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Beware of the new SS!
Bought an 06 Impala SS about 5 weeks ago. While I know alot of motorheads don't like the idea that is FWD don't under estimate its ability. For stock - she goes with a good old fashioned Chevy 5.3. Or should I say new fashioned! She sounds real nice too. They say she is noisy on the HWY, she is, its the sound of the 303 HP. I don't mind that at all. Reminds me of that old Grand National purr. I know its not the fastest car on the street but this car has been taken a beatin by many online. Pedal response is awesome. Trac control works as it should and torque steer is minimal although I'm not gonna lie you gotta get used to this car and know when to hit it. She also may not be a looker like the Charger but the interior is very well done. Overall its a very nice car. And can we please stop camparing this car to an Accord, Altima and Camry? Thats a joke. If offered, at a light, I won't even waste my time and money by punching the pedal with gas prices being soo high! LOL Still lookin for my first offer too.
P.S. Can someone please raise the speed limit to around 140 MPH?
P.S. Can someone please raise the speed limit to around 140 MPH?
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Well this thread is gonna get locked(non-thirdgen), so i might as well say i saw a imp ss pulling out of his parking spot and the exhaust sounded like kettle drums. It was truly wierd sounding exhaust.
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The impala SS is not my cup of tea and I can't understand why it has front wheel drive.
WHY ARE YOU TELLING US THIS ON A THIRDGEN CAMARO-FIREBIRD WEBSITE?
WHY ARE YOU TELLING US THIS ON A THIRDGEN CAMARO-FIREBIRD WEBSITE?
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That's bull****. It's not like it's a draw through turbo carb set-up on an air cooled Beetle. I'm sure it has perfectly fine street maners.
**For anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about, on a set-up like I mentioned, it's either barely running, or you're flooring it and hardly able to keep it on the road.
**For anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about, on a set-up like I mentioned, it's either barely running, or you're flooring it and hardly able to keep it on the road.
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It does kinda look like an Accord or Camry, just a little more gawdy.
Nothing that would make me look twice.
Nothing that would make me look twice.
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I dont like it one bit...and Im not scared of 303hp. For that kind of money, Id expect a little more than that.
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Originally Posted by TraviZ
I'll be sure to watch out for them too.
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Sounds like a FAST ride. But just a note... the SS is faster than a stock ROC! No mods yet of course.
Thanks for the sales pitch, btw.
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Originally Posted by BigWhiteGTP
That's because they don't make any mods for them yet. Yes It is an SBC, but that doesn't change the fact that it's in a fwd platorm, mods will be expensive. I bet headers are around $900 when they come out. I also may be faster stock for stock than an Iroc or GTA, but it handles like crap and sounds like crap thanks to DOD.
Thanks for the sales pitch, btw.
Thanks for the sales pitch, btw.
I am also aware that there are no mods yet, It is MY car. There will be though.
And yw for the sales pitch... I am an ex car salesman too.
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"What exactly handles like that?"
What exactly is english? What do you mean by that question?
"What does DOD have to do with handling?"
I never made any remark saying it did. Learn to read.
What exactly is english? What do you mean by that question?
"What does DOD have to do with handling?"
I never made any remark saying it did. Learn to read.
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Originally Posted by BigWhiteGTP
"What exactly handles like that?"
What exactly is english? What do you mean by that question?
"What does DOD have to do with handling?"
I never made any remark saying it did. Learn to read.
What exactly is english? What do you mean by that question?
"What does DOD have to do with handling?"
I never made any remark saying it did. Learn to read.
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Originally Posted by BigWhiteGTP
That's because they don't make any mods for them yet. Yes It is an SBC, but that doesn't change the fact that it's in a fwd platorm, mods will be expensive. I bet headers are around $900 when they come out. I also may be faster stock for stock than an Iroc or GTA, but it handles like crap and sounds like crap thanks to DOD.
Thanks for the sales pitch, btw.
Thanks for the sales pitch, btw.
