Ok, heres my honest opinion:

- The hood difference isnt as big as you think. the stocker weighs around 75 lbs and I have a fiberglass ASCD cowl hood on mine now and it weighs around 40 lbs or so....You have to rembmer, Camaros hoods are Gigantic still, Fiberglass or steel. So you may have gained 50 lbs or so out of that deal.

- Going to a T-5 has helped you out but if he has a stall and you dont know, well the mManual is a useless point, cause put a stall in the auto and in a straight urn, itll run great.

- The gears and exhaust didnt really help you much, as you arent making enough HP to take full advantage of those options. Exhaust, actually helped you more than the gears did.

- Dont be deceived by looks at all. My 92 RS looks like crap, Ive got a silver cowl hood (soon to be swapped back to original hood in grey primer), grey primers top, rusted drivers door and dented drivers Fender and I can still pop out some 10.2's in the 1/8th all day long easily. If I put some gears in it Id guarantee Id be down around 10.0-9.9's no problem as I can feel the peg legging holding that car back ALOT! So, like I said looks and a FLowMaster can be decieving, I put a FLowMaster on mine to free up the flow of the stock exhaust....IUt barely has a rumble to it till I hit about 3K and then you hear it loud and hard.

SO, my guess is the 305 TBI wil ltake you by about 1 1/2 cars

 

The LT1 has like a million more horsepower than the L98, and about the same torque rating.

 

its was just a joke man. dont get so mad over somethin so stupid.

 

a million? only has 30 hp (pretty much nothin huge) Thats for the 245hp L98 vs 275 lt1 F body

 

nidyanazo i was refering to the usless post by sprayed...not yours, and yeah i know yoiu were serious as i would go to the track if i could but cant at the moment.

yeah i love bikes but the one on my site isnt the one i have anymore, i was just toying with that one till it broke, i now have a 2001 yamaha YZF600R black and silver. its my baby =) yours is pretty interesting never seen one like that.

anyways....yeah looks can be deiciving if you look at my car with its primer spoiler and primer door from someoen hitting me last year on xmas it looks like its nothing as well. ive never had anyone think it was a v6 though its kinda funny...it does look faster than it is though


looks like a lot of rain this weekend hope it holds off....

 

Pillbry10, you live in Evansville, Indiana huh? I used to live down around Henderson, grew up down there lol. Anyways, if you ever see a dude in a Black 92 Mustang GT, and his name is Jeff, tell him Shans friend is still waitin on him to line it up....he'll know what I mean hehe. Anywho, I know this is way off topic but i just had to say thats cool and maybe I need to come down there and let u get a piece of the RS.

EDIT: BTW, you ever check out Liberty? I used to always go there and snag Camaro parts. They do have that great deal $100 any motor but theres no motors out there!

 

Sorry bro I thought you were speaking about my post... But that YZF600R is' quite the machine! ***** out accelleration, got's to be pretty carful....Mine's a Yamie also, but ~20 years older

 

haha there are black mustangs everywhere....be hard to find the right one i think, they are everywhere around here. one reason im not a big fan of mustangs(not that camaros are any more rare)

bring it on down ill run ya lol, yeah i went to liberty the other day theres never anything useful out there anymore. oh well

yeah my YZF will get up and go but i dont have second gear right now lol gotta get that fixed...however i did just learn how to do wheelies, now thats a rush...ive been down a few times but im still riding it strong. wish i had a good pic of it i would show ya

no matter how fast your guys's cars get, ive still got a machine that you cant touch =) and its a 4 banger haha joke

 

He could run that if he runs in track trim I'd imagine. (I've runa few 10.0's in humid hot TX summer weather) I was once outrun by a stock 3.1 5 spd as well, they pull much harder with a 5 spd, as these 700r4's aren't really geared for the V6 powerband. Just gut your car and run him Pills, I'm sure you can get him.

 

wish i could scan in my dyno graph...my tq numbers dont really ever go down, it starts around 1700 rpms with about 160ish tq and goes steadlily up untill it reaches peak at about 3700rpm and slowly comes back down, and the hp peaks just after the tq does...dunno if that makes sense its late lol

my first and second gears pull really freaking hard with the t-5 now, the auto doesnt even compare to it... for those of you that know of dowards problem with the turbo and not being able to use 1st and 2nd very well a lot of that i belvie is due to the tranny and how hard it pulls through those two gears, just a thought though,

wish i could gut my car to lose some weight, but its my daily driver still i need everything thats in it lol

 

All IC engines make peak HP past peak Tq. An LO3 will put down almost 100lb ft more at the RPM range you mentioned. Your T5 swap helped you the most.

