91RSHawaii

I caught a redlight w/ a blue, brand new golf R32, hadn't seen one before, and looked over n gave him a thumbs up.. typical euro-trashricer flicks me off, starts revving. (his car was full w/ four people) Light turns green, i dump the clutch, and jump out ahead of him, by 50 mph ive got some noticable distance on him, but not much, he was pretty close, when I shut down... then he does the typical fly by w/ hazards.

Im not too sure how fast they are supposed to run, but it was one of the most fun races ive had in a while. (heh, ive raced like 3 times in my life)

On second thought, maybe he was a really ****ty driver... idk.

jocww

well lets see he had 4 people u had 1 and u barely won i ont know if he had only him in the car you might be bowing down rite about now

anondude13

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Orr89RocZ

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congrats and that kid is a tool. Give him some credit and he flicks you off. Then has nerve to put on hazzards after he lost? what a moron for acting like that.

What do those R32's got in them?

stu

At least you beat him though. Lucky his car was full.

Orr89RocZ

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http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=8006

0-60 in 6.4 Similar to 1.8T golf

240 horses at 6250 rpm 236lbft from 2800-3200 rpm.
3400lbs, 300 heavier than VR6

capable of .90 g on skidpad so Iroc's beware, this thing will run with you if not beat you stock. LOL

moves good. but L98 should walk it

ThraxXx

The R32 is a Fat heavy AWD VR6. Aparently VW made a big hype about them however people with a Chipped 1.8T have been known to school these overpriced GTI wannabes.

The Doc

They are very nice to drive, great fun but rather over priced if you ask me. They tend to understeer pretty bad too.

One over thing they have that no stock thirdgen does...... fantastic brakes!

MdFormula350

yeah nothing to ride home about, my friend beat one pretty gppd and he runs mid 14s to low at the track. from a light and a roll.
i also agree they seem quite expensive also.

91RSHawaii

hehe, well i had a pretty ****ty launch, (broken torque arm bushing) and ive driven stick for less than two months.. so granted my car couldve hammered him harder, but it was interesting to race such a hyped up car, and realize that its ***** arent as huge as the pricetag.

anyone else have any experience racing these?

MrDude_1

my 2000 jetta with the same VR6 was faster.


mostly because, the golf looks small, but with the AWD, leather, ect... that comes with the R32, it weighs 3200+ lbs... in otherwords, our 3rdgens are about the same weight.

it has somthing like 240-250 horses and 245-255 TQ... they're slightly under rated from VW.

if you're intrested in motors, look into the VR6 and the W8 that VW has, they're very intresting designs.

Orr89RocZ

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Its 7 grand more than base VR6!

MrDude_1

whats a "base Vr6"?

the VR6 is a engine.
you can get it in several cars.
do you mean the GTI?

Orr89RocZ

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Car N Driver quote:

"Like the R32's curb weight, this number, too, is a little heavy—$29,675, or $7030 more than the base price for a GTI VR6, and comparable to the WRX STi and the Evo"

I meant base price for GTI VR6

stu

With AWD this kid should have smoked you out of the hole, but we've already determined that he can't drive.

Mcdamit

Thats heavier then my iroc---------- im not worried nice power four a 4 banger stock

stu

It's not a four banger. lol

MrDude_1

VR6 = V6.

and since its a MODERN motor, compared to, i donno, what they designed in the early 80s, it ends up making just as much power, STOCK, as..... say a TPI V8.

stu

Just because it's modern, doesn't mean it's hightech. coughLS1cough. The NSX has basically had the same motor for the last 15 years.

MrDude_1

duh.
now go research the motor. look at the variable intake tract length plastic intake. the valve train, hell the whole motor has so many nice design details id take me all day do describe them all.

it is a modern, hightech production motor.

Orr89RocZ

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uhh, the LS1 is real high tech

Edit, dang, you beat me to it! LOL

stu

I'm sure it is...for a pushrod.

anondude13

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stu

I'm just giving you guys a hard time you big baby. No wonder they keep such a tight leash on you guys over here, no one knows how to behave like an adult. Didn't you see the wink and the tongue?

Orr89RocZ

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:lala:

25thmustang

I wouldnt call an LS1 high tech, but then again DOHC motors have now been around for a LONG time. I would soon enough say a motor is more technologically advanced by the computer than the actual workings of the motor, merely because everything out today has more or less been out for many years now. Nothing wrong with a non high tech motor, some of the fastest have carbs!!!

stu

I know, I was just giving you guys a hard time. I hope no one else comes in here trying to defend the LS1 (not saying that you are 25th).

25thmustang

Im not defending it by any means, the last LS1 I was supposed to race at the track (like me drive the car, not my car race) bent pushrods, and had a bad EGR leak. I have not met someone who hasent had an issue with one (personal friends, Im sure I have met people who havent had issues), just saying in my eyes most engines have been around and repeated so many times, they just arent modern or that high tech anymore!

stu

True, in fact the only ones I can think of are the new RX-8 rotary motor, the new Mustang motor that is supposed to be coming out where Ford purchased some of Honda's VTEC technology, the new I-VTEC stuff from Honda, and the newest BMW motors with infinitely variable valve timing, very cool if you ask me.

Street Lethal

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I hear what you're saying 25, but then you have to ask yourself.... does it really even matter?

I mean, the 2004 Z06 has proven to run high 11's naturally aspirated from the factory.... yet I never seen the 'High Tech' LT5 run those numbers, stock.

Orr89RocZ

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I am sure it has tho

Street Lethal

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Very possible. But to tell you the truth, every Corvette challenge that I frequented, the stock ZR1's usually ran mid-high 12's (which is a very impressive number, for an early to mid 90's.... straight from the factory, Corvette).

But still though, the Z06 dominates the ZR1.... even with it's pre-historic pushrods.

25thmustang

It doesnt matter, that means the proven combos are working...

Orr89RocZ

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Some people i know driven both the LS6 Z06 and the LT5 ZR1's and say they are about the same. They like the Lt5 cuz it revs higher but Z06 is lighter buy like 300 pounds. LOL Your right, most Zr1's are mid high 12's with the later 93-95 versions being the quicker. The Z06 is faster and i dont think a Zr1 could break 11's stock after reading up on some ZR1 forums.

jocww

for all out performance you cant beat a carb the fastest cars will always be running carbs. thats why theyre making ls1 manifolds that bolt on to carbs instead of fi altho id rather have fi just for the gas mileage and part throttle. but ft will always be won by the carb

ShiftyCapone

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This is debatable but I know what you mean. They really make the carb intake for the LS1 so that old school tuners and racers can use these motors and not have to worry about tuning them. It appeals to a wider band of automotive racers. The "real" EFI guys are outnumbered by carb guys. The LS1 and LT1 can make just as much power with their EFI set-ups as with a carb. The only thing that sets them apart is price. You cannot beat the price of a carb set-up. It is how you go fast for cheap.

As a side note. In the world of IC engines only engines with overhead valves are considered "high performance". That does not mean that engines do not have tons of technology poured into them. It is just a word that designates certain spark ignition engines. A 100hp DOHC motor is considered high performance but a 700HP LS1 is not. Whpo would have figured. The LS1 was ahead of its time really. Only now are other car comapanies able to duplicate certian desing and performance features of the LS1. They started development in 1991 I beleive. To put this in perspective, ford now uses the LS1 intake (A slightly different version) and the HEMI is almost a carbon copy of the LS1. It only took them 7+ years to get there and in the end they all had to copy it.

fly89gta

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Good kill.

On a side note the R32's are overpriced pieces of ****.