Mustang GT takes on 91 Z28
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HEY STU GET A REAL CAR............. IT FIGURE A GUY DRIVING A INTEGRA WOULD SAY HP ISN'T EVERYTHING WHAT A JOKE
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Originally posted by m8d2run
HEY STU GET A REAL CAR............. IT FIGURE A GUY DRIVING A INTEGRA WOULD SAY HP ISN'T EVERYTHING WHAT A JOKE
HEY STU GET A REAL CAR............. IT FIGURE A GUY DRIVING A INTEGRA WOULD SAY HP ISN'T EVERYTHING WHAT A JOKE
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i DOUBT THAT VERY SERIOUSLY AND BESIDES HE INSULTED ME FIRST, I DON'T NEED TO GROW UP, I'M PROBABLY OLDER THAN YOU OR HIM. AND IF YOU GET PISSED OFF BECAUSE SOMEBODY CALLED YOU DUMBASS IN REFERRING TO A STATEMENT THEN YOU TRULLY NEED TO GROW UP YOUNG MAN.
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i dont belive he was trying to insult you...but truley, hp isnt everything. weight, tranny, tires ect ect.... these all play a role in getting a car to go...and when he said grow..he wasnt refering t your age...
P.S : take the caps off...
P.S : take the caps off...
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Boy I tell you, you guys are pretty weak....I should be banned.
learn how to converse without letting your emotions get the best of you. We are talking about mustang vs chevy..
disagree with the statement don't attack me or I'll attack back
learn how to converse without letting your emotions get the best of you. We are talking about mustang vs chevy..
disagree with the statement don't attack me or I'll attack back
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i wasnt attacking you, but if you wanna get dramatic...shifty will probabaly lock this later anyway...your the one who couldnt take hearing anything againt chevy...
truth be told a stock cobra would probabaly beat a stock thirdgen Z (not acounting for drivers)
so before you go calling any member a dumb ***...check youself...your the n00b remember?
truth be told a stock cobra would probabaly beat a stock thirdgen Z (not acounting for drivers)
so before you go calling any member a dumb ***...check youself...your the n00b remember?
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depending on how your racing, hp isn't that important. but from stop light to stop light or 1/4 as in the video, you better bring some hp or your going to get your but handed to you.
and seriously if you pull up next to someone and they wanna got do you honestly think they care if you holler out hp isn't everything???????
and seriously if you pull up next to someone and they wanna got do you honestly think they care if you holler out hp isn't everything???????
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noob only on this board, and yes stock for stock the cobra would win but as in my case I pulled on him on the freeway......
it doesn't bother me if someone knocks a chevy.......who cares
I'm stating my opinion as is everyone else on this board.
like i said get back to the topic and get off me.
it doesn't bother me if someone knocks a chevy.......who cares
I'm stating my opinion as is everyone else on this board.
like i said get back to the topic and get off me.
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Originally posted by m8d2run
BESIDES HE INSULTED ME FIRST, I DON'T NEED TO GROW UP,
BESIDES HE INSULTED ME FIRST, I DON'T NEED TO GROW UP,
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hard feelings not at all, love to talk and debate it just cracks me up when people holler hp isn't everything.....
the video was matching a cobra against a z28. HP matters a great deal as well as driver reaction traction gearing suspension
etc........but bring hp and no excuses
the video was matching a cobra against a z28. HP matters a great deal as well as driver reaction traction gearing suspension
etc........but bring hp and no excuses
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Man, some good action here!
You all are forgetting what makes TPI great....
TORQUE!!
From a stoplight, thats the stuff you want to bring!! Get the car moving, and rocket out of first gear!! Surprised no one mentioned that. HP sells, but torque wins races. Write that down! LOL Behold the power of Torque.
If indeed it was a cobra, chances are that Camaro was mildly modded. Cuz cobras are close to high 13 second cars. That L98 camaro, if it was and L98, would only need decent gears, full exhaust, and CAI to hang with that stang. But stang should get him in the long run.
