I saw a set of ZR-1 rims that looked sick. How much did those 99 Z28 rims go for?

 

I have a 89gta that people shake their heads at when I turn down races, or ask them to race. I AM running a 500+ hp motor and people don't know what beat them when I get done. There are no badges, v6 wheels, old paint with a couple of dents, and never wash it. I do have a flowmaster cat back kit, and did have hi-flow cats on it. I try to make it a point to have my stereo system on loud, wear blue jeans and a t-shirt when I go out.
I think if you draw attenion to other parts of the car then then motor people don't realize what they are getting into./

 

got any pics?

 

almost nothing.

i dont really have any pics.. i dont take pics that often...

heres the closest i could find.... this was one of the times when my rear end went "boom"... lol

 

Nice Cars

 

a broken tail light seems to work for me

 

There is a guy around here with an old VW van, it has a built 350 in it. he used to race people all the time. He said the look on their face priceless. He dosent realy drive it anymore tho.

The problem with the sleeper idea is word spreads quick. you will beat a few not so fast people and then they will tell everyone then no one wants to race you because they know you are fast.

 

A sleeper can be done right. You have to know how to work the people in the area, and your basically given one weekend to play these people before your cover is blown. Lots of guys have done it, and done it well, and even some have done it with the same car, after a few body panels, some paint, and getting another "new" guy to drive. I have seen some cars come from nowhere to take a lot of money, and never be seen again! Its an artform when done right.

 

don't you know that's the new sleeper.


it makes their car look fast like it could run 10's but in all reallity the car is a true sleeper in that when you give it gas it acts like it's sleeping.


see see it's a slepper


sorry it's early in the morning

 

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you lie

 

I don't know I think the sleeper look on a fbody can be done without having the stock look but can be done with a look at me look look look


lets start here
13" gold spoke rims
huge spoiler on the back.
invader style body kit or at least the front fascia
the little gold or chrome mustache thingies for the fenders
altezza taillights or putting the tape with cutouts in them to make your taillights have a specific shape no them
put a z28 and SS badge and put it next to your 2.8L MPFI badge
use dual exhuast with big huge 4-5" tips like what you would see on a honda
make sure the muffler is visible also and the tip is part of the muffler. if you could only get away with using a single outlet that is fine.


it would be a sleeper cause people will see the car. they will laugh at you. and expect that you know nothing about what you drive. just don't pop the hood cause when they see the supercharged 383 sitting under the hood they might get second thoughts. about how stupid you and your car really are

 

guess around here someoen is driving an old mail truck that has a 383 sitting under the hood.
looks like crap makes you think stock mail truck till you see it run

 

Whistler tips on the exhaust, a primered black fender on one side, faded hood, cracked tail light and of course a built sbc.

 

I realize MrDude's post is really old now, but I thought that I'd let yall know that I just came across an E-Bay ad that lists three blocks (sold altogether) - a 350 2-bolt, 350 4-bolt, and a ... you guessed it ... Oldsmobile 350 Rocket block. With 32K miles, at that. Starting price is only $75, no bids, Brighton Michigan, pick-up only. Here's the ad

 

Nitrous.

LT1 T/A was very surprised a truck on 20s just pulled him...

 

I used to have a taurus sho, although not super fast it ran pretty hard. It would wind out to about 50mph in first (auto). But people thought it was a joke when i tried to race at a light until they heard it screamin away from um. A lot of guys would laugh, look at this guy tryin to race his taurus. But there are a few guys who knew right away what it was.

 

As long as they can't see the SHO on the back bumper lmao. Hell, I'd even go to the extent of putting on base model non-SHO body pieces so they'd think it's a regular Joe Schmoe Tauras

 

any 16x8" camaro wheel is good enough to get a 255 50 series tire, and if you go with drag radials thats plenty of grip with *unseen* suspention mods. I would go with the drag shocks/struts and sbfc's along with boxed lower control arms and front sway bar delete...
If your car is in the 300+HP range, these mods are a must anyway(sway-bar optional... i cant tell the difference much)

actually any stock looking thirdgen (besides the turbo TA) is a sleeper if it can run better than14.0 on the street or strip.....

 

SHO Tauruses can only make so much power at the wheels (more, but nothing mind blowing) before the spider gears in second and third gear shear themselves everytime. If you've got a car that runs low 13's, you should never have to worry about an SHO Taurus.

 

Well Like i said it wasnt super fast, just what it was capable of was unexpected to most. I actually got rid of it because the tranny was gettin sketchy, Transmisions are a common issue with the atx's.

 

What did the sho cars run mid 14's?

 

Probably closer to low to mid 15s stock, they came with a 3.0 and 3.2 24v dohc yamaha motor that made 220hp.

 

An RS body with the bad paint, stock rims, and dark tint; a cut off straight 2.5in exhaust and taking 6 degrees of base angle timing out on the digicon and on the sound and visual side no one thinks the car will do anything. TPI 350, 3.27 posi and 150 shot make for a quick car and usually no one bothers to look at what's actually in the thing, they're too excited about getting into a race they "know" they can win. Heck I even have the motor listed under my name and saying RS apparently makes its such a sleeper guys here on third gen will rail your car for being an LO3; just make fun of some imports in a thread and watch the fur fly

 

even if you have nice paint.......get out and use the dust mop all the time..make it look like its yur baby so they think it gets left in the garage and never raced....

Its really not about the car anymore its how you carry yourself to other people.....play stupid but not so stupid to say its stock but you can hear every cylinder firing....

 

Don't purge before the race.

 

Everyone knows the ugliest cars are always the fastest at the dragstip, it's the ones that spent all their money on paint that you don't need to worry about.