Originally Posted by BigWhiteGTP
That's because they don't make any mods for them yet.
Originally Posted by BigWhiteGTP
Yes It is an SBC, but that doesn't change the fact that it's in a fwd platorm, mods will be expensive. I bet headers are around $900 when they come out.
Originally Posted by BigWhiteGTP
I also may be faster stock for stock than an Iroc or GTA, but it handles like crap and sounds like crap thanks to DOD.
Handling, you have a FWD car, most of the weight will be in the front. Not good for handling. Small sway bars, not good for handling. Soft cushy springs, not good for handling. Tall skinny tires, not good for handling. And tall ride height, not good for handling. RWD will always be better at launching than FWD. All the weight transfers towards the rear of the car when accelerating. Gigantic sway bars, good for handling. Firmer springs, good for handling. Wider lower profile tires, good for handling. And a shorter ride height, better for handling.
No where in the sentence did I say that DOD has anything to do with handling. All I said was that because of the DOD EXHAUST sounds like crap. That is because the computer will shutdown 4 of the 8 cylinders when the car isn't under load, usually when in cruise control.
Originally Posted by BigWhiteGTP
Thanks for the sales pitch, btw.
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I do not like the way those cars handle, the steering is so damn sensative especially on the v8 models.... and it looks like a honda accord and or toyota camry from a distance... I dont like any new Chevrolet cars, they look way to close to Japanese crap. In my opinion only New Chevy Trucks, and the corvette are still good looking vehicles.
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Originally Posted by BigWhiteGTP
I shall dissect my post sentence by sentence for you.
^^^ Means there are no manufacturers making modification for the 5.3L FWD motor at this time because so few people own these $30k+ cars. Meaning not enough demand.
^^^^ means, yes it is a small block V8 LS4, but that's where the similarities end. None of the parts work with the other LS motors. Everything will be custom and therefore expensive. Headers alone will cost $2000 to produce. I have already looked that up. A given header company, that would even want to tackle such a low number job, would demand $2000 and 4-6 weeks to have your car to fab headers. Since there are no headers yet, no one is going to make a cam for it, and especially no one will make $3k-4k heads for the motor. So basically all you might have is an intake and cat back exhaust. The intake you can make on your own, but the exhaust, again because of lack of demand, will run you $7-900.
^^^^ means people have cracked off 13.9 at over 100mph with cars like yours (Impalla SS, Monte SS, GP GXP ). which is faster than an Iroc by a couple tenths and a few mph. But you are talking stock for stock. That is the only time your car will be faster than an Iroc. Let's say you invest $4000 into each car. You "might" have headers and exhaust. But the Iroc, thanks to a huge aftermarket, will have his/her choice of headers, cam, heads, better intake, and computer tuning. Not to mention gear ratios for the rear. Something the LS4 cars won't have for a long time, probably not ever. Because of demand. Not enough of it.
Handling, you have a FWD car, most of the weight will be in the front. Not good for handling. Small sway bars, not good for handling. Soft cushy springs, not good for handling. Tall skinny tires, not good for handling. And tall ride height, not good for handling. RWD will always be better at launching than FWD. All the weight transfers towards the rear of the car when accelerating. Gigantic sway bars, good for handling. Firmer springs, good for handling. Wider lower profile tires, good for handling. And a shorter ride height, better for handling.
No where in the sentence did I say that DOD has anything to do with handling. All I said was that because of the DOD EXHAUST sounds like crap. That is because the computer will shutdown 4 of the 8 cylinders when the car isn't under load, usually when in cruise control.
^^^^^Means your post came off like a sales pitch to entice us to trade in our beloved Fbodies for some barely-faster-than land yacht.
^^^ Means there are no manufacturers making modification for the 5.3L FWD motor at this time because so few people own these $30k+ cars. Meaning not enough demand.
