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Old 02-18-2005, 02:16 PM
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New Mustang GT

Ok, I was pulling up to a stop light and over to my right was a bright red 2005 Mustang GT. I didn't even bother to look over at the guy because I knew there was no way in hell my little 305 could keep up with it. Anyway, the light turned green and sure enough he punched it, and just for kicks I did too. We raced up a hill believe it or not, and I hit 60 real damn quick, but by the time I hit 60, he was already like 12 car lengths ahead of me. ..
My ***, I need an LS1. Anyone want to donate money or an engine to me? ... Well thats my little half-hearted race story, anyone have similar stories or have beaten one of these cars yet? If so, post'em!
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LOL dude I feel your pain. I got a meany lil' 305 as well and can't wait to get my *** handed to me on the street. But hey man, take what ya get for now...next winter is a whole new story
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Their actually pretty slow .

Don't worry, its like one guy said on here.

The camaro always wins.

Even when the camaro loses, it always wins.


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I seen one at the track stock ran 14.2 and another on had atleast an exhaust ran a 13.9
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In the big picture, they arn't really that fast. If you can run consistant low 13's you should be able to beat then on the street or track. I just read in MM&FF there is a new SC based on the V2 for the '05 that when running 9.5-10.5PSI will make 480HP. Those will be the ones to watch out for.
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14.6, best one here in town.
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I like that Quote
The camaro always wins. Even when the camaro loses, its always wins.
I'll apply that to my T/A. Anyway, I thought those things were running low thirteens through the traps in stock trim. One of these days when I graduate college, I will build something really nice out of my baby and then I will be putting chips in the paint of those cars when the gravel is getting kicked up! Wuhahahahaha!!!
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The camaro always wins.
the ThirdGen always wins

for our firebird-T/A brothers
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they're not low 13 second cars. they are more like high 13 second cars, and still ugly as ever if you ask me thats just my opinion.
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ppl said they got those things to hit low 13s stock
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Awhile back me and my buddy with an 01 Vette (bone stock auto) raced a 05 with the 5 speed (i think) stoplight to stoplight and the mustang was at his quaterpannel the wholetime and started reeling us in and then his missed third
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A guy I go to school with showed me his 13.3 @104 timeslip just the other day. His is bone stock with just drag radials. I believe it is an auto to.
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Originally posted by IROCaholic
A guy I go to school with showed me his 13.3 @104 timeslip just the other day. His is bone stock with just drag radials. I believe it is an auto to.
That is kind of hard to beleive without a higher stall also. But then again I don't know what a stock stall converter is like on those cars. Drag radials can definently make a .5 second difference though.
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One of the salesman at my job just bought an 05 GT (cost just over $14000 due to his employment) with the auto trans. He absolutely refuses to race me. After hounding him for days, he finally agreed to ride in my car and I ride in his. Those new 3V engines are strong, and although heavier than the 99-04 cars, it feels faster. Maybe that's just the new 5 speed auto? And don't be fooled, the new autos are quicker off the line than the manuals. He agreed the race would be pointless, as my car would have no problem with his. His felt like a high 13 second car at best.
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For what it's worth, the January '05 issue of Car&Driver tested a 5sp '05 Mustang GT and got a 0-60 of 5.1sec and 1/4 mile of 13.8 @ 103.

Of course, put a lousy driver behind the wheel and all sorts of things can beat him. But they are definitely faster than their immediate predecessor.
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so wait.. a LS1 Fbody should run 0-60 in 5.0-5.2 seconds and run low 13s. But a new GT does the same in 0-60 but runs high 13s??? This is weird.. Plus why did FORD still have a V8 with a 5 speed.. They should throw a 6 speed in there
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so wait.. a LS1 Fbody should run 0-60 in 5.0-5.2 seconds and run low 13s. But a new GT does the same in 0-60 but runs high 13s??? This is weird.. Plus why did FORD still have a V8 with a 5 speed.. They should throw a 6 speed in there
Different cam profiles, different head designs, different gear ratios, traction. There can be MANY reasons.
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well i have seen good times from alot of people

