fire350tpi

Kid is trying to say his car is wicked fast, and i believe its quick but.. is it quick enough to totally destroy my car?

87 formula 350 with a 5 speed swapped in

and a DSM with 14 psi He could run 16 but hes only doing 14

he said hed give me 3 car lengths

what do u guys think

brodyscamaro

There's no details in here, but Imma guess he'll get you...

rocluvr0013

need a lil more info on the dsm

Is it awd?

If you can drive you should have a low 14 second car.

nelapse

iTrader: (17)

I used to own a DSM. If it is AWD he will murder you. DSM AWD can easily do 12's with very very minor modifications. The 4g63 Motor is very stout and handles alot of abuse. It is the same motor in the Evo's today.

If it is FWD, you will still get whooped, unless he does give you 3 lengths and then you could win.

fire350tpi

o its AWD, thing is i dont want to get completly destroyed.. lol But i willl probly


o well its all in good fun :S

86camarokid

well if he's running 14 psi he's deff not stock,i'm pretty sure they only run like 9-10 pounds stock.so then that also would lead me to believe he might have a different turbo, injectors, boost controller and other go fast goodies so if i were you, i'd pass on the race...

tgould_316

I've owned 2 DSMs..both AWD. The stock boost setting is like 10 psi, 11 to 12 with free mods. They can be made fast for little money. If he has a boost controller and exhaust, I think he will take you. If you guys go from a stop, and you get a good launch and he bogs( easy to do in a AWD car if not launched at the right RPM and clutch slipped correctly) then it will be close. Be very careful with 1st gen DSMs as most are not stock anymore.

90CamaroTBI

Ok well since my buddy has not posted yet, I will do it for him. He had a l98 iroc with headers, exhaust, free mods, and some small things done to it. I raced his car versus a FWD talon with a built engine running 20 psi of boost. He even had his laptop on the seat. I beat him from a stop and from a rool by as much as 2 cars or more.

Street Lethal

iTrader: (16)

If only the same could be said about their transmission's....

86camarokid

yea but your missing the thing, the one that wants to race is AWD... the car your buddy raced was FWD which means he was prolly spinning every time he started to make any type of boost.. plus you don't need a built motor to run 20psi threw one of those motors, actually just met a guy Friday night at the drags running 24psi threw his 96 eclipse with a stock bottom end... crazy little motors

rescuesigns21

Ok, just thought I'd put in my 2 cents. The 1g dsm can run 16 psi safely with only a boost controller and gauge. In theory he should beat you. I'm not saying he will though. Those motors have to be tuned to a T. So unless he has slips from the drag strip there is not telling what that car is running. He's going to jump you off the line. Be patient and use the top end to your advantage.

P.S. I had a 91 eclipse turbo, ask the guy if he needs parts, lol.

fire350tpi

lol, Top end and TPI? What? lol


if your in the MA area i could ask, word is he is swapping a motor in at this time to u never know what he could use

90CamaroTBI

Yeah it was FWD but his motor was built because we watched the buildup on the internals.

two60two

I've seen 20, actually I've ridden in a 2g that was pushing 20 pounds. They run 16-17 because that is where the stock turbo becomes inefficient, though if it were me i wouldnt push more then that stock. I believe 1gs are built better then 2gs as well, but that may just be me.

fastfbody

iTrader: (4)

the old dsm awd cars where crazy you can take the newer turbo manifold put it on then they run down newer evos.buddy of mine works at a mitsubishi dealership and has a older gsx (same thing as a dsm) stock evos cant touch his car with there turbo manifold on his gsx.your in for a wourld of hurt. get some good heads a cam and a exhaust then race also for the love god get some drs\slicks.

two60two

GSX= all wheel drive turbo
GST= front wheel drive turbo
GS = front wheel drive NA version of the 4g63
RS = Neon motor

DSM = Diamond Star Motors which would just be a mitsubishi product