You all are forgetting what makes TPI great....
TORQUE!!
From a stoplight, thats the stuff you want to bring!! Get the car moving, and rocket out of first gear!! Surprised no one mentioned that. HP sells, but torque wins races. Write that down! LOL Behold the power of Torque.
If indeed it was a cobra, chances are that Camaro was mildly modded. Cuz cobras are close to high 13 second cars. That L98 camaro, if it was and L98, would only need decent gears, full exhaust, and CAI to hang with that stang. But stang should get him in the long run.
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You can't have torque without HP. They go hand in hand. When you increase one, the other increases as well. They key is to make the most of both over the largest possible power curve.
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well dumb *** people that buy muscle cars aren't worried about the warranty....speed matters with these cars. And for a serious speed fan the car won't stay stock long regardless of what car you buy as long as it passes smog
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You can't have torque without HP. They go hand in hand. When you increase one, the other increases as well. They key is to make the most of both over the largest possible power curve
TPI producing 300hp will make over 400lbft of torque. Probly closer to 500lbft. But that cobra pushing 305 is only making 300 lb feet or so. Thats a big difference and shows you can make more torque with same or less hp. Variance is there depending on intake design and cam profiles.
I guess the cubes add up to make torque, but even similar motors with different intake designs will make different hp/torque numbers.
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megaracerx, Hp and Tq dont always win races either. My car makes 270 hp, and 315 tq, but I can tell you it has put a hurting on cars with a bunch more power. Too many people focus on the peak numbers, not the actual curve of power, which actually matters more...
And you take a $29,000 Camaro, Ill take my $3500 car, add only $20,000 to it, run 9s, and then take my GF out for a hell of a night! That is my biggest pet pieve, you cannot compare costs of two cars equally, especially used to new, never going to be equal!
Also Im sure Stus car is faster, it might be an Integra, but I do believe he has close to, if not more power than me! Cant knock a guy for having a fast car no matter what brand it is!
Funn yhr guy calling them crustangs and making fun of them conviniently doesnt have any info about his car in a sig... Im sure it runs mid 11s and puts a hurting on most "M"ustangs out there!!!
And you take a $29,000 Camaro, Ill take my $3500 car, add only $20,000 to it, run 9s, and then take my GF out for a hell of a night! That is my biggest pet pieve, you cannot compare costs of two cars equally, especially used to new, never going to be equal!
Also Im sure Stus car is faster, it might be an Integra, but I do believe he has close to, if not more power than me! Cant knock a guy for having a fast car no matter what brand it is!
Funn yhr guy calling them crustangs and making fun of them conviniently doesnt have any info about his car in a sig... Im sure it runs mid 11s and puts a hurting on most "M"ustangs out there!!!
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Originally posted by Orr89RocZ
TPI producing 300hp will make over 400lbft of torque. Probly closer to 500lbft. But that cobra pushing 305 is only making 300 lb feet or so. Thats a big difference and shows you can make more torque with same or less hp. Variance is there depending on intake design and cam profiles.
TPI producing 300hp will make over 400lbft of torque. Probly closer to 500lbft. But that cobra pushing 305 is only making 300 lb feet or so. Thats a big difference and shows you can make more torque with same or less hp. Variance is there depending on intake design and cam profiles.
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Wow, is this site bookmarked on EVERY high school computer? Dont knock the new cobra just cause its fast. Who cares if you dont like it? Its still fast. And in the grown up world, like stu said, people dont pay 30K for a car, and then void the warranty by installing a SuperCharger. Oh yeah, if the "crustang" is so bad and your camaro idea is so good, you should do that. Of course, I guess it would be hard to get a new camaro, since they quit making them. Notice they didnt quit making "crustangs."
Wow, is this site bookmarked on EVERY high school computer? Dont knock the new cobra just cause its fast. Who cares if you dont like it? Its still fast. And in the grown up world, like stu said, people dont pay 30K for a car, and then void the warranty by installing a SuperCharger. Oh yeah, if the "crustang" is so bad and your camaro idea is so good, you should do that. Of course, I guess it would be hard to get a new camaro, since they quit making them. Notice they didnt quit making "crustangs."