 

and since horsepower is a math related figure and does nothing to accelerate the car by itself doesn't mean much


all it shows is again area under the curve is better which is what allows the lt1 to be faster

 

i'll say that the v6 will win. i've beat some 305s with my 3.1, N/A.

 

Your camaro sounds a bit quick though. I bet 305. Thats a big ol torque disadvantage to overcome.

 

Another retarted thread. The 305 will stomp the 3.1, end of story. Anyone who even doubts it is dreaming.

 

ams91 im sure would take the 305 in stock form no problem, im not to far behind what he has...but either way i dont think im gonna find out anytime soon, my car had an electrical problem on thursday night and i had to work through the holiday weekend so havent had chance to look at it....but dont worry i will race him soon as i get her running again

as for the comment about this thread being retarded...very helpful comment....

 

Hmmm, this is a tough one. Your car puts down about 20-30 less rwhp than a stock L03, and around 90-100 less rwtq than a stock L03, yet you still ask who will win. That's a hard one. I know you have a lot of hope in your 3.1, but use some common sense. This thread did not need to be posted.

 

with 50% less torque, and less hp, you dont have a prayer.

he should be a second quicker in the 1/4 ASSUMING his car is in good shape..

do the math, you'd need to be a lot more than 300lbs lighter to make up a 50% torque deficiency..

 

don't make me pull out the videos of my car. ...like the one where i PULLED a Z06 off the line at the track!! you can make what ever excuses you want for the vette but the fact of the matter is that in the fair and square race...i beat him bad off the line. he did beat me in the 1/4, i won't argue that but off the line...he was a car length or so back. on the street...the 305 has no prayer against this 3.1.

 

oh jeez

 

What he said.

 

LMAO yeah, I'm sure in the end, the vette was like oh crap, he beat me off the line, and my car is way better looking, handles better, accelerates fast enough to pull you into the seat.

was the vette in reverse? :lala:


to the original question, do you really think that GM would make a v6 camaro faster than a v8 of comparable years? yeah, that makes real sense

only chance you have is if it has 2 plug wires off or it's so out of tune

 

AM91Camaro, I've got video of me pulling a Viper off the line. Because he was paddling out so he wouldn't boil the tires off the line. That doesn't mean I beat him or that my car is faster.

Pillsbry10, I have a "4 banger" I'll run your "machine" with. Guarantee ya I'll smoke your Yamahaha

As for the original question... My money is on the V8

 

No prayer. Yea because a 100lb weight difference really makes up for the 100lb ft and 30+hp it lacks. The LO3 was a power upgrade option. Not downgrade.

 

Poor z06's, seems like a story about one getting 0wned comes out every day... Slowest car on the road if you base your knowledge on accounts of streetraces...

 

Two words: Remedial math.

Would answer this one handily.

 

Come on guys! It could happen!

I kicked a z06's *** off the line in my 2.2L cavalier just last night! Of course, he hadnt taken his foot off the BRAKE yet... But STILL!!!!

 

Admrl - No mercy!! Take that bad boy.... to 60 ft. then call it a race! :lamo:

 

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

HA HA HA HA........................

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

Youre trolling right????

 

Counts as a win! You did flash your hazard lights as you passed him right?

 

Maybe because his car makes power and he was actually spinning the tires, while your 15.8 monster left the line without so much as a peep from the tires?

C'mon now.

I had an '88 Formula with a 305 TBI engine and got SMOKED by TONS of cars, even some grocercy getters - hence the reason for the "had". For Christ sakes, my 4,000 pound daily driver would bitch slap a TBI-powered 3rd gen.

Keep on livin' your life 60 feet at a time. Maybe two of the "big ones" will give you a shot, provided your Corian TBI spacer doesn't break it's welds.

 

I think you are confusing members now.

 

My bad. Maybe I was thinking of the IAT resistor "mod".

 

Prsshh. Nahhh... Right after my mad phat win to the 60 footer, that vette blasted on by me like i wasnt even movin. Pimp musta thought i waz still racin yo! Someone should tell dat fo' the race only counts to the point where im still winnin!

Oh, i have a 2.2 with a cold air intake. Oh but prshh... I took the seats and carpet out dawg! Plus i only have half a engine, so its gotta be quicker cuz it weighs less! :hail:

 

What color is the Mad Cav? 'cause you know a black car weighs more than a white car

 

Sh<x>it dawg! Its black!

O, but in all seriousness... The emblems all fell off, and the paint is flaking too. So i be savin some weight there!

 

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