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Old 12-12-2004 | 03:39 AM
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new hemi vs. me

so my friends has a new dodge hemi for a litle while and im want to see whats it got. who thinks hes gonne smoke me? ill post the winnings as soon as i can. this run is happening tomarrow. he says hell beat me but i dont know. never rode in one before. i will see thought.
Old 12-12-2004 | 04:30 AM
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what is the hemi in. is it a rumble bee, hemi sport, regular pickup, durango daktoa or the magum. a few people that i know have have the trucks. pretty quick. i know the rumble bee and the hemi sport are a little lighter than the regular pickup. never have raced them tho. i know they are pretty heavy. that will give you an advantage. but it also depends on what you have for a drivetrain. by looking at you info it looks like they will win.
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The regular trucks with the Hemi in them are pretty slow. My cousin's stock '96 F250 Power Stroke is faster than they are.
Old 12-12-2004 | 10:38 AM
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The regular trucks with the Hemi in them are pretty slow. My cousin's stock '96 F250 Power Stroke is faster than they are.
Correct. 345hp is nice but not when you are lugging 5000lbs. That motor suddenly became medicore when they track tested it.
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The hemi trucks are a joke, I absolutely killed one last year from a dig in my old 94z28. They are heavy trucks and I think would be a good race for the 1-ton chevy trucks.
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hey I think this is the second time me and stu agreed on some thing

yes those things are dogs. I seem to get these guys racing my daily driver and it is never a close race. then they do the drive by junk or flip you off
Old 12-12-2004 | 10:35 PM
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hey I think this is the second time me and stu agreed on some thing

I thought the thread about me being the best person in the world was on a different board?
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I don't understand stu? oh well
Old 12-13-2004 | 08:45 PM
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I have seen some low 15's with a Hemi 1500 SB truck....stock. Probably depends on what gearing and stuff they have.
Old 12-13-2004 | 09:22 PM
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Friends got a 04 Hemi 4X4 with a Raven muffler and K&N filter high 16's here(high 15's sea). No too bad for a 5500lbs double cab 4X4 truck.
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I think you guys just proved the point (not very fast at all)
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nope but not too bad either considering all the odds stacked against it.
Just like the SRT-10 is big and bad in all of its 5200lbs only getting high 13's. Still impressive for a big ole truck.
Old 12-13-2004 | 10:45 PM
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nope but not too bad either considering all the odds stacked against it.
Just like the SRT-10 is big and bad in all of its 5200lbs only getting high 13's. Still impressive for a big ole truck.
doesnt the SRT10 have 500hp? if so... High 13s seems still high for a 500hp truck, even if its still heavy
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thats what I said. Mid-high 13's from what has been seen in mags and tests. I still want one though or a 300C or Magnum.
Old 12-13-2004 | 11:03 PM
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They aren't slow trucks....as the article below shows, these are very low 15 sec trucks completely stock. With a few minor bolts ons your've got a 14 sec truck that is not only fast, but tows and holds a hella lot more than our fbodies.

In my opinion Dodge hit a homerun with the new Hemi their putting in there new cars...granted it's not similar at all to the ole hemi's from back in the day...it's a nice engine non-the-less.

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I do love that truck as well. I know that the single cab Hemi trucks are decently fast. Seen them go high 14's. Now most people though buy the double cab and 4X4's with 20's(heavy I know I have changed many out at the tire shop I work at). No matter I like Dodge Trucks the best of all the trucks out there, thats why I have one!
Old 12-13-2004 | 11:51 PM
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I beat one of those giant Hemi trucks a while back on a two-lane road at a stoplight. He tried going for it but I think he backed off after a couple seconds. You know, speed limits and such.
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i raced a hemi single cab with a stupid teen (im a teen too but i dont act the way this guy was) in it off a light and embarrassed him badly...after i hurt his pride he ran a stop sign to try me again and got walked two more times

case in point They arent race vehicles atleast stock and even their 50,000 dollar version would have trouble with an ls1 or new cobra

oh and its really great how they can tow so much more than our f-bodies bc thats their main purpose and our main purpose is muscle and speed which our cars do pretty well for today and especially well back in their era...dodges and trucks should be pullin race cars not challenging them especially nearly bone stock ones

they are nice trucks none the less i like chevys better and imo dodges got beat with the ugly stick a bit the past decade or two just my opinion tho
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the hemi is just an over publisized LS1. its a copy of something chevy did 7 years earlier. but with the name and putting it in cars made it a huge thing. ls1 is better but name hemi sells.
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Originally posted by CHEVY_EATER
I have seen some low 15's with a Hemi 1500 SB truck....stock. Probably depends on what gearing and stuff they have.