Low 13's is possible if they drive it to hell and back...

they do have that torque controller that doesnt allow them to do burnouts and thats the first thing that has to go.

most of them are right in the mid to high 13's. just give it time tho, as more people get used to them and mods start coming in. they dyno 260-270 at the wheels so they got some power

just need alittle diet to get moving
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its a high 13 sec car off the floor, with a sesoned driver. as usual, there will be factory freaks that claim to run extrordinary lower et's. biggest issues is the motor likes high rpms, it isnt a torque motor, so a higher stall for an auto, and a considerable jump in gear goes well with that motor too. car is also very heavy too. to me it isnt a new super car like the ls2 vettes and gto's, it ranks in with the rest of the stangs in the past 20 yrs, along with the L98s, and LT1s. If you mod it, it should do better.
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2 days after their release last year, there was 1 at the track, i beat it 13.9 w/ wheel spin to his 14.2, last week, he beat me 13.3 to my 13.9 w/ wheel spin.

if i had some drag radials, i could probably stay w/ him.
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They currently run mid 13's bone stock and mid 12's with the "Six Pack To Go" mods. Aftermarket parts are available now. We're talking 1.68 60-foot times and 107 mph 1/4-miles.
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Originally posted by Mike-in-Orange
For what it's worth, the January '05 issue of Car&Driver tested a 5sp '05 Mustang GT and got a 0-60 of 5.1sec and 1/4 mile of 13.8 @ 103.

Of course, put a lousy driver behind the wheel and all sorts of things can beat him. But they are definitely faster than their immediate predecessor.
Car and Driver, these are NOT professional racers. They are not out there to run the best 1/4 mile times. They are out there to run a good time, definately leaving room to improve. Now with an auto theres not too much you can do, but with a stick, their times can be EASILY beat!

I too have seen and heard of low 13s but most are mid to high 13s. Not LS1 killers, but not bad! Also seen 1.8 60's ot of them which is just plain nuts from a stock car!
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Car and Driver, these are NOT professional racers. They are not out there to run the best 1/4 mile times. They are out there to run a good time, definately leaving room to improve. Now with an auto theres not too much you can do, but with a stick, their times can be EASILY beat!
They may not be pro racers, but how often does your average joe on the street come across a pro? Heck, at the track on grudge nights or street legal drag nights the vast majority of the guys aren't pros either.

I didn't quote C&D as being gospel, hence the "for what it's worth" comment. Besides, if you put a fairly consistant driver behind the wheel of two different cars, and car A is faster than car B (let's say a 13.5 for A and a 14.1 for B), it's fairly safe to assume putting a pro behind the wheel of those same two cars will give the same results; A faster than B, although you might see A at 12.9 and B at 13.7.

Besides, we've all beaten cars we probably shouldn't have, because the driver of that other car was a putz!
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Originally posted by Mike-in-Orange
They may not be pro racers, but how often does your average joe on the street come across a pro? Heck, at the track on grudge nights or street legal drag nights the vast majority of the guys aren't pros either.

I didn't quote C&D as being gospel, hence the "for what it's worth" comment. Besides, if you put a fairly consistant driver behind the wheel of two different cars, and car A is faster than car B (let's say a 13.5 for A and a 14.1 for B), it's fairly safe to assume putting a pro behind the wheel of those same two cars will give the same results; A faster than B, although you might see A at 12.9 and B at 13.7.