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Actually....plenty of people do that. Warranties do not get void from installing a mod. I believe the dealer will not service the actual modification or anything pertaining to it (intake cracks or something). There was a law passed just for this reason. You think they will null my warranty if I throw headers on a car? Pfffft.
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Originally posted by 25thmustang
megaracerx, Hp and Tq dont always win races either. My car makes 270 hp, and 315 tq, but I can tell you it has put a hurting on cars with a bunch more power. Too many people focus on the peak numbers, not the actual curve of power, which actually matters more...
And you take a $29,000 Camaro, Ill take my $3500 car, add only $20,000 to it, run 9s, and then take my GF out for a hell of a night! That is my biggest pet pieve, you cannot compare costs of two cars equally, especially used to new, never going to be equal!
Also Im sure Stus car is faster, it might be an Integra, but I do believe he has close to, if not more power than me! Cant knock a guy for having a fast car no matter what brand it is!
Funn yhr guy calling them crustangs and making fun of them conviniently doesnt have any info about his car in a sig... Im sure it runs mid 11s and puts a hurting on most "M"ustangs out there!!!
megaracerx, Hp and Tq dont always win races either. My car makes 270 hp, and 315 tq, but I can tell you it has put a hurting on cars with a bunch more power. Too many people focus on the peak numbers, not the actual curve of power, which actually matters more...
And you take a $29,000 Camaro, Ill take my $3500 car, add only $20,000 to it, run 9s, and then take my GF out for a hell of a night! That is my biggest pet pieve, you cannot compare costs of two cars equally, especially used to new, never going to be equal!
Also Im sure Stus car is faster, it might be an Integra, but I do believe he has close to, if not more power than me! Cant knock a guy for having a fast car no matter what brand it is!
Funn yhr guy calling them crustangs and making fun of them conviniently doesnt have any info about his car in a sig... Im sure it runs mid 11s and puts a hurting on most "M"ustangs out there!!!
You drive a mustang, nya nya nya.
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You gotta be one of the most civil and intelligent guys on the board (despite the whole mustang thing ). Your absolutely right, the power curve is far more important than peak horse power. A lot of people forget the most important mod when going to a race also....the drive mod.
As far as stu goes, I think the guy is too ignorant to be taken seriously. He blows his lid and opens his mouth without thinking only to apologize later for it.
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Headers no, A supercharger YES! And if you doubt that ask the dealer in your town, I have a friend that DID! He was specifically told, and in the fine print shown, where it said that it would void the drivetrain warranty to install a super charger. PFFFFFFFTTTT. Have you asked a dealer, or are you talking out of your ***? Bet i can guess which one. If they void the warranty on your drivetrain, whats that leave you with? Not many people do it.
Headers no, A supercharger YES! And if you doubt that ask the dealer in your town, I have a friend that DID! He was specifically told, and in the fine print shown, where it said that it would void the drivetrain warranty to install a super charger. PFFFFFFFTTTT. Have you asked a dealer, or are you talking out of your ***? Bet i can guess which one. If they void the warranty on your drivetrain, whats that leave you with? Not many people do it.
http://www.duramaximizer.com/magnuson_moss.htm
So why don't you go explain to your friend how he was coined out of his warranty because he dealt with a shady dealer.
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He wasnt coined out of his warranty, he didnt buy the vehicle because of it.
If you want to take a chance because of what you read at the link that you posted, thats your choice, go ahead. I havent seen a manufacturer yet that will warranty an engine when a customer installs a super charger.
And you are going to call me childish? With your little pfft posts, and calling people ignorant? People who live in glass houses........
If you want to take a chance because of what you read at the link that you posted, thats your choice, go ahead. I havent seen a manufacturer yet that will warranty an engine when a customer installs a super charger.