^^^^ means, yes it is a small block V8 LS4, but that's where the similarities end. None of the parts work with the other LS motors. Everything will be custom and therefore expensive. Headers alone will cost $2000 to produce. I have already looked that up. A given header company, that would even want to tackle such a low number job, would demand $2000 and 4-6 weeks to have your car to fab headers. Since there are no headers yet, no one is going to make a cam for it, and especially no one will make $3k-4k heads for the motor. So basically all you might have is an intake and cat back exhaust. The intake you can make on your own, but the exhaust, again because of lack of demand, will run you $7-900.
^^^^ means people have cracked off 13.9 at over 100mph with cars like yours (Impalla SS, Monte SS, GP GXP ). which is faster than an Iroc by a couple tenths and a few mph. But you are talking stock for stock. That is the only time your car will be faster than an Iroc. Let's say you invest $4000 into each car. You "might" have headers and exhaust. But the Iroc, thanks to a huge aftermarket, will have his/her choice of headers, cam, heads, better intake, and computer tuning. Not to mention gear ratios for the rear. Something the LS4 cars won't have for a long time, probably not ever. Because of demand. Not enough of it.
Handling, you have a FWD car, most of the weight will be in the front. Not good for handling. Small sway bars, not good for handling. Soft cushy springs, not good for handling. Tall skinny tires, not good for handling. And tall ride height, not good for handling. RWD will always be better at launching than FWD. All the weight transfers towards the rear of the car when accelerating. Gigantic sway bars, good for handling. Firmer springs, good for handling. Wider lower profile tires, good for handling. And a shorter ride height, better for handling.
No where in the sentence did I say that DOD has anything to do with handling. All I said was that because of the DOD EXHAUST sounds like crap. That is because the computer will shutdown 4 of the 8 cylinders when the car isn't under load, usually when in cruise control.
^^^^^Means your post came off like a sales pitch to entice us to trade in our beloved Fbodies for some barely-faster-than land yacht.
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See a Reseblence?
2006 Impala SS
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Not so intimidating?? What kinda design idiots are working at GM, Chevrolet Division? GM needs American designers, not some Free Lance Japanese Anime designers...
2006 Impala SS
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Not so intimidating?? What kinda design idiots are working at GM, Chevrolet Division? GM needs American designers, not some Free Lance Japanese Anime designers...
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Originally Posted by Psycho_91Camaro
See a Reseblence?
2006 Impala SS
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Not so intimidating?? What kinda design idiots are working at GM, Chevrolet Division? GM needs American designers, not some Free Lance Japanese Anime designers...
2006 Impala SS
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Not so intimidating?? What kinda design idiots are working at GM, Chevrolet Division? GM needs American designers, not some Free Lance Japanese Anime designers...
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I'll be sure to watch out for them too.
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The new V8 front drivers hual some butt.
Dont underestimate them.
I'll take DOD any day of the week, who cars if it doesnt sound v8 muscular when I'm rolling on a road trip.
Whopping 40 ms or so and you have all 8 cylinders back :-)
I just wish they made a mean FWD package if there going to make them FWD.
Big ole brakes, corners flat as can be and so on and so forth.
They all lack in the handling department unfortuneately.
Besides the more LS derivitives out there, just means cheaper prices for us to snag them for swaps :-)
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Dont underestimate them.
I'll take DOD any day of the week, who cars if it doesnt sound v8 muscular when I'm rolling on a road trip.
Whopping 40 ms or so and you have all 8 cylinders back :-)
I just wish they made a mean FWD package if there going to make them FWD.
Big ole brakes, corners flat as can be and so on and so forth.
They all lack in the handling department unfortuneately.
Besides the more LS derivitives out there, just means cheaper prices for us to snag them for swaps :-)
later
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Originally Posted by Psycho_91Camaro
See a Reseblence?
2006 Impala SS
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Not so intimidating?? What kinda design idiots are working at GM, Chevrolet Division? GM needs American designers, not some Free Lance Japanese Anime designers...
