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Old 12-03-2004 | 06:03 PM
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82 Ta vs 90 Eclipse GSX

My buddy has the 82 Ta, he wants to know how he would fair against a 90 GSX, from a roll and dig.

The 82 is a 305 (lg4) auto. Not sure on the gears
THe Gsx, is a 90 eclipse turbo AWD, 5 speed. stock. rated at around 200 hp i think.

Just wondering how the outcomes would be, i told him i was pretty sure he would get walked pretty good
Old 12-03-2004 | 06:18 PM
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I think he'll get walked either way.
Old 12-03-2004 | 07:05 PM
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I'm pretty confident in saying he will get walked. After the launch the GSX will have on his LG4 he will probably just give up.
Old 12-03-2004 | 08:50 PM
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Old 12-03-2004 | 08:55 PM
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Old 12-03-2004 | 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by stu
I think he'll get walked either way.
Old 12-04-2004 | 01:22 PM
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the gsx probly makes more power to the wheels than the t/a. im goin with the general opinion.
Old 12-04-2004 | 02:04 PM
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the GSX will pull...i have a 96, GS-T, and i pull the TPI cars....i only have a cat back on it... now you ad AWD launch in there and its over
Old 12-04-2004 | 02:12 PM
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well him 15.2 stock!
ta high 16-low 17 STOCK! gears are 273's btw

thats like a LS1 vs a l03 lol

he shouldnt waste his gas
Old 12-04-2004 | 02:25 PM
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You will get smoked if he can launch.
I raced one from stop till about 65mph, his rear bumper was at front bumper the whole time. He is a buddy of mine and it runs 15 flat. 5 speed and he launched at 4500. Stock with fresh valve jobb.
Old 12-04-2004 | 04:58 PM
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You will get smoked if he can launch.
I raced one from stop till about 65mph, his rear bumper was at front bumper the whole time. He is a buddy of mine and it runs 15 flat. 5 speed and he launched at 4500. Stock with fresh valve jobb.
He will get smoked even if the dude cant launch. The guy in the eclipse could stall out and have to turn his car back on and still win the race by a car length
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Re: 82 Ta vs 90 Eclipse GSX

Originally posted by rubbermanZ28


Just wondering how the outcomes would be, i told him i was pretty sure he would get walked pretty good
I'd put my money on it.
Old 12-04-2004 | 06:53 PM
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i don't know. i raced one a couple of years ago with my lo3 and beat it by about a 1/4 of a car. that was when i had a crappy engine and even crappier gears. i also for some reason couldn't get traction because there was gravel on the side of the road. he put about 3 cars distance between us then i just caught up with him. i don't know if the car was out of tune or what. i suprised me that i beat him and him.
Old 12-04-2004 | 09:04 PM
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Old 12-04-2004 | 09:09 PM
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Originally posted by FbodTrek
Gonna ge towned, yup. I love those 4g63 turbo's, sweet little motors, even if it is Shizubishi.
Don't forget Chrysler. But mostly Mitsubishi.
Old 12-04-2004 | 09:26 PM
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Don't forget Chrysler. But mostly Mitsubishi.
WHen did Chrysler get a 4g63? I know the 420(or whatever the non-turbo 2.0L) got put in the NEons.
Old 12-04-2004 | 09:38 PM
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chrysler=eagle talon......also dont forget they also had a plymoth laser witch is my personal favorite of the 4g63 cars. only the 89-91 models though! also the dodge colt had a n/a 4g63.
Old 12-04-2004 | 09:43 PM
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Originally posted by vejatabul
chrysler=eagle talon......also dont forget they also had a plymoth laser witch is my personal favorite of the 4g63 cars. only the 89-91 models though! also the dodge colt had a n/a 4g63.
That's right, I always forget, DSM= AMerican car. lol.
Old 12-05-2004 | 02:51 AM
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No, DSM = Mitsubishi and Chrysler came together and built a couple of cars together.
Old 12-05-2004 | 03:02 AM
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No, DSM = Mitsubishi and Chrysler came together and built a couple of cars together.
DSM of AMERICA, therfore, they are American made cars (like your Acura). ANd they made LOTS of cars, just not alot of MODELS. EAgle TAlons, Plymoth LAsers, Mitsu Eclipses I think that's all. Anyhow, Diamond Star Motors is an American company (like Acura). Even though Acuras are just Hondas with better upbringing (American Upbringing).
Old 12-05-2004 | 05:16 AM
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Don't forget the 3000GT/Stealth and the Starion there all mighty know it all. Acura isn't an American company, it's just a branch of Honda, just as Cadillac is a branch of Chevy. Yes, most Hondas and Acuras are built here, now. I don't know if my Acura was built in the states though. I think you are confused about how Honda/Acura, Toyota/Lexus, Nissan/Infinity work. Those companies created their respective luxury lines solely to be sold in America because that's how Americans like it. America didn't make them. LOL, what a silly concept.
Old 12-05-2004 | 08:10 AM
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Old 12-05-2004 | 08:19 AM
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never forget the 2.2l turbo lebaron. i have an 87 im tinkering with
Old 12-05-2004 | 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by scubas_90rs
i don't know. i raced one a couple of years ago with my lo3 and beat it by about a 1/4 of a car. that was when i had a crappy engine and even crappier gears. i also for some reason couldn't get traction because there was gravel on the side of the road. he put about 3 cars distance between us then i just caught up with him. i don't know if the car was out of tune or what. i suprised me that i beat him and him.