Besides, we've all beaten cars we probably shouldn't have, because the driver of that other car was a putz!
Agreeing 100% here. I know im not the best driver in the world, but im a lot better than most shmucks around here.
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Agreeing 100% here. I know im not the best driver in the world, but im a lot better than most shmucks around here.
Dont pull up next to me, if I am gonna street race (I rarely do, if ever) Im going all out, and will probably run close to what Id run at the track! There arent a lot of pros, but I do know a LOT of guys who can drive like mad men, and will on the street!
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Dont pull up next to me, if I am gonna street race (I rarely do, if ever) Im going all out, and will probably run close to what Id run at the track! There arent a lot of pros, but I do know a LOT of guys who can drive like mad men, and will on the street!
What's with the posturing and attitude? You've got a car that will run in the 12's in street trim - you don't need to come across like that. I'm really not trying to offend you here, I swear, but you almost sound like some punk with a 15 second Honda who thinks he's all that and a bag of chips! I repeat: You've got a car that will run in the 12's in street trim! That's pretty freakin' awesome, you know? Let that do your talking!
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Originally posted by Mike-in-Orange
What's with the posturing and attitude? You've got a car that will run in the 12's in street trim - you don't need to come across like that. I'm really not trying to offend you here, I swear, but you almost sound like some punk with a 15 second Honda who thinks he's all that and a bag of chips! I repeat: You've got a car that will run in the 12's in street trim! That's pretty freakin' awesome, you know? Let that do your talking!
Dont get your panties all wound up, you made a claim about not seeing pro drivers out here, I backed up the fact you come to my area, you will. Maybe around you they dont know a clutch pedal from a brake, but where I am they do.

I dont care what I sound like to you, your going to read what I type in whatever context your mood is. And the fact I own a Mustang your going to have some sort of dislike for me to begin with, as I am the enemy.

I know my s**t does stink, it only runs 12s, and I am NOT talking about my car, but defending the pro driver comment. And go ahead tell me I sound like a 15 second Honda driver, Im not one, and can back up my mouth with my timeslips, and driving. If this bothers you, well then Im sorry, Im not here to be your friend Im here to give my opinion, and if you dont like it, thats too bad...

I do let my timeslips and driving do the talking!
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Originally posted by 25thmustang
Dont pull up next to me, if I am gonna street race (I rarely do, if ever) Im going all out, and will probably run close to what Id run at the track! There arent a lot of pros, but I do know a LOT of guys who can drive like mad men, and will on the street!
You sound like you have watched fast and the furious too many times....go home mustang boy
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You think your 12.56 stang is some kind of street machine? LOL

Your a cocky kid that needs to be put in his place, you think your some high and mighty expert driver/mechanic that can beat anyone!

I bet my buddies stock z51 could murder your ***.
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I would be quite if i were you. Brian has been on these boards longer then us. And look his sig!! He has bolts on with stock head and stock suspension! No 3rd gen could pull a 12.5 like that! Give him credit. His car is awesome, so stop saying ****. Man imagine if he did some head work and suspension work and slapped a good ol supercharger on his 5.0. Thing would be running 10s! I hate how ppl put down 5.0s stangs. These engines are pretty damn good and have an awesome aftermarket, 10x better then TPI. Have u looked at 25th CD? He has trophies, timeslips and drag pics. Hes the kinda guy that wants to make his car faster, but, try to do less mods as he can. I think he accomplished his goal. He runs 12s! Smoke pretty much most cars out there. So why dont you shut your mouth and keep it that way. Brian is a good guy and give him credit!
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You think your 12.56 stang is some kind of street machine? LOL

Your a cocky kid that needs to be put in his place, you think your some high and mighty expert driver/mechanic that can beat anyone!

I bet my buddies stock z51 could murder your ***.
At least the man didn't blow up his engine being a fool.

Hahahaha.
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Originally posted by 25thmustang
And go ahead tell me I sound like a 15 second Honda driver, Im not one, and can back up my mouth with my timeslips, and driving. If this bothers you, well then Im sorry, Im not here to be your friend Im here to give my opinion, and if you dont like it, thats too bad...

I do let my timeslips and driving do the talking!
2.06 sixty if pretty average even for street tires. Not pro level for sure.
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2.06 sixty if pretty average even for street tires. Not pro level for sure.
You right, my first run EVER on street tires with a stick car. Yes thats right, NEVER driven on street radials at the track with the stick. I had BFGs and ET Streets every run before that. Id also like to add I have been racing stick for about 2 years now, cant wait till I have been doing it for 15, going to be MUCH better at it. I would say going 2.0s first time ever on street radials on a stick shifted car isnt bad, but let me guess you went 1.9s with the same car your first time out? Dont go calling stuff out you dont know, car would go 1.9s with more practice on a stock suspension, and 17 street radials, yeah thats pathetic...

