TPI Camaro vs. L98 Corvette vs. 4.6L Mustang...all modded (who'd win??)
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Car: 1990 vette
Engine: L98
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TPI Camaro vs. L98 Corvette vs. 4.6L Mustang...all modded (who'd win??)
Well, going to Maple Grove this spring, and me and some buddies have some money down on a few 1/4 mile races. I was wondering who'd win, and what order.
What I got:
-1990 Corvette L98
-350 bored .040 over (stock CR)
-6-speed
-4.11 gears (I know, but they're fun on the street)
-aluminim 113 D-port heads
-1.6 full roller rockers (with LT4 valvesprings)
-Hooker long tube headers
-No precats
-Flowmaster 40 series mufflers
-siamesed/lightly ported stock base
-K&N filter
-AFPR
-Custom tune by PCMforless.com
What they have:
1.)
-1990 Camaro 350 TPI
-5 speed
-Roller rockers (1.5)
-True dual exhaust (H-pipe)
-Edelbrock manifold and runners
2.)
-2001 Mustang GT
-5 speed
-high flow fuel pump and 42# injectors (for a future supercharger)
-PI intake
-3.73 gears
-Roush side exhaust
-Headers (unsure as to brand)
-K&N intake
-50hp nitrous shot (Sneeky Pete system: I've seen it, I don't know if he'll use it since it's only good for a run or two)
So, dead stop, to a 1/4 mile, who'd win? I'm hoping, and betting, it's me. All of us are using street tires, and shift and reaction times are nearly equal.
What I got:
-1990 Corvette L98
-350 bored .040 over (stock CR)
-6-speed
-4.11 gears (I know, but they're fun on the street)
-aluminim 113 D-port heads
-1.6 full roller rockers (with LT4 valvesprings)
-Hooker long tube headers
-No precats
-Flowmaster 40 series mufflers
-siamesed/lightly ported stock base
-K&N filter
-AFPR
-Custom tune by PCMforless.com
What they have:
1.)
-1990 Camaro 350 TPI
-5 speed
-Roller rockers (1.5)
-True dual exhaust (H-pipe)
-Edelbrock manifold and runners
2.)
-2001 Mustang GT
-5 speed
-high flow fuel pump and 42# injectors (for a future supercharger)
-PI intake
-3.73 gears
-Roush side exhaust
-Headers (unsure as to brand)
-K&N intake
-50hp nitrous shot (Sneeky Pete system: I've seen it, I don't know if he'll use it since it's only good for a run or two)
So, dead stop, to a 1/4 mile, who'd win? I'm hoping, and betting, it's me. All of us are using street tires, and shift and reaction times are nearly equal.
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Car: 2006 Corvette
Engine: LS2
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42s
my old 89' Vette went 13.16 at 104.79mph... but your car has headers, gears, rockers, and a 6speed over what i had. if you can drive, your car should be an easy mid 12 sec Vette. if i were you tho, id get some sorta drag radial cause with the TPIs torque + 4.11 gears your gonna be fighting for traction off the line
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Car: 1991 L03 700r4 RS
Engine: 1987 WS6 Trans AM Lb2
Transmission: Th350 red neck Performance 3k stall
Axle/Gears: 95 Mustang 8.8 built with 3.73s
Good move on siamesing the intake, you've got this covered by a long shot. The only thing that could be limiting you is that genero tune, hopefully they got it close. As for 4.11's being to much; they are until you throw a siamesed base into the mix to even things up a bit. Oh btw you never mentioned who has what for tires? You should definetly look into some ET Streets or straight up slicks.
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Car: 1990 vette
Engine: L98
Transmission: ZF6
I'm running Goodyear street tires...forget the exact model. They're about the same....all Z rated.
The tune isn't really generic...they tuned it after I sent in my data sheeet of the table values from my laptop program.
The tune isn't really generic...they tuned it after I sent in my data sheeet of the table values from my laptop program.
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Car: 1986 Camaro Berlinetta
Engine: 4 bolt 355ci
Transmission: Borg Warner T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.73 Posi Disc Rear
Sounds like you got it in the bag, but everyone is right, get some stickies or Drag Radials.
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Car: 1985 Z28
Engine: 85 L98
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: stock 10 bolt-3.73 eaten posi
if you get traction and can shift fast. that thing should be fun on the steet. you pro go though gears like a crotch rocket.