And you are going to call me childish? With your little pfft posts, and calling people ignorant? People who live in glass houses........
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Originally posted by ljnowell
He wasnt coined out of his warranty, he didnt buy the vehicle because of it.
If you want to take a chance because of what you read at the link that you posted, thats your choice, go ahead. I havent seen a manufacturer yet that will warranty an engine when a customer installs a super charger.
And you are going to call me childish? With your little pfft posts, and calling people ignorant? People who live in glass houses........
He wasnt coined out of his warranty, he didnt buy the vehicle because of it.
If you want to take a chance because of what you read at the link that you posted, thats your choice, go ahead. I havent seen a manufacturer yet that will warranty an engine when a customer installs a super charger.
And you are going to call me childish? With your little pfft posts, and calling people ignorant? People who live in glass houses........
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Another link from the FTC's website:
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/...#Magnuson-Moss
Educate yourself:
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/...s/warranty.htm
I understand you'll never admit your wrong and thats okay, I already know im the better man. I've tried speaking with you in a civil manner but it seems you just like to cause trouble.
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/...#Magnuson-Moss
Educate yourself:
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/...s/warranty.htm
I understand you'll never admit your wrong and thats okay, I already know im the better man. I've tried speaking with you in a civil manner but it seems you just like to cause trouble.
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Point out where I called you a name, and i will give a formal apology right here, right now. Go ahead. I am not getting mad, I know the truth. More talk of ignorance on your part, though. Its OK, I dont mind what you post. The law does not stipulate anything, ANYTHING, about the fine print stating that if you install devices such as a supercharger it will void your warranty. The law does say that this has to be disclosed in the paperwork. Which is exactly where it was. I dont seem to follow your train of thought. Of course they cant void your warranty without putting it in writing prior to the sale, or specifying it prior to the sale. I dont see where any of what you posted contradicts this.
The Law says the warranty must be clearly defined and obeyed. It was. That was part of the warranty. If you cant post anything relevant to that argument, then quit posting on this topic.
The Law says the warranty must be clearly defined and obeyed. It was. That was part of the warranty. If you cant post anything relevant to that argument, then quit posting on this topic.
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Creating a strawman are we? I was quite on the topic of the argument, but thats okay i'll stop, I think your last post pretty much sums it up and I won't ruin the thread for the topic poster.
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I understand you'll never admit your wrong and thats okay, I already know im the better man.
You havent posted any proof of anything. You posted pages stating a manufacturer must disclose all portions of a warranty and abide by it. No one has argued that. The point is, installation of a supercharger on a new car will void the warranty. Its stated prior to sale, so no law is broken.
after all, pasky,
I Understand that you'll never admit your wrong and thats okay, I already know I'm the better man. I've tried speaking with you in a civil manner but it seems you just like to cause trouble
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You didnt sum up anything, you lost an argument.
Its like arguing with John Kerry, no matter what you win!
edit: I think it summed it up too, read the fine print, instead of listening to people on the internet. How did that fuel door install go anyway?
Its like arguing with John Kerry, no matter what you win!
edit: I think it summed it up too, read the fine print, instead of listening to people on the internet. How did that fuel door install go anyway?
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My close buddy has an new 02 SS. He cannot install headers or it will void his warrenty. He has it in writting. He can do suspension however so he went that route for the next few years instead. LS1 guys will sometimes swap to an LS6 cam so that they can get a little power boost without the dealer detecting any changes to the engine. When they hook the sanner and such to the car the readouts are basically the same between the cams. Anything more radical and their hopes of having the car fixed on the generals tab can be thrown out the window. Lets not fight. I am sure every dealer is different in some areas.
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No sir, I did not lose, I refuse to argue with someone who will bring up pointless arguments in an attempt to feel he is not foolish. No one cares what you think about Kerry and yes it is you who brings him up in every argument you have. Does he have any relevence? No none at all at this site. So why do you bring him up and accuse me of getting off the argument? I showed you factual evidence of warranty laws that dealerships must abide by. You showed me??? A friends story .
