EthanH

My car will soon be getting headers, an ss hood with an airbox, H pipe W/ flowmasters, and a performance chip (it already has a 350 tpi engine) . If i ran it with say premium gas against a newer stock corvette with a 350 motor, what would you say my chances were on a scale 1-10. Im just curius what people think.

rx7speed

what is newer?

your car is a 92 newer can be quite a few years of cars there

Orr89RocZ

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newer as in 92+ vettes will beat u. doesnt matter what one it is. they will win.

LS1 vettes will crush you. Ls2 vettes will do even more damage.

the LT1 vettes are mid 13 second cars, at 103-104mph or so. you'lll be close to 100 or so with your mods u plan on. it will be closer for alittle bit.. but after about 60 i think they will really start to shut you down.. TPI doesnt pull up top too well. ofcourse i have done 8.80 seconds to 80mph (1/8mile time) on street tires with 2800 stall. if you can launch like that, you will win all the way to the 1000 foot probly, but they should pass u then and go on to win the 1/4 mile, provided they can drive good.

alot of vette guys dont drive them right. its not uncommon to see Lt1 vettes doing high 13's low 14's LOL

poor drivers i can see you hanging dead even or winning for a bit

EthanH

I say with my mods on a scale 1-10 maybe a 7. However i have seen a camaro without nos or super/turbo charger beat a stock corvette. The camaro had a 350 same stock motor with lots of mods though. You cant blame the driving either, they were on a dragstrip a long one too.

Orr89RocZ

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yeah u dont need a power adder to beat a corvette... just takes a nice heads/cam/intake package and good tune.
and even then, at the drag strip... the lowered powered cars can still beat higher powered cars because it all comes down to gettin that power to the ground, and gettin a launch. i seen cars do 10.2's at 129mph.. while others doing 10.4's at 140. from a roll, the 10.4 car would kill the 10.2's car.

but with your mods, i say a 5 outta 10..with 10 being great chance to win, and 1 being no chance at all. your not gonna beat a properly driven vette of the 92+ years

nick418

even a 85-91 vette shouldnt have any problems taking u. Esp the ones with decent gear ratio package or if its a manual with DN 4+3 or a Zf6speed. Lot of those run high 13s stock. Driven properly. Something a stock l98 fbody. cant do. A Lt1 vette will smack you. And a lsX CAR would beat u badly.

rx7speed

also premium gas isn't going to make you go faster unless you need it.
if your car isn't pinging premium gas won't do much

EthanH

Ok everybody that says my car will loose, how do you think it will compare to your car. Forget about mine.

Orr89RocZ

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my car pretty much has the mods u do, cept single exhaust and no lightweight hood. and i have some suspension and 2800 stall with 3.27 gears. i woudl guess you have 3.23 gears. i would bet my car is a hair quicker than yours based on my converter.

speed density L98's had abit more hp than my L98 in 89. but only 5-10hp max. thats not a whole lot more. with my gutted air box, headers/catback, suspension mods and 2800stall, i go high 13's at 100mph. so that difference doesnt really matter at this point.

i have messed with Ls1 C5 before and they pull extremely hard. LT1 fbody cars are about where i'm at... Lt1 vettes will pull me and probly LT1's fbodies up top end. but it should be a nice race between me and a LT1 fbody

the vettes i'll hang with probly till about 60 or 80 at the drag strip and its slowly downhil for me from there... i bet by a 1/4 mile they should have 2-3 cars on me if they can drive good. they can be 13.5 to 14.0 second cars depends on driver. with slicks i should be able to beat them or only loose by a car

Mcdamit

Look at it this way.. if its a TPI vette, even if you have a manual transmission your already down 2 tenths of a second. Reason being you weigh 2-300lbs more if not better. Then add on their stock parts not having restrictions placed on them etc. You maybe able to take down a TPI vette by a car length or so...

Sticky tires, 3.23 or 3.45 rear, manual transmission, aluminum shaft, headers, dual cats, posi traction, major timing advance 12-15* base on super unleaded; which will make up in power for the weight advantage. Then assuming everything in your engine is running right and you have the ability to drive then I am sure you can take one down.

An Lt1 car will be another story,, cause you will beat him badly off the launch if you do said mods, but at the top of second gear he will pass you if he can drive.

An LSX car give up before you try, but the LS1 isn;t a 350, its a 346.


To answer your last question,, I would be sitting right next to you the whole way down the drag strip within a tenth of a second + or - if your dialed in and have a nice tune.

89IrocZ350TPI

I am going to race a 95 Vette within the next 3 to 4 weeks. Ive got a 350tpi with close to full bolt ons. I ran 13.5 at 99 with exceptional traction. So it should be somewhat close once i get some slicks. Your chances are not looking good beacuse I cannot see your car being in the mid 13's yet. An LT1 Vette 6-speed runs mid-low 13's, LS1 Vettes hit 12s pretty easy, and as for the others..... Good Luck.

EthanH

Why is it that everyone thinks thinks their car is always faster than yours. Can my car beat a corvette no, but theirs can. I think i got a good shot, either tell me a number 1-10 or tell me yes, i dont car why.

