86 Iroc-Z vs 96 LT1
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86 Iroc-Z vs 96 LT1
Hey everyone, I have a friend that has a basically stock 96 Camaro Z28, LT1, 6 speed with a catback exhaust and I was wondering, how my car would fair against his, mods are in the sig, thanks.
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Re: 86 Iroc-Z vs 96 LT1
96 was a good year for the LT1 cars, I think you may run with him for the first half of the track but he'll probably track you down. There's alot of variables thrown into this, can he drive? How well does your combo run, have you had it at the track? He should be fully capable of flat 14's all the way to mid 13's depending on how well his car's in tune and how well he can drive it.
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Re: 86 Iroc-Z vs 96 LT1
No, I haven't been to the track to see how my car would run, thats what I like to know really, the nearest track to me is only the 1/8 mile, but he is a decent driver far as I know being that he a little older than me, and his LT1 run strong, but I'm just wondering.
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Re: 86 Iroc-Z vs 96 LT1
wil this race be on the track or the street? if on the street u stand a decent chance..go from a 20 mph roll, ounce you have a 1/2 car on him let off the gas.. u win.. at least thats how i race lt1's always take em till they wind out there 3rd gear. then there gone.
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Re: 86 Iroc-Z vs 96 LT1
Don't know about your car, but by L98 with bolt-on's could hold LT1's back until higher speeds(90ish) then they'd start creeping by me.
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Re: 86 Iroc-Z vs 96 LT1
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Re: 86 Iroc-Z vs 96 LT1
i depends how healthy (or tired) that lb9 is? i know how mine runs with 42k on it. ive also been in some with 142k and it's a different story.
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Re: 86 Iroc-Z vs 96 LT1
my LB9 is at around the 38K odometer mark now. but from what others that have much more experience than me say that it runs pretty strong,
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Re: 86 Iroc-Z vs 96 LT1
I'd say it would be a decent race. Stock M6 LT1s trap around 102-103 it seems, if they're a good shifter that is and know what points to shift at.
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Re: 86 Iroc-Z vs 96 LT1
with speed traps around 102 - 103 from M6 LT1s, would that be around high 13s or low 14s ?
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Re: 86 Iroc-Z vs 96 LT1
Depends on the launch. With a decent 60 foot high 13s are easily attainable, however most people can't get a decent 60 with these things on street tires so you see alot of low 14s. With a good set of tires these cars will run 13.5s if the drivers can drive.
I got mine to 12.9s with the power mods being headers/cai/tune only.
I got mine to 12.9s with the power mods being headers/cai/tune only.
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Re: 86 Iroc-Z vs 96 LT1
was your Et off of street tires and do you remember your 60 foot that got you a 12.9?
also do you think with my setup I have, I wouldn't be too far off from a stock to slighty modded M6 LT1?
also do you think with my setup I have, I wouldn't be too far off from a stock to slighty modded M6 LT1?
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Re: 86 Iroc-Z vs 96 LT1
I think with your setup you could ET well if you've got tires. Are you tuned at all? I think the problem you're going to run into is that cam is going to want some RPM, I could see a shift point of about 6100ish, your TPI isn't going to want to flow at those RPMs and that's when he's going to give you a run.
If you were running a carb and maybe some steeper gears I'd give it to you for sure, but that TPI is going to be your weak point in my opinion. LT1 intakes have no problems pulling that high.
None the less, go from a dig. His M6 will give him the disadvantage there and your A4 will help you out, along with the low end of the TPI. The faster you guys go the closer he'll get though. On the highway from a roll it'll be even if he doesn't pass you, assuming he can bang gears.
As for where you would run, I think with good tires you could knock down high 13s without too much problem. I've seen plenty of novice M6 drivers knocking down 97mph traps in LT1 Fbods, myself included Give him a run, see what happens. But like I say, from a dig is your best chance.
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Re: 86 Iroc-Z vs 96 LT1
Thanks alot man, really appericate it, yeah I know the disadvantage would be the TPI and I'm going to more than likely switch to an LT1 or LS1 in the future but I just want to have alittle fun with the LB9 until I decide.
and like I said earlier he seems to be a decent driver being that hes alittle older than me, and he car runs strong for a stock M6 LT1, not sure what he would trap exactly, I'm guessing hes aleast in the high 13s, but I'm not sure, but like you said earlier, the longer the race is the more likely he'll pull on me as we get into the upper RPMs.
and also I'm going to recheck my car and make sure its tuned right, and with good tires I hope my car would be capable for a high 13s like you said or close with his LT1, but its all in good fun thanks for the help
and like I said earlier he seems to be a decent driver being that hes alittle older than me, and he car runs strong for a stock M6 LT1, not sure what he would trap exactly, I'm guessing hes aleast in the high 13s, but I'm not sure, but like you said earlier, the longer the race is the more likely he'll pull on me as we get into the upper RPMs.
and also I'm going to recheck my car and make sure its tuned right, and with good tires I hope my car would be capable for a high 13s like you said or close with his LT1, but its all in good fun thanks for the help
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Re: 86 Iroc-Z vs 96 LT1
You can actually get an LT1 intake modified for a Gen 1 engine, www.lt1intake.com, as well as a bunch of other people. Or get a Holley Stealth Ram
Good luck!
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Re: 86 Iroc-Z vs 96 LT1
Mine bone stock 96 WS6 ran 13.50 on a 2.0 short time back in 96. It was the only time it was run completely stock. Next time out in early 97, mods were K&N, 160 t-stat, HPP+, and 4.10 gears, it ran 13.18 on a 1.87 short time. Still on the original GSC's. Much, much easier to launch with the gears. Thing would just take off. Used more of 4th gear as stock 3.42's had to shift into 4th about 100' before the traps.
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