thats it my bad. its the 05 dodge hemi 1500 pick up. well we ran from like a 45 roll. i sayed same til around 90 100 and i started walking him. i know from a line i would spank it. the truck is nice and pretty quick. for a truck. i didnt know low 15's in those things. gives me an idea now what i could run. yeah its stock. its a rental vehical. goes back monday.
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You guys who bash the RC SB Hemi truck are talking out of your A$$'s. I have one and for ***** and giggles took it to River City Raceway for some 1/4 mile fun.....my truck is the 04 model 100% stock. I was running mid/low 15's at 87ishmph on a hot summer night....thats just as fast as most of our beloved 3rd gens go (stock). While I was there I beat a late 80's Mustang GT, a mid 90's V-8 T-bird and a new Mustang GT (this guy blew past me after we crossed the finish). My truck ran consistant 2.1 60' times....when the Hemi hits 3rd gear its all over for the truck...so if your gonna win a race in this truck go from a dead stop and quit at about 60mph What you have to realize is that for a truck they are fast...for a fast vehicle they are slow....my truck is a DOG compared to my 12 sec Iroc....show me a new truck on the road that you can buy for 25K that is faster than the Dodge......thats right there is none.

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show me a new truck on the road that you can buy for 25K that is faster than the Dodge......thats right there is none.