lo3? that is the TBI car right?
and if you had crappy gears and engine, no traction and you putting 3 cars on him and then caught up. you prolly raced a base style eclipse.


quite a bit different different the turbo style eclipse
Old 12-05-2004 | 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by FbodTrek
DSM of AMERICA, therfore, they are American made cars (like your Acura). ANd they made LOTS of cars, just not alot of MODELS. EAgle TAlons, Plymoth LAsers, Mitsu Eclipses I think that's all. Anyhow, Diamond Star Motors is an American company (like Acura). Even though Acuras are just Hondas with better upbringing (American Upbringing).
wait wouldn't that make chevy a mexican or canadian company then
Old 12-07-2004 | 12:51 AM
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rx7speed f you would have read what i posted correctly. I said he put three cars on me. not me putting three cars on him. and it was the turbo model because i looked at it before we raced and seen the turbo. and i have also rode in the car and i have heard it spool up when he got on it. last i new the gsx's had turbos. but i could be wrong. next time you start contradicting what people say make sure you read what they say not assume what they are saying.
Old 12-07-2004 | 01:41 AM
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Originally posted by scubas_90rs
rx7speed f you would have read what i posted correctly. I said he put three cars on me. not me putting three cars on him. and it was the turbo model because i looked at it before we raced and seen the turbo. and i have also rode in the car and i have heard it spool up when he got on it. last i new the gsx's had turbos. but i could be wrong. next time you start contradicting what people say make sure you read what they say not assume what they are saying.
hey no need to be harsh there
I misread I admit it

but still I would say if he put that much on you he gave up and was just having fun at that point
Old 12-07-2004 | 12:10 PM
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rx7speed. I wasn't trying to be harsh. I was having a bad drunkin day yesterday. everything seemed to **** me off. when i had caught up to him he was still trying to race but you know like I said the car might have been way out of tune.
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If the car was out of tune how did it put 3 cars on you in the first place? Sounds like he stopped trying until you caught up again.

