You would have to see this car to appriciate it. Its rust free 30,000 miles that had a blown 3.8 in it. Its the same platform as a Malibu or Gutlass and about the same weight. If I had the money I'd put a buick turbo motor in it ,but since I have a 400 block I'm just going to put in a nice "mild" 406 in it

 

i was just being sarcastic with ya man ...LOL

but sounds like its a nice ride to build on for a good sleeper project

 

well that crosses the line of a sleeper. LOL if it is a 9 second car or whatever, then no amount of silly talk can sucker in anyone. unless you indeed have a car that is super fast like 9 or under and you feel 100% confident that you can out run him. but when is anyone 100% confident?? LOL you cant tell a 383 from a 350 or a 305 for that matter. so you can never really know. LOL

 

heres a new recipe for me stuff a 454 sbc with hei with a black cap manifolds ported to flow get some afr heads shave of the afr design to make it smooth put some 1.7 rockers on it with tall covers painted orange or black. single plane victor series or equal to it. paint it black put a qjet modifed to 1200 cfm on it hidden nitrous system such as nos topshot aircleaner type. several sneeky pete bottles. make the timing belt electric water pump but make it non obvious no other systems except alt. have a fake bat up front in that bat hold oil sump pump for dry oil sump. everything would be forged custom ground cam exhaust would consist of 2 sets of 3 chambered exhaust so a total of 4 mufflers. with electric cutouts trans would be lenco or liberty tires would be drs but have bfg spraypainted on side. inside all sound deadner taken out fake just the plate for the stereo no cage maybe a harness bar lift bars for sure along with sfcs coilovers 90/10s up front skinnies up front. put this in a vega or any car and it would be a sleeper easy 10s vega easy 9s and its all n/a to bad it would cost u over 30gs to build it

 

There you go! You and I are on the same page on that. You know what the ultimate factory sleeper is? Mercury Maurader.. that car is one bad *** luxury sedan and if you didn't know it, you would never guess.

 

Omni GLH with worked turbo is ultimate sleeper

mauraders are suppose to be muscle sedans. they go agressive look and are decently powered. like 300hp.

 

Guess I'm not familiar with that car, post a pic if u can

 

LOL omni is a mopar. 80's turbo mopar cars. can be pretty fast.

here she is...

 

Now THATS what I am talking about!!!!!! Nothing else needs to be said.

Kevin

 

My father has had 3 Mauraders. Awesome cars

 

Those turbo Omni's rock!!!

It's been awhile back, but there was a local kid who had one. It was rusted out, didn't even have the alloy rims anymore...

He ended up sinking all his money in the engine...that little monster was FAST!!!

But it's still a 2.2... I bet he could do that head gasket swap in his sleep after owning that car lol...

As for G-Body's...well for dragstrip purposes, they can be made to hook VERY Well for VERY little $$$ and they are full framed cars as well.

I can name about ten or so G-Body's around my area that are 11 sec cars or faster....and most of them are not high tech at all....


Although there used to be a GN powered Malibu wagon around here...haven't seen or heard about that thing in a long while...the builder was a GN fanatic, so I know it was fast, just don't remember how fast..

 

Hey im not a huge ford fan but i got to give credit where it is due ....the Mercury Maurader is one bad S.O.B. from what ive read on them and seen .....they have one at the ford dealer here in my town right now used well atlest they did last week .....those are some good looking cars thou

 

when my wife and i first got together she had a 85 dodge daytona turbo z ....for a four cylinder with a five speed i was impressed with it ...LOL

little sucker would get up and run

 

firebird? its ok. i forgive ya.

i feel the same way.
i make my car however i please, and if i feel the urge to be a sleeper, i'll just **** the proper attitude.


ive suckered a high 13 second "i think im king of the world MrBadass" into racing a caged, tubbed 10second car.... trust me. it really is all in the attitude.

and i dont worry about the 305, 350 or 383... thats why i run 400s... the only way to stroke it out more then that, reliably, would be a aftermarket block... and that would raise a couple flags with me.. lol.

 

awesome, that guy must have been a dumbarse to not beable to pick up the signs of a fast car. in my case, i would have be real wary of a car like a caged tubed car. i run about 13.9's now and i now what i can play with and what i can get serious on LOL That caged car would be a prime example of me knowing what i can "play" with and i know i would get raped. LOL


i wish i could run 400's. a tall deck block does make a noticeable difference if you know what one is LOL so people wouldnt beable to tell and i guess that would be your sucker for a race.

 

actually, he wasnt stupid. i just used another tactic.. basicly, we pissed him off. he got hot headed. he ran anyway, and he lost.
i dont do that to everyone... im only the jackass stealing your money when i catch you being a jackass trying to rip someone else off... this guy was running beginners for money and making a killing.. a 13sec car on agienst 15 and 16 second cars..


they arnt "tall deck". there is no "noticeable difference" that the avg person would know. they may know to look at the dampener, and they may look at the block casting number, but you can easily make it hard to see either one.....

 

wow, that is crazy. make a guy mad and beat him at his own game. LOL thats great. he picks on 15 second cars and gets beat at his own game. What goes around comes around.


colors do a good job on hiding things. like the factory hugger orange everytime, heads/intake/block or all black. black seems to hide details.

yeah, the big 427 454 smally world motors are not tall deck. i thought they were but its the big block motown blocks that can be ordered tall deck. i got confused.

but there are some tall deck, raise cam small blocks. not sure which ones but shapiroff (sp?) has a 472 small block. thats what i want

 

its called a rocket block i believe.... im not too fond of them as they have several small diffrences... (not saying the 400 doesnt have its diffrences, but..........) lol.
somthing about oldsmobile making it or somthing... i used to know, but without somthing to jog my memory, i dont recall... i know it has taller decks, and a raised cam centerline...