2006 Impala SS
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Not so intimidating?? What kinda design idiots are working at GM, Chevrolet Division? GM needs American designers, not some Free Lance Japanese Anime designers...
American designers are the LAST thing GM and Ford needs. All their **** is borning and no one is buying it.
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Originally Posted by stu
I see a resemblence in the fact that they are both four door sedans. I think the Impala looks more like a Malibu myself.
American designers are the LAST thing GM and Ford needs. All their **** is borning and no one is buying it.
American designers are the LAST thing GM and Ford needs. All their **** is borning and no one is buying it.
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How is this thread not locked yet??? The car sucks, it looks like a Honda, its FWD, overpriced, and for what they cost they should run quicker than a measly 13.9
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Originally Posted by 84L69TA
How is this thread not locked yet??? The car sucks, it looks like a Honda, its FWD, overpriced, and for what they cost they should run quicker than a measly 13.9
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if your comparing stock shouldnt you be on the 4th gen boards which are atleast a lil closer to your year My car might not be super fast stock but its where you end up im interested in
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Originally Posted by FrankA330
But I can surely tell the difference from this car to Japs! It is what it is.
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Originally Posted by stu
Have you ever driven or owned a Japanese car? I doubt it.
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I'm not trashing the looks of your car in particular. I certainly do feel that 98% of American cars, well hell, 90% of ALL cars are boring looking, but a lot of domestic cars don't have any appeal. Despite the continuation of stale, boring designs, I'm happy to see some new cars. Instead of the Taurus, there is the Ford 500. Your Impala has some ***** for instance. Even though the GTO and Charger will probably die out soon, and are so large that they are ludicris and never should have been made at all, they are a breath of fresh air from the large sedans of yesterday.
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Originally Posted by FrankA330
Sound like you spend alot of $$$ to go fast.
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I'm not trashing the looks of your car in particular. I certainly do feel that 98% of American cars, well hell, 90% of ALL cars are boring looking, but a lot of domestic cars don't have any appeal. Despite the continuation of stale, boring designs, I'm happy to see some new cars. Instead of the Taurus, there is the Ford 500. Your Impala has some ***** for instance. Even though the GTO and Charger will probably die out soon, and are so large that they are ludicris and never should have been made at all, they are a breath of fresh air from the large sedans of yesterday.
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Just for the record, yes, your car just is faster than ours stock. Our cars we're built 20 years before yours and you just do beat us, congratulations. You beat a car that came from the smog/power restricted 80s. Oh yea, a straight line is the only time you would beat a stock gta or 5.7 iroc, and you dont get anywhere in a straight line.
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a new impala ss would make a nice daily driver.. that's about ti though.
i think i'll stick with my Z28 though - it's faster.
i think i'll stick with my Z28 though - it's faster.
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Originally Posted by sasser43
Just for the record, yes, your car just is faster than ours stock. Our cars we're built 20 years before yours and you just do beat us, congratulations. You beat a car that came from the smog/power restricted 80s. Oh yea, a straight line is the only time you would beat a stock gta or 5.7 iroc, and you dont get anywhere in a straight line.
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From a light, the L98 will win. Those 5.3 powered cars are nice from a roll.
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Originally Posted by Jgolden314
From a light, the L98 will win. Those 5.3 powered cars are nice from a roll.
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From a light, the L98 will win. Those 5.3 powered cars are nice from a roll.
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please....
This thread is as boring as the car we're discussing.
You should have bought one of these...
This thread is as boring as the car we're discussing.
You should have bought one of these...
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Originally Posted by FrankA330
I believe Top Fuel is straight line, isn't it? the local race strip is straight. Highways are usually pretty straight too.
I still can not fathom why you would be up here bragging about your mediocre car. Its nothing. And dont say its for luxury, because thats definetly not a luxury car. Its definetly not a performance car either. I would much rather buy a decent thirdgen and spend maybe 1k on it and be faster than you, plus it would still have a lot more style. Your probably bought is just because it says SS. Have fun with you average car that blends in with everything else.