92fireformula

My friend in a vw 1.8 turbo (not sure of year, but newer) 5 spd. says it will beat my 92 formula 305 5spd. with flowmaster exhaust, and a newer clutch. What would the outcome be?

Always2Slow

He can push 300 plus out of the motor if he knows what hes doing. You will get beat because his car is lighter assuming he can drive a stick good.

92fireformula

I went for a ride in it today and it seemed quick but not fast. I know I can get a jump on him from a dig but getting into higher speeds he will pull on me. It felt close to what my can do

fly89gta

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Who said anything about the VW being modded?

If both of you guys can drive it should be a good race. If you can launch well you should take him.

88L035speed

i pulled out of a local weekend race spot and im next to a 1.8t jetta with a front mout intercooler on it, i did a first gear pull with him and i had him bad so im thinkin you should get him.

freestylzz

You.

fly89gta

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If he was modded he would've probably taken you up top.

88L035speed

i am unsure, when i went to the drag strip i seen 1.8ts running 15-16's

fly89gta

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they're usually 15 second cars stock...this one was modded.

mike_c

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1.8T's are pretty gutless. Take him from a dig and you should put enough distance on him to compensate for his top end speed. Of course, this is assuming you go long enough for him to even get into his top end. You should have this no problem.

vwdave

Stock, sure. I can get them to 220whp without touching the turbo and 300whp without taking the head off. Mind you this is reliably. Ive walked 1 or 2 thirdgens HARD with my 1.8t. Granted, I walked a bolton GTI with my L98.

And just because he has a front mount, doesnt mean he has anything else. Ive had a few putz'es(is that a word) come into my shop with a front mount and nothing else done.

atc3434

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You never know what your getting into with one of those 1.8T's. It doesn't take a lot more than a tune, intercooler and exhaust to find 300 crank horsepower, which would beat an L98. Any Fbody should be able to get a holeshot on one, but don't count on stay in front for long if your relatively stock and he's built.

For comparison, my modded LG4 run pretty good with my cousin's Audi TT, which is a 225hp variant of the 1.8T, I put both the car's at about a 14.6.

25thmustang

Stock they are nothing to write home about, but pull alright through the RPM. Modded they have good potential. Simple stuff and you have an easy 14 or even 13 second car. My friends 20th ann. GTI with FM, diverter valve, CAI, KO4, turbo back and a tune runs pretty hard. Probably a middle to lower 13s car if you can get it out of the hole and into second without destroying the tires.

atc3434

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There in lies the key. All the front wheel horsepower in the world doesn't do much good when it can't be put down, and it frequently can't. I've seen plenty of cars at the strip run 13 second passes at 120+mph.

25thmustang

I have driven it, a good driver can and will get the power down. A 13 second at 120 car sucks from a light, but from some mph will be a whole new ball game!

vwdave

Not quite....Roughly 250-260 crank is the most you can possibly get with the stock turbo. They are extremely small.

atc3434

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Must be I'm basing my info of the Audi TT (the 225hp 1.8T version), I'm not sure what the difference is, but there is documentation of guys getting right about 300 crank horsepower on that model of the TT. Maybe its a different turbo, or there are more difference between the two motors than I know.

vwdave

The 225 TT has a different turbo. K04-20 I think. You can hit 300 crank, but youre beating the hell out of it to do it.

atc3434

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From what I've read/heard the TT motor has a lot of forged components, and is pretty well suited for upping the boost, increasing the breathing, and making some pretty respectable power, especially given the displacement. I know my cousin's nearly stock TT is every bit as fast as my 5 liters, and he's only got 1.8. Althought, my 5 liters on 8psi would be a totally different story.

vwdave

The only real difference is the size of the wristpins. Its sorta a moot point because the rods are the same and those bend like clockwork at 325whp.