 

Just keep the car looking and sounding completely stock, people will never assume you've done anything to it because the car appears to be completely stock. If you do that you'll be all set. Once you do something to the appearance, whether it be wheels or whatever, people will start to be suspicious. Build the motor and sleeper you have. My GP basically looks completely stock, and while its not fast, someone who pulls up next to a 4 door 1990 GP would never expect it to run 13's. My dad has a GTP that runs 11.9's and it looks completely stock and sounds pretty stock at idle, and its also a 4 door car, thats a sleeper.

Shawn

 

make your car look all the work is in the appearance. Put a license plate that says something like V6 RS and then go ape **** under the hood. Tint the windows so nobody can see the roll bar that's been painted black and the guages need to stay out of the window. People will think you're just some stupid guy that thinks his car is fast just because it an f-body and didn't even do anything under the hood. Go with TBI and paint everything black like they do from the factory and stick with the factory appearing valve covers and such. I plan on passing my car off as a blown mild 305 despite the fact that its really going to have an SB420 with the works.

 

my point exactly

 

Yup. Mostly the 5.0 LX cars

 

Wrong. Some people, though not usually third-gen or fox body owners, have enough money for both...

 

hehehe ME!

 

:rollseyes: Yep, that's a sleeper!! haha Altho, if you have a real quiet exhaust on that stroker, than maybe it could be considered a "wannabe-fast" or all-show, no-go kinda car...

 

Ive got 3 inch duals dumped behind the door with Moroso spiral flows...I plan on switching that out this summer so i can hear myself think.....that and tint the windows so the red cage isnt so visible.....which believe it or not from a side view the cage cannot be seen

 

love the car but the hood fitment is terrible.

The best example of a sleeper is a 92 B4C car. Nuff said.

 

I agree with the hood fitment but I seen a lot of harwood hoods look pretty sad on other cars...

you wanna buy me a b4c

 

The best sleeper isn't going to be a third-gen

 

Third gens are a medium...everyone knows that most of em came with a high powered torque monster 305...(sarcasm)
hot timeslips with 15 sec. 1/4s....not a bit impressive anymore.

Then again the l98 cars ran some decent 14s. Now were talkin big power cuz you can almost keep up with an SRT-4!!!!

 

Sleeper:

302 Festiva - somehow

Turn it off at redlights, and play a cassette tape of the original exhaust.

Turn it on ahhh!

 

I hope you didnt take it the wrong way, I love the car, was just commenting on the harwood. No hard feelings.

 

I saw one with a SHO motor in it in a magazine. It ran 14.0s.

 

Well this is TGO but I've gotta say a MASSIVE sleeper is a RWD conversion Lumina or Cavalier.

 

Ultimate Sleeper Cook Book
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This set-up is best when people don't look into your car or under the hood.

1982-1984 Camaro Berlinetta hardtop/auto in factory paint. Make sure you have a base model hood, no louvers or anything.
For example: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1984-...QQcmdZViewItem

Paint one of the front fender in primer. Put a dent in a rear fender. Put on a different color rear bumper. Find a used set of rear window louvers. Use an airbrush and paint some rust around the fender lips, lower rocker panels and other rust prone areas. Try to get the ugliest interior color you can think of, red works good. Put in a torn seat, a cracked dash pad, and make your interior panels rattle. Find a set of base model RS wheels from a 91-92 car as so: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1991-...QQcmdZViewItem

Swap in a LS1 built up to handle a turbocharger. Install a custom rear mounted turbo set-up, like an STS kit. The STS kit will also leave you with one exhaust tip. The turbo itself will also keep the exhaust quiet, but you can always run an extra resonator to cover up the sound of the V8. Use the boost controler to keep low boost to taunt the other driver, and change it to high boost to beat him. A strengthened rear end and transmission also helps.

Oh, and get a set of fuzzy dice for the rear view mirror, grow a ******, pop in an AC/DC cd, and wear a wife beater.

 

thats way too much work johnywantsaTA...... if i had a turbo LS1 in a third gen, i could also afford to make my third-gen look fast too, There is no other street car (besides tubbed out) that could challenge a turbo LS1 from a dig with proper suspension mods*.. Bring on the STi's too,and the rest the AWD tin cans!!!!

 

bull**** on that bold part.... i can tell you from experiance, if you're putting a turbo on a LS1 3rdgen, you dont have the money to do everything else.


if you did have the money, you wouldnt be doing this to a thirdgen. LOL.

 

or any other ls1 in a thirdgen right mr. dude

 

Ya never know Some people have deep love for the Third Gens, I know I do Now if only I had money for a TT LSx...

 

There are a couple problems with this post.

First and foremost, you wouldn't waste time seeking out dented and rusted panels, when every third gen comes with those already. Same thing with the ugly interior and cracked, rattling dash.

Second, why would you run low boost to lure someone? An LS1 on even 6 psi is making at least 450 rwhp, and by that point, you aren't much of a sleeper. It's not like turning the boost down makes it more quiet.

If you've ever seen a rear mounted turbo kit (stupid idea if you ask me) then you'd know that there is usually not room for much of a muffler, let alone an additional resonator.

As soon as the person looks under the hood, they'll see it's an LS1 and know it's fast. There is no point in using those crap rear mounted turbo kits at that point.

 

Tin cars? Maybe if you are comparing them to some iron duke, out dated Camaro. No car today has any more plastic on it than a Corvette.

I can't wait until that stupid assumption finally dies.

 

Theres some local guys here dropping ls1's in rx7s with blown rotaries. Ive been starting to get interested in the idea, could make a killer sleeper(besides the v8 rumble).