ch and wont let me post it.

jeepboy180

well I we just got home and I ran my STOCK RS 305 against my buddies ralliart lancer. we went 1st to 70. I lost by a car and a fender. I got him off the line but once he got 2nd to hook, he came back passed me.

Later Im running my buddies 92 Stang GT 302, headers, 4bbl 600cfm, 3:73's and a 5spd. But Ill have video to post on that one I PROMISE!!