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Car: 87 Monte Carlo ss
Engine: ZZ4 1.5 rollers 650DP
Transmission: Probuilt 700-R4
Axle/Gears: 8.5 GN 3.42
I would go with the vette but the mustang would not be to far behind with a 50 shot. My brother is running 13.5 with his 90 L98, 700r4, vette with similar mods.The vette could run low 13s and the camaro would run high 13s.The mustang and camaro are probalby a decent match before the spray.4.11's are nothing in a 6 speed!!! Runs like 3.23's in a 700r4. Very common mod for t-56.
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Car: 1989 Camaro RS
Engine: Modified 350 TPI
Transmission: Modified 700 R4
Axle/Gears: Posi 3.42
better watch the stang though. I've got a 2006 Mustang GT and while my 89 Camaro TPI 350 jumps it off the line, up top it catches me..
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Car: Mustang
Engine: Bolt Ons
Transmission: Stock
Axle/Gears: 3.73
Headers, gears, filter and a catback on a newer car is a higher 13s car. The injectors are hurting it a TON. Instead of getting a nice solid injector pulse, those injectors are flowing so little of their potential they are actually merely spitting fuel into the chamber. Trust me, 24s are too big on a stock motor, these injectors are running at such a low duty cycle hes probably losing anything the other mods helped with.
Ad a 50 shot to that, mid 13s at best!
Ad a 50 shot to that, mid 13s at best!
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Car: 1990 vette
Engine: L98
Transmission: ZF6
So general consensious is I should win. Good! I need some college money.
It's a test and tune/grudge racing day....so I'll se what I can coax out of her.
It's a test and tune/grudge racing day....so I'll se what I can coax out of her.
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Car: '89 Formula WS6 N10 No T-Tops
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Car: 1987 Iroc Z28
Engine: The KING of the 3rd gen TPI's.
Transmission: Beefed up T5
Axle/Gears: Aussie 3.45's
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Then the Mustang (if he can drive and get a good launch), otherwise it should be pretty close b/n the stang and the camaro.
Then the Mustang (if he can drive and get a good launch), otherwise it should be pretty close b/n the stang and the camaro.
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Car: 85 IROC Z
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: TCI TH350 TCI 2400 STALL
Axle/Gears: 3.42 WORN OUT POSI
I think you should have the win. By the way in response to zz4monte about the 4.11's being a common T-56 mod, isn't his the ZF 6 speed? I'm not sure but I think it is, and it probobly dosen't make much difference.
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Car: 87 Monte Carlo ss
Engine: ZZ4 1.5 rollers 650DP
Transmission: Probuilt 700-R4
Axle/Gears: 8.5 GN 3.42
It probalby is a ZF but either way 4.11s just don't effect your cruise speed with a 6 speed like they do to a 700r4.
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Car: 1990 vette
Engine: L98
Transmission: ZF6
Yes, the ZF-6 is a 6-speed. I cruise 85 at around 1900RPMS
Looks like I will be buying new tires for the 'vette, since it needs fronts, i'll go all the way around. Goodyear F1 GS-D3's
Looks like I will be buying new tires for the 'vette, since it needs fronts, i'll go all the way around. Goodyear F1 GS-D3's
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Car: 91 z28
Engine: 383 sbc, 88mm turbo a2w IC, CSU 750
Transmission: th-400 PTC 4000 stall
Axle/Gears: ford 9" 3.55 gear
those are soom pretty expensive tires you're going with, I personally would go with some NT-555's (street tires not drag radials) to save soem money, they are equal in performance and usually about $30 per tire cheaper (assuming you still have the 16" rims) you could go with the nt-555r DR's for the rear but you'd probably get about 10k miles out of them with normal driving and the ocassional agressive driving
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Car: 87 Camaro LS
Engine: LG4
Transmission: T-5 World Class
Axle/Gears: 3.08 Open baby!!
You should win..
but watch the Mustang...I think it will start pulling on you at the end....
just my .02..Good luck
but watch the Mustang...I think it will start pulling on you at the end....
just my .02..Good luck
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Car: 1990 vette
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those are soom pretty expensive tires you're going with, I personally would go with some NT-555's (street tires not drag radials) to save soem money, they are equal in performance and usually about $30 per tire cheaper (assuming you still have the 16" rims) you could go with the nt-555r DR's for the rear but you'd probably get about 10k miles out of them with normal driving and the ocassional agressive driving
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