If it makes you feel better thinking you won this "argument" if that is what you call this non-sensual rambling coming from your end, sure, take the whole cake.
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Originally posted by ShiftyCapone
My close buddy has an new 02 SS. He cannot install headers or it will void his warrenty. He has it in writting. He can do suspension however so he went that route for the next few years instead. LS1 guys will sometimes swap to an LS6 cam so that they can get a little power boost without the dealer detecting any changes to the engine. When they hook the sanner and such to the car the readouts are basically the same between the cams. Anything more radical and their hopes of having the car fixed on the generals tab can be thrown out the window. Lets not fight. I am sure every dealer is different in some areas.
My close buddy has an new 02 SS. He cannot install headers or it will void his warrenty. He has it in writting. He can do suspension however so he went that route for the next few years instead. LS1 guys will sometimes swap to an LS6 cam so that they can get a little power boost without the dealer detecting any changes to the engine. When they hook the sanner and such to the car the readouts are basically the same between the cams. Anything more radical and their hopes of having the car fixed on the generals tab can be thrown out the window. Lets not fight. I am sure every dealer is different in some areas.
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I know for a fact that SLP or some company leased a 02 camaro SS and modded the hell out of it. It ran 11's and they had a C5R block in it. Nothing remained stock anymore, so what do they do when the lease is up? LMAO Buy it I guess, but i am sure they would love to take the car back. LOL
Anyway, warranties as i understood dealt with stock components and a supercharger would add LOTS OF STRESS to the drivetrain. That would make sense not to cover that cuz its not originally equipted. Car wasnt made for it so thats why they shouldnt cover it under the warranty.
One kid i know had a celica and modded it and voided the warranty on his motor.
Anyway again, the DOHC and conventional GM pushrod V8's have differences and cant be compared but think about this.
350 L98 TPI stock is about 245hp 345 torque.
Add a miniram intake ONLY and you get like 270hp and maybe around same torque if not less like 325lb feet torque.
Although the curve is different, still, power is made and torque output decreases or stays the same. so its possible to have many different power numbers given a motor with different setups. Add a 4x4 cam to TPI and look out torque!! Turbo cars can make sick torque while maintaining low hp.
hot rod did a story i think of two chevelles turbocharged. one produced 700lb feet torque!! but a mere 350hp. Wow
Anyway, warranties as i understood dealt with stock components and a supercharger would add LOTS OF STRESS to the drivetrain. That would make sense not to cover that cuz its not originally equipted. Car wasnt made for it so thats why they shouldnt cover it under the warranty.
One kid i know had a celica and modded it and voided the warranty on his motor.
Anyway again, the DOHC and conventional GM pushrod V8's have differences and cant be compared but think about this.
350 L98 TPI stock is about 245hp 345 torque.
Add a miniram intake ONLY and you get like 270hp and maybe around same torque if not less like 325lb feet torque.
Although the curve is different, still, power is made and torque output decreases or stays the same. so its possible to have many different power numbers given a motor with different setups. Add a 4x4 cam to TPI and look out torque!! Turbo cars can make sick torque while maintaining low hp.
hot rod did a story i think of two chevelles turbocharged. one produced 700lb feet torque!! but a mere 350hp. Wow
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Toyota warranties their supercharger, but only if it's the TRD one and the dealer (or other authorized dealer of the charger) installs it.
I've also heard all kinds of stories about people no receiving service at dealerships simply from having an open air element filter. I think it's crap, but that's what one Cobra owner told me, not on-line either, it was face to face at the track. That doesn't mean he knew what he was talking about though.
About me appologizing, I have noticed that I do that, and there are two reasons.
1) I'm used to boards where that is the norm. Depending on how long you've been frequenting web boards, you may or may not know this, but I'll tell you anyway. Someone flaming me on another board, and someone just being confused about something I said and adding an exclimation point to the end looks exactly the same in text. People lose the ability to express their intentions through body lanuguage and vocal tones on the