As far as me being high and mighty, show me where I said that. I know my s**t stinks like everyone elses, I never claimed my car was the be all and end all, I never claimed it owned the road, and hell I dont even street race it, because I dont need to race every kid at a stoplight to prove my worth. I have TRACK TIMES that prove how well I can drive. I have a combo, and mid 12s with that combo, and if you think its pathetic or whatever your fighting about go for it, I DARE you to try and run the number. Hell come to the track with me, Ill give you the keys and let you run ALL day and you wont go any faster than 12.8-12.9 almost a gaurentee!!!

/\/3\/\/l8l3 get some track times or keep it to yourself. You have no proof your s**t dont stink either, and I have a hell of a lot more repsect for what I have done than you... Take your 383 into the 11s and be happy with it, ! Ill be right there with you on stock heads, stock cam, and a stock bottem end, and wont that make you feel good about your built motor!

I respect most thirdgen owners, its the trolls who tell me to leave after I post my opinion and they attack me. I am the kind of person who proves my worth, you want it Ill get you vids, pics, timeslips, dyno sheets, Ill show it to everyone, which is something MOST of you calling me out could never do!

Hell Ill give you the magazine pic and bit about me, Im sure something else all you guys have done. Like my second plave at a national level event, my sponsors for racing (I have 3 now, maybe more soon) all the stuff your average 19 year old snot nosed Mustang owner has... Know what your fighting about and against before you do!
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Originally posted by 25thmustang
You right, my first run EVER on street tires with a stick car. Yes thats right, NEVER driven on street radials at the track with the stick. I had BFGs and ET Streets every run before that. Id also like to add I have been racing stick for about 2 years now, cant wait till I have been doing it for 15, going to be MUCH better at it. I would say going 2.0s first time ever on street radials on a stick shifted car isnt bad, but let me guess you went 1.9s with the same car your first time out? Dont go calling stuff out you dont know, car would go 1.9s with more practice on a stock suspension, and 17 street radials, yeah thats pathetic...

As far as me being high and mighty, show me where I said that. I know my s**t stinks like everyone elses, I never claimed my car was the be all and end all, I never claimed it owned the road, and hell I dont even street race it, because I dont need to race every kid at a stoplight to prove my worth. I have TRACK TIMES that prove how well I can drive. I have a combo, and mid 12s with that combo, and if you think its pathetic or whatever your fighting about go for it, I DARE you to try and run the number. Hell come to the track with me, Ill give you the keys and let you run ALL day and you wont go any faster than 12.8-12.9 almost a gaurentee!!!

/\/3\/\/l8l3 get some track times or keep it to yourself. You have no proof your s**t dont stink either, and I have a hell of a lot more repsect for what I have done than you... Take your 383 into the 11s and be happy with it, ! Ill be right there with you on stock heads, stock cam, and a stock bottem end, and wont that make you feel good about your built motor!

I respect most thirdgen owners, its the trolls who tell me to leave after I post my opinion and they attack me. I am the kind of person who proves my worth, you want it Ill get you vids, pics, timeslips, dyno sheets, Ill show it to everyone, which is something MOST of you calling me out could never do!

Hell Ill give you the magazine pic and bit about me, Im sure something else all you guys have done. Like my second plave at a national level event, my sponsors for racing (I have 3 now, maybe more soon) all the stuff your average 19 year old snot nosed Mustang owner has... Know what your fighting about and against before you do!
I'd love to see a pic of you sexy......hahahaha
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Old 02-23-2005, 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by 25thmustang
Hahah funny the guy on probation calls me out like that, thats GREAT!!! Goes to show you what I get to work with sometimes!
I wouldn't even pay attention to that fool.
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This has gone far enough. So if you run mid 12's on a simple combo you can't be a slight bit confident? C'mon people. Thats just stupid. I suggest we get rid of the hypocracy in our posts.
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