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'91 Skyline w/R32 motor, single turbo - should I hit it?

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Old 09-16-2006, 07:59 PM
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'91 Skyline w/R32 motor, single turbo - should I hit it?

Hey guys.. buddy at work showed up with his newly acquired vehicle last night. Pretty nice looking car actually; '91 skyline with a gtr bodykit, new paint, full hks adjustable suspension, nismo rims, downpipe, exhaust, turbo timer, etc etc etc. 54,000kms on the clock all for $15,000 cdn.

He took me for a ride, and after getting warmed up, layed on the go pedal... layed down some rubber in 3rd gear while cruising around 80km/h and promptly accelerated to 200+km/h. Car has a steady pull, not like the torque I'm accustomed to with a domestic.

It seems fast, but not that fast. Actually it seems kinda slow from a stop, or a roll if your in the wrong rpm range before the turbo spools up. What I absolutly love about that car is the handling and the brakes. Twisting the wheel as hard as you can either way or back and forth at 60 or 70km/h and the car instantly responds without body roll or anything. Hammering on the brakes and the car stops, now. Very perdictable with handling and braking. I can only dream that my IROC could do that, however I don't think its possible, no matter what I do to it. Its also several hundred pounds under my IROC.

So... now he wants to race. I think I can take him from a dig and mabey, just mabey, get lucky and be able to hold him off for a 1/4 mile. After that I know I'm toast. I know my car goes fast, however, the speedometer doesn't climb at a steady rate, it slows off around 140 or 150 km/h and accelerates slowly upto and past 200km/h. The skyline seems to have a steady and constant pull once you hit the turbo and still constant well into the 180's (as fast as we went in his car).

My trap speed at a 1/4 mile should be somewhere around 105-6mph (165-170km/h) and perhaps as fast as 13.5 according to several other guys with similar mods on this board. The skyline guy says his trap speed should be somewhere around 180-190km/h and he feels his car is capable of a high 12 sec.

The benefits for me is he has only had this car for a week now, it is right hand drive, and he still absolutly sucks when banging out the gears with his left hand (I was driving and going through the gears better.. yes I got to drive it, nice guy!)

So what are my chances? He wants to go out to the track perhaps as early as next weekend, which will be a first time for both of us ever at a track. If we're going to do it, we're going to do it right and do it on the track. Will I just be able so squeeze one out, or am I going to be laughed at?

Anyone else lined up with a skyline?
Old 09-17-2006, 01:34 AM
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You say it's a single turbo so I'm assuming it's a GTS-T and not the GT-R. His only real power mods are the downpipe and exhaust (and maybe a little more boost?)...I think you guys could have a close race. GTS-Ts have the 2.0 liter inline 6 and RWD.

I believe the GTS-Ts were low 14 sec cars stock. With those mods, a little more boost and a good driver it's possible to hit low 13s. I doubt high 12s unless he can hook really good and can drive well (which sounds like he cannot). Like all turbo cars it's really easy for him to get an edge on you by turning up the boost. When I was stationed in Japan I had friends that bought GTS-Ts. My experience with driving their GTS-Ts with a few bolt-on mods is comparable to a bone stock LS1, at least on the butt dyno.

But if he truely does have a modded GT-R...well then disregard everything I just said because you will most likely lose, lol.
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yea its just a gtr body kit, not a true gtr. rear wheel drive '91 coupe with a R32 engine which is a 2.5 litre inline 6, single turbo... says hes got his 'turbo timer' turned down to 5 psi. there is a handful of mods but they're mostly suspension orientated, not performance wise.

the only performance mods I can see or he's told me about are; cold air intake, downpipe, exhaust (cat back only I believe), and turbo timer (is this a performance mod?)

like I said it is a pretty damn quick car, just slow out of the hole (or burning rubber and not hooking up)
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ummm i think he might be mistaking a turbo timer for a boost controller...
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FYI, R32 refers to only the body style and not the motor. IIRC the R32 body style was from 89-92.

The previous owner must have swapped in a RB25DET (2.5L single turbo) motor from a later model R33. The RB25DET was not offered in the R32 line. But they did have an N/A version of the 2.5 called the RB25DE that was an option for the R32.

A turbo timer is not a performance item. All it does is keeps the motor running after you shut off the key to circulate oil through the turbo to keep the turbo cool and extend its life. Unless he meant an electronic boost controller then it would be a different story.
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ok sorry guys, either I heard incorrectly or the guy doesn't know what hes talking about.. but he was saying his car was stock (with a 2.0L?) and it was upgraded with a newer 2.5L single turbo. I think it was an R33 engine.. **** I can't remember. I do recall it is a 2.5L single turbo.

also I have no clue about what a turbo timer is, but IROCZZ3 is correct, his car runs for a few minutes after you turn it off.. but he also has a dial/screen stuck on his dash which measures performance (0-60mph times, 1/4 mile times, etc) and apparently with the dial he can change/alter his boost for when it is applied. Again I'm not certain, but I think he can also adjust the amount of boost with it too?
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I still say it'll be close, more of a driver's race. Sounds like you have a strong running 305 so it's hard to say. Well unless he turns up the boost then it might work in his favor. Speaking of boost 5 psi is nothing for those cars so why he has "set" there I have no clue. Please post up the results of the outcome...it's not everyday you get to line up with a Skyline.
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