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THanks for the replies, the reason i ask this, is because i just bought a GSX for the winter, my mustang and camaro are being put up for the snow. Please dont hate me for buying this and owning a mustang LOL

The GSX does launch really well now that i drive it a bit, has TONS of turbo lag, but when it kicks in its pretty strong for a 4 popper. Im gonna put a timing belt autotensioner and all that fun stuff in it before i drive it much. This car already had 1 engine put in it, put in 7K ago. Other than that its all stock, prolly gonna get exhaust (no **** crap) and boost controller maybe. Dunno yet
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how in the WORLD do you have turbo LAG...the 14-B is like a peanut, only smaller by the T-25 which came in the 2nd gen eclipses....also i have the T-25, im getting boost around 3k...i just launch and let it slip and i dont feel lag???? but anyways also the DSM thing....3000gt/stealth werent DSMs....and after 94...Diamond star was not really affiliated with the 95 through present eclipses...they may have carried the motors through 99, but they were true DSMS
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Originally posted by ghettosmurf
how in the WORLD do you have turbo LAG...the 14-B is like a peanut, only smaller by the T-25 which came in the 2nd gen eclipses....also i have the T-25, im getting boost around 3k...i just launch and let it slip and i dont feel lag???? but anyways also the DSM thing....3000gt/stealth werent DSMs....and after 94...Diamond star was not really affiliated with the 95 through present eclipses...they may have carried the motors through 99, but they were true DSMS
I was pretty sure that the 3000GT/Stealth were DSMs, but I'll have to ask my friends that know better than me.
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What defines a DSM or what does it stand for. I never heard of the 3000GT/Stealth referred to as a DSM. If it has to do with the Chrysler/Mitsu productions or AWD then they could be considered DSMs.

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Yeah i go to apple valley. I went to School down the road at East Knox.

As far as the lag, i havnt paid attention if i launch hard, it might not be bad. But if i just mash it in 1st, it doesnt really make powert to 3200 or so. No biggy though I wonder what upgrades to get for it
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Originally posted by anymethod
If it has to do with the Chrysler/Mitsu productions
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That's exactly what it means. It stands for Diamond Star Motors.
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That's exactly what it means. It stands for Diamond Star Motors.
Made in America (as seen on the data tags). I say it makes it American, so sue me stuey (lol at ryming) Anyhow, you should come to Houston and meet some of my Import buddies stu, they'll show you you don't need turbo to spank **** Anyhow, Just cause I drive a Camaro, doesn't mean I don't know imports (that's 90% of the gearheads around here).
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Originally posted by FbodTrek
Made in America (as seen on the data tags). I say it makes it American, so sue me stuey (lol at ryming) Anyhow, you should come to Houston and meet some of my Import buddies stu, they'll show you you don't need turbo to spank **** Anyhow, Just cause I drive a Camaro, doesn't mean I don't know imports (that's 90% of the gearheads around here).
You don't need turbo to go fast, but you need way more money than I'll ever put into a car to go fast without it.
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"That's exactly what it means. It stands for Diamond Star Motors."

Well then I would say that 3000GT/Stealths are DSMs.

By the way Stu, I was wondering why you decided to buy your Acura. Did you want a reliable car with good gas mileage or did you know you were going to mod it when you bought it?

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Originally posted by anymethod
"That's exactly what it means. It stands for Diamond Star Motors."

Well then I would say that 3000GT/Stealths are DSMs.

By the way Stu, I was wondering why you decided to buy your Acura. Did you want a reliable car with good gas mileage or did you know you were going to mod it when you bought it?

~Matt
I had a '96 GSR before that car, and when it was wrecked I was driving a '73 Super Beetle for almost a year. The Beetle got like 12 mpg and kept breaking on me, so I got fed up with it. One of the guys on my board was selling the car (his girlfriend's at the time) as a parts/project car for dirt cheap and I couldn't pass it up. It had low mileage, and was the base model with the least amount of accessories. The last two Acuras I owned were the worst as far as the power windows/sun roofs were concerned (very crappy mototrs and regulators) so I was really looking forward to having a car with no power anything to break on me.

I picked the car up for like $1,005 or something. I specifically bought it so I could make it fast. My last car I did a bunch of suspension stuff on it, and it was pretty fun, and towards the end of owning that car, I started to learn about real motor mods (no more crappy bolt ons). Like most people who don't know about FI, I was afraid of it, so I never looked into it. When I got this car though, I basically said, screw suspension and making it look nice and all that crap, I want to go fast, so that's what I did. It took me around a year and a half to save up for all the stuff and slowly piece the car together. I was pretty proud of it.
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