89IrocZ350TPI

I know i know..... Maybe beacuse I have ALOT more mods than your car, and i also have track times along with dyno graphs that I can compare to the corvettes times and power figures. Other than that I dont know why If you really want to know just race one!

tpivette89

my stock 93' LT1 6speed Vette ran a 13.32 at 107.63mph with a 2.17 60ft

my stock 89' L98 auto Vette ran a 13.90 at 99.87mph with a 1.98 60ft

of course, both Vettes were in good tune and i can drive fairly well. most Vette owners dont have the driving skills to run those times bone stock. i took my cars down to our local track almost every weekend, and thus had lots of practice

89IrocZ350TPI

Thats a really good trap speed for an LT1 vette.

tpivette89

thanks, i wish i could have 60fted better though. that trap speed had 12s written all over it if i couldve gotten a better launch

best trap speed ive ever heard of on a stock LT1 Vette was by "Mr. Mojo" who hit 108mph in his manual 95'

EthanH

89IrocZ350TPI, ooooh mr. Big shot....can your car beat a ferrari too, i wouldnt be suprised. I dont what to turn this into an arguement, so dont start all this my cars better than yours, anytime you wanna go crap,..... who cares. I wasnt talking too you anyway, i was refferring to anyone.

ShiftyCapone

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Why is he a big shot? He posted the track times that he reached with two style vettes. Since this whole discussion is to help you figure out how you stack up against one I would thank him for the data he provided. I fail to see how he claimed he was better than you. If you run your car and not your mouth you would be able to see how you stack up. By the way, with the excpetion of a few Ferrari's aren't that fast.

urbanhunter44

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He never said he was all that and a bag of rocks.. he said his car trapped 99 mph, which is going to get walked on by any stock LT1 M6 car, fbody or ybody. I don't see where he's claiming to be Mr. Big Shot? Lol. Settle the **** down.

And if the vette is an LT1, you'll be seeing his tail lights. If it's an LS1, I don't think you'll have time to see his tail-lights as he'll be hitting the turn-off road when you're somewhere near the 1000 foot mark lol

Orr89RocZ

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you came in here askin for opinions. your car has less mods than some of ours and we have had some experiences with vettes and know what they are capable of. our cars with more mods are gonna be slightly faster than yours. if we cant beat vettes then u cant either.

no one is tryin to act all big shot... 89Irocz presented facts... i have seen vettes in action too and can compare to my times. based on this we have told u that u stand no chance. it sucks.. but vettes are quicker cars.. cant get around that. if you want to compete, get some more mods

wow those are great times.. especially since the 60's arent all that impressive. LT1 vettes trapping 107 is nuts. never seen one that high. i thought they were more like 104-105. lol i never seen a LT1 fbody go much higher than 101-102 bone stock

EthanH

Your still wrong, if you want to get technical. I never asked for opinions, i said rate on a scale 1-10. I have never raced one, probly never will. I was just curius. Now if i said ill smoke any vette out their, i dont care what they got in em mines the best, then i would exept the feed back. Tell me what my car can do or how i could beat a corvette. if you want to start calling my stuff crap, and yours is better, post it some were else.

Orr89RocZ

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are u being serious? who's wrong about what? did u read these responses? we told you what the outcome will be. a number scale doesnt mean much.. we gave u our opinions cuz its good information. if you have to ask how your car will do against a vette, i suggest you go to the local track and witness first hand how your car and their vettes compare.

but let me spell it out for you again.. recap of the thread

then you go on to say this

you know your gonna lose...

but anyway.. for the number thing, 80's TPI vettes, 1-10.. i'd say 6-8 depending on how good condition your car is in and the vettes. also driving abilities. auto vettes or manual vettes makes a difference too

Lt1 92-96 vettes... 1-10... i'd say 4-5
any thing LT4 or Zr1, or Z06 or Ls1/Ls2/Ls7 i'd say 1-2. its not gonna be pretty at all. no hanging with or anything related to racing could happen with that. its a beat down.. just dont even bother trying

IROCThe5.7L

From 1-10? A 0.

Orr89RocZ

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now to beat a vette.

Ditch the TPI for either HSR, superram, miniram or carbed intake manifold

get new heads.. something that flows good.

decent sized cam... good power band up to about 5500-6000rpms. should shoot for 350-450rwhp to beat most vettes or have a chance at hanging with them.

350 rwhp is easier to get. 400rwhp aint bad.. but after that ur talkin a serious street car. 400+rwhp i'd look for a 383 stroker or nitrous on that 350

EthanH

So even the moderator whats to be a jackass. I dont care, i wont be reading this post anymore.The only one taking this seriously is Orr89RocZ, Thanks for acting mature.

Orr89RocZ

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hey its just a little bit of hackin... it happens to everyone every now and then

if you want to learn more about good motor combos, hang out on the TPI board, the drag racing board, and the alternative EFI intake board

ShiftyCapone

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The feeling is mutual.

Not one single person said your car is crap. Sounds like you can't practice what you preach. I give you a zero out of ten for not understanding a single post in this thread.