Manic Z

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Hey everyone.

This guy down my street wants to race my car.
More than likely at the track.

He says it's a stock saleen, but I didn't ask the year. 87-93 body style though. It's a convertible too.

Mine's a 355 q-jet. Magnum 280H cam, RPM heads, stealth intake, headers, and flowmaster catback, gutted cat, dual snorkel air cleaner.

Any thoughts?

vipershark11

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well i dont know about the older saleens but i know my cousin had a 01 and his was a supercharged 4.6 5 speed with an exhaust from saleen. i also know they make turbo ones too. so i dunno

25thmustang

Saleen does not make a turbo one... and if your talking about the twin turbo Silver one thats on the pike a lot... thats my friend Todds car. He added the TT kit to the car. He also owns a rare 1 of 2 S351 Saleen, and a stock SCed Saleen for a daily driver.

As far as the older ones its a little too vague. My friend Dave has a stock 86 Saleen with exhaust that runs in the mid 14s (not SCed). There were SCed and NA ones in the fox body years which really makes or breaks whether you would win or not. My guess is its NA and you should take it!

vipershark11

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yea i was iffy about the turbo i just have seen multiple saleens that are turbo and yes ive seen the one on the pike too. but i did get the drive a regular s/ced one man was it fun

freestylzz

I remember it was a trend / fad for Mushtang owners to make their run-of-the-mill shoebox fox's "look" like real Saleen's with those hideous Saleen aftermarket ground effects packages that were everywhere back in the day. Then, slap on a "Saleen" sticker to the windshield and you're good to go nowhere fast lol.

If it's a stock "real" Saleen, run him and burn his a*s

urbanhunter44

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If it's a real N/A saleen, go own him. If its stock SC it'll be closer. assuming you have long tubes and the car is properly tuned you probably have near 350 rwhp, probably more.

Chances are it's a clone. I see them ALL the time here.

hihighost

1 of 2??? Whats the value on that baby worth...

Manic Z

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It may indeed be a SC version, if that was the sound I heard driving by him. Wasn't 100% sure, as the both our exhausts were fairly loud. I should go ask him.

25thmustang

It is 1 of 2 Red/Black S351 verts, and he also believes the other one might be a non SCed version, which could make it a 1 of 1. Either way the car has a few things done, puts down mid 500 rwhp and, I believe he paid slightly under $40K for it. Been in the car and it is definately a nice car!

Also I love the Saleen body kit. Its more subtle than the GT one and the Cobra one, and I personally think it looks good. There are a lot of clones out there, but the Saleens without the blowers back then (and even now) arent much different than the stock GTs, and LXs (back in the fox years).

vipershark11

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yea i see plenty of clones in CT here. also the ground effects the put on the cars are kickass and make them look mean. also the exhaust has an even nicer note then the normal GTs.

2QUIK4U

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thats the one thing i envy about stangs.. They have a sweet exhaust tone. It is one of a kind.. How do they do it? I can hear a mustang and identify it without even seeing it.. Even when they are slow they still sound bad a$$!

urbanhunter44

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its just dual exhaust is all. put dual exhaust with an H on your fbody and it'll pick up the hollow tone.

vipershark11

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only things ford was good at doing was the exhaust note on mustangs and putting yamaha motors in taurus' otherwise ford is so good they circled their own problem on their emblem

stu

Don't forget that they still have a sports car on the market because people actually wanted to buy them...

F&Ybodlover

I think the Saleen Fox, was/is a great looking car, I loved this black 93 back in 93, and almost got an LX vert and the body kit, and stripes etc. However, I instead got my first vette, and never regretted it.

87TPI350KID

Didn't the very first Saleens get only basic stuff like rims, gfx, interior trim, ehxuast intake etc.

I know the newer ones are pretty scary, bout the same as a cobra or roush stage 3. Didn't they even make a S/C 3.8 in the mid 90s?

urbanhunter44

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It could be argued that either:

A. You're right and no one wanted to buy them, so GM did a marketing ploy (discontinuing them) that made people want them again - thus saving the line for the year '09.

or,

B. The lack of sales could be based on GM's lack of advertising (nothing.. at all) for the last 4 years of production, in order to get the count low enough that they could legally get out of the contract that bound them to a union held factory.

The reason the mustang is still around is simply politics if you look at it closely enough.
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Saleens without the super charger are pretty much a VERY expensive body kit and some suspension.

I don't know if this holds true with foxes or not, but on the later models it's easy to tell a fake from a real one. In the driver's side headlight pocket you'll see a serial number.

InsaneIROC

Every Saleen Mustang has a production number on the drivers side bumper and on the passenger side read bumper if it dosent have one its not a real Saleen .

25thmustang

Yeah, they did... But hey I have never had an issue with going fast (easily I might add) not breaking down, getting good gas mileage, etc... Cant really complain about my 5.0, other than how long its taking me to get it painted (doing it myself).

freestylzz

And to think, just rip off that big a*s spoiler on the trunk lid and you've got an instant snow shovel for the wintertime.

La la la laaa....

lol

25thmustang

Funny you mention that, I know of a guy who had a Saleen wing on his car and ran at the track. Car went mid 12s @ 111. Took the wing off and ran with a stocker and went lower 12s @ 114. This was the same day as well. Car gained 3 mph by losing that wing. Scary to think about, but makes me glad Im not a huge fan of it!

urbanhunter44

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LOL i've always figured that huge (awful) wing had to be doing something detrimental, that's hilarious.

Manic Z

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LOL. That picture looks identical to the guy's car. Only difference is he put Cobra rims on his.

freestylzz

[QUOTE=25thmustang]Funny you mention that, ... Car gained 3 mph by losing that wing. QUOTE]

verate

[quote=urbanhunter44]It could be argued that either:

A. You're right and no one wanted to buy them, so GM did a marketing ploy (discontinuing them) that made people want them again - thus saving the line for the year '09.

or,

B. The lack of sales could be based on GM's lack of advertising (nothing.. at all) for the last 4 years of production, in order to get the count low enough that they could legally get out of the contract that bound them to a union held factory.

The reason the mustang is still around is simply politics if you look at it closely enough.
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you forgot
c. American car companies are failing due to the manufactoring process and billions of overhead vs for example toyota (yes i hate them as much as anyone ese) uses a lean manufactioring process and thats why they can sell thier product so much cheaper

stu

[QUOTE=verate]1)Toyotas aren't cheap, comparable models are MORE than something domestic.

2)If everyone hated them as much as you, then Toyota wouldn't be ready to be the largest car manufacturer in the world.

25thmustang

I like Toyota...

The older ones and even newer had indestructable motors. I even have enjoyed the styling of them for a long time. You shouldnt be knocking the foreign companies, you should be knocking the American ones... they know what they have to do to make money, so do it!

87TPI350KID

I have a 93 geo prizm (toyota Carolla) with the dohc/1.6 4AGE. I redline that sucker every day for the last 2 years now, still doesn't even smoke on startup and rolls over in half a turn every single day.
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That's incredible. The fastest are the bare bones car. I.E. the Lx. No gfx, no wing, no nose piece blah blah. Thats why i wouldn't mind a bare bones SC to make fast. Crank windows, no A/C, no power steering, no power seats, get the idea?

Manic Z

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How do I tell if it's a genuine saleen?