That is debatable but I know what you mean. The new dodge trucks are competitors and fairly quick when stripped down. The Ford and GM models run about the same times at my local track (mid 15's to mid 16's) though. I think if most people want a performance truck they go the lightning route since it is about 5k more. However, it doesn't have the payload as the others do. I just don't like the marketing for the new hemi motor. Is it a good motor, no doubt. They are just making a big deal out of something that the competitors have had for years now. They need a big inch hemi (and make it a real hemi) to take it to the next level. That would be cool.
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Originally posted by Orr89RocZ
the hemi is just an over publisized LS1. its a copy of something chevy did 7 years earlier. but with the name and putting it in cars made it a huge thing. ls1 is better but name hemi sells.
They are somewhat similar, but there are enough differences to where I can say "Ummm....sure buddy."
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I respect the hemi pickups, other than a clicking they seem to have in the valve train or something ....
anyway my dad drives an 04 4 door 4x4 hemi.. I was impressed
step mom drives a 04 4 door sport.. she never gets on it with me in there .. not really sure how it runs.
my brother drives a 03 single cab hemi... that bitch gets down for a truck in my opinion.. 20's.. he would give my maro a run for its money which is a high 9's 1/8 mile car... not impressive by any means but still its a 5klb truck a buddy of mine put headers and exhaust on his 03 single cab and had timeslips proving that he beat my camaro ;( anyway they arent at all race trucks but they arent the slowest thing at test n tune either... oh and my dad is highly pissed that he cant smoke tires in his $30k truck.. traction control sucks for fun.. why not include a fun switch like most manufacturers?? again I would like state that I know my car is slow lol incase I get flamed for even posting a 9's 1/8 mile time lol.
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i know the hemi is the fasted TRUCK ive ever been in. when i went for a ride in it i was impressed that it could fish tail and burn out. but then throw it in 4 by 4 and it takes off quick and off road it sits high enough that we can go through corn fields and chase deer.lol thats what we did today we where bored. he still has the rental hemi for like a couple more days. he didnt get any money yet for his totaled s10 to buy a new truck. i just want to go for a ride in the srt-10. i heard those things are beasts.
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Originally posted by slim84maro
i know the hemi is the fasted TRUCK ive ever been in. when i went for a ride in it i was impressed that it could fish tail and burn out. but then throw it in 4 by 4 and it takes off quick and off road it sits high enough that we can go through corn fields and chase deer.lol thats what we did today we where bored. he still has the rental hemi for like a couple more days. he didnt get any money yet for his totaled s10 to buy a new truck. i just want to go for a ride in the srt-10. i heard those things are beasts.
My sister's ex's mom has one...
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damn^
ive seen one in the parking lot of best buy but other then that only sitting infront of the dealers.
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damn^
ive seen one in the parking lot of best buy but other then that only sitting infront of the dealers.
Yea, she got a large sum of $$ after her b/f got killed and she bought one out of TX. I have seen it in around quite a bit but never knew who owned it at 1st! I was like WTF when I heard that a lady owned it!
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yeah atleast its getting soft miles on it. when she trades it in it will have more miles and i doubt a girl would beat on a car/truck like a guy so the thing should still be nice and cheaper.
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yeah atleast its getting soft miles on it. when she trades it in it will have more miles and i doubt a girl would beat on a car/truck like a guy so the thing should still be nice and cheaper.
You are just barrels of fun man. I wish I didn't have a job so I could just pick apart all your posts. Oh well. How old are you, seriously?
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. its a rental vehical. goes back monday.
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Originally posted by CHEVY_EATER
My sister's ex's mom has one...
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Originally posted by slim84maro
i know the hemi is the fasted TRUCK ive ever been in. when i went for a ride in it i was impressed that it could fish tail and burn out. but then throw it in 4 by 4 and it takes off quick and off road it sits high enough that we can go through corn fields and chase deer.lol thats what we did today we where bored. he still has the rental hemi for like a couple more days. he didnt get any money yet for his totaled s10 to buy a new truck. i just want to go for a ride in the srt-10. i heard those things are beasts.
Ok, so you've never ridden in a Lightning or a Syclone/Typhoon? Hell, why dont you come ride in my cousins V8 S10....then you'll see what it means to go a little quick in a truck lol. My cousins V8 S10 ran a 9.38 in the 1/8th off stock exhaust manifolds! not to mention all in a 305! Thats not fast really but its pretty quick for a truck. Had he listened to me and put some headers on it and some gears, it would have been sweet.

One day Slim, and if you ever get the chance hop into a Syclone man.....you'll have to clean the seats after you **** yourself. I rode in a bone stock one and then a modded one......The stock one is a hell of a ride. The modded one had the basic Turbo Buick mods and like 1000 in it and it could run low 11's at Beech Bend. Syclones are awesome just sucks they are so rare.
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I have owned a truck, family car and a sports car now and ill i have to say is this..

Trucks are for towing and 4 wheeling
Economy cars are for saving gas
Sports cars are for racing

I guess i cant grasp the concept of spending a ton more money on something thats not supposed to be fast and trying to make it fast. I think its the funniest thing when a truck races me. I want to tell them, You do know your driving a brick right?

Now i do understand that the hemi is quick, for a truck. But again if someone is spending the 30k or whatever on a truck because its fast is a idiot imo. I would buy a truck based on size and towing capacity.

Just because a car can do " Fish tails, and burn outs " doesnt mean it is fast. I could make a friends Geo Tracker to fish tails and burn outs, but you dont see me claiming its fast.

Plus Dodge trucks are just ugly anyhow

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Originally posted by matt3383

Plus Dodge trucks are just ugly anyhow
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Not to mention they are dodge crap. Never find a dodge/plymouth/chrysler POS in my drive.

edit: let me rephrase that. I wouldnt buy a new one, but if the price was right, maybe a beater.
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First; Amen to this (except the Dodge Trucks are ugly part ):

Originally posted by matt3383
I have owned a truck, family car and a sports car now and ill i have to say is this..

Trucks are for towing and 4 wheeling
Economy cars are for saving gas
Sports cars are for racing

I guess i cant grasp the concept of spending a ton more money on something thats not supposed to be fast and trying to make it fast. I think its the funniest thing when a truck races me. I want to tell them, You do know your driving a brick right?