 

LOL!! That's the funniest looking "fast" car that I've ever seen!

 

the rocket block is actually a lightning i believe block chevy made if in the mid 90s they arnt made any more and there a mid block a lil bit bigger than the small block the prices were so outrageous only a handful were sold and they werent sold to the public.

 

Don't forget to mount your intercooler as far in your bumper as possible, and if you can't afford to have it anodized black, put some screen door in front of it. Keep the screen as far away as possible, but mine right on top and you still can't see the IC.

 

these are some great tips

 

See, I took this picture maybe 4-6 feet away from my car and you can't see the intercooler at all. You can only see it when the sun is shining directly at it.




Here it is at night with a flash directly on it:


In the flesh:


People always laugh when I tell them that I made a grill out of used screen door, but you can see just how effective it is.

P.S. I usually wouldn't post pictures of my car, but it's about the best way to illistrate my point.

 

build a car that looks like this and emphazise that it has "just a 305"

 

Drill big holes in your car ramps to save weight and increase traction.

 

Sport Coupes and LTs ROCK!!!

Kevin

 

um, if your talking about that blue thing in front of my car, well, that is one of those bean-bag toss games for my church. my parents live in a motor home and park outside of the church when they aren't on the road doing their full-time drag racing ministry.

yes, sport coupes rule!

here is what my parents ride in:

 

I guess if I was going to build a sleeper 3rd gen, it would have to be a super coupe!

 

Here's a sleeper Thrid Gen for you:

Oh damn, I can't get the pictures over here. I'll do it later....

 

Picture this sleeper:


2000 Subaru Impreza 4dr base model

V7 STi motor from japan wired in
STi RA 5spd gears (very close ratio... hit 5th in the 1/4)
STi Ra 4.44 from and rear diff gears
EcuTek CPU reflash
740+cc injectors
FPgreen or GT30R turbo
intake and exhaust basics

all in a nice AWD 2600lb package... Hello 11 second econo box

 

true. any turbo'd car can be a sleeper cuz you cant tell how much boost they run. LOL

2000wrx, you on wrxfanatics.com?

 

try those underneath car turbos.

 

at times I check them out... mostly on www.nasioc.com

 

I think my GT is a good sleeper..just looks like any other GT with exhaust.


Alot of cars have been caught off guard with it...hehe...especially since it hooks better on the street than at the track. I used to kill everything I race off the line on the street when it was NA. Only thing that could get me was my friend modded Tsi Talon that could only get a car on me at most.

 

Mods??

 

LOL mustang 5.0 a sleeper? Bull****, every 8th grader in the world knows they can be fast.

Honestly I have seen one car that totally blew my mind when i saw it.....Buick Regal (like a 79) had a 383 stroker and it flew

 

Now? It has a SC, exhaust, and thats about it. All else stock... 12.77@111

 

that'll get you owned by the entire lowcountry section of the south carolina F & Y body club.

the only 2 people you would whomp would be ryan with a 305 TBI 3rdgen, and rob with a 13second 305 monte carlo.

now if that car did 10s, it would be a killer sleeper.

if it did 11s, it would be a quick little sneek.


but being in the high 12s? thats expected by any respectable fox body.
that isnt a sleeper... its a basic Fox body done well.

 

well i bet if anyone the a SC on their car. and exhaust left the rest stock thier bound to be fast. and sleeper i bet you can here the SC also.. i don't ever think the 5.0 are slow i just don't want to under estmate them cause i could get beat badly by a 5.0 with some mods or i could just burn them badly you can't really just tell

 

eh, it has the potential for a great sleeper platform.... if you intend to race the cocky LS1 crowd.

for the 3rdgen crowd, they're already too close to consider them a non-thread... so from a 3rdgenners point of view, its not a sleeper, but a competitor. even dead stock looking.

 

Agreed! My friend is got and awesome sleeper untill he starts it, a 1982 Buick LeSaber with a 383 and th 400 and built rear. All I have to say is its fast for a car that wieghs over 4000 pounds!

Kevin

 

Yea.. a 3500 lbs car with stock everything except a SC with 7lbs of boost and exhaust running in the high 12's is crap. If I had slicks or et streets it would be a hell of alot better...or some actual gear. Not all races are in a 1/4 mile..and I have plenty of topend when that comes in to effect. For under $1600 in total mods it goes good. It's not a drag car..it's a street and show car. It has every available option, A/C, you name it plus a nice stereo system. All stock suspension, you name it. I drove it to the track..which is a 40 minute trip to Canada..drop the pressure in the tires..then run consistent 12's at over 110 with a lousy 2500-3000 slipping clutch launch.

 

I have a Powedyne and it is almost dead silent. For my mods and weight..I have good times to what most get. I know I could drop an easy .3-.4 in the 1/4 with slicks...

 

Make it look like a different car.


De-emblemed TTA- has low back GTA rear leather seats, flowmaster even makes the little six sound like a 305.



can't hide the fact its not a TPI

 

if i had a TTA, i would make sure everyone knew about it LOL

 

VERY nice car!

 

BAD IDEA, those add 70 horse powers at the wheels yO!

 

you brought back a thread over a year old for THAT comment??

 

Man this post really took off. A few of my friends tell me my car looks like a sleeper, maybe beacuse i still have the stock rims.

 

yea, im told mine is a sleeper all the time too...
i dont have the stock rims anymore, but the 99 z28 rims that are on it dont look too out of place or anything..
the only "racy" thing on my car is a set of corbeau seats... other then that and the rims, it looks stock... to a non-thirdgenner, the rims might even look stock..
keeping the cutout closed and exhaust going thru a 99z catback helps too... lol.