Now i do understand that the hemi is quick, for a truck. But again if someone is spending the 30k or whatever on a truck because its fast is a idiot imo. I would buy a truck based on size and towing capacity.

Just because a car can do " Fish tails, and burn outs " doesnt mean it is fast. I could make a friends Geo Tracker to fish tails and burn outs, but you dont see me claiming its fast.

Plus Dodge trucks are just ugly anyhow
I own a 2004 Dodge Ram 2500 Quad Cab 4x4 Hemi and I'm pretty happy with it. The major problem with the trucks being somewhat slow is the Torque Management. It really causes the Hemi to lose power. Supposedly SuperChips has come up with a way to defeat TMC/TMR, but I have not witnessed it first hand yet as it is not available for 2004's. The 2003's have noticed improvement, however.

Besides, my truck is the family vehicle and I use it a lot for offroading, too. F-bodies are what I use for speed.

If you need more info for what many are running (instead of speculation), find out from here (my home away from my home here)

http://www.dodgetrucks.org/forums/index.php
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Why Chrysler decided to use the name "Hemi" in their new generation of vehicles beats me.

And to think people are soupping up 5000 pound street missles is even sader.
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Ok, so you've never ridden in a Lightning or a Syclone/Typhoon? Hell, why dont you come ride in my cousins V8 S10....then you'll see what it means to go a little quick in a truck lol. My cousins V8 S10 ran a 9.38 in the 1/8th off stock exhaust manifolds! not to mention all in a 305! Thats not fast really but its pretty quick for a truck. Had he listened to me and put some headers on it and some gears, it would have been sweet.

One day Slim, and if you ever get the chance hop into a Syclone man.....you'll have to clean the seats after you **** yourself. I rode in a bone stock one and then a modded one......The stock one is a hell of a ride. The modded one had the basic Turbo Buick mods and like 1000 in it and it could run low 11's at Beech Bend. Syclones are awesome just sucks they are so rare.
My friend has a Syclone but it takes more than a $1000 in mods to run in the 11's with them. They are pretty heavy trucks because of the AWD. He was running low 13's with a few light mods on his, it was a sick ride the 1st time I rode in it and he launched it! That was about 7-8 years ago or so...at the time it was the fastest thing I had been in as far as 1/4 time.
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Why Chrysler decided to use the name "Hemi" in their new generation of vehicles beats me.

And to think people are soupping up 5000 pound street missles is even sader.
Lightnings are pretty impressive for there weight. With a couple hundred in mods you are in the 12's with a 4000+ truck and it looks pretty sharp too. Some people just prefer trucks, and alot of people mod out 4WD trucks for added power for off roading and towing...
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From: Joliet, Illinois
Car: 86 Camaro
Engine: 5.7 with some mods.
Transmission: 700r4 needs shift kit
Axle/Gears: Stock.
one of my buddys owns a nice lifted red dodge truck. on the back it says 4 x 4 from hell. he has a custom bumper on there because its soo high and you can even see right under the frame and bed of the truck its that high. ide have to say its the biggest truck in the southwest chicago area ive ever seen. on the read. he still gets tickets here and there for having it too high but w/e he said he wont lower it. he did get smaller tires for the road though. and with his new tires it makes it like 4 inches taller. when he does a brake torque it digs into the street.not those little holes a car will do but actually will dig into the street. and when hes driving it with his lights off at night with just the top lights on the ones up on the roll bars, it sounds like a ufo and and looks like one.
i like riding in the thing i just dont like the fold out ladder i need to carry with me to get in and out.
Old 12-29-2004 | 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by slim84maro
when he does a brake torque it digs into the street.not those little holes a car will do but actually will dig into the street.
Sounds like you are confusing this truck with that CLAW R/C car I had when I was little.
Old 12-30-2004 | 02:25 AM
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Car: 86 Camaro
Engine: 5.7 with some mods.
Transmission: 700r4 needs shift kit
Axle/Gears: Stock.
the claw. lol. no he had performance upgrades like chip and exhaust and what not the simple stuff. its pretty quick for a truck also but its not made to be quick. like he cant even take it on a higway or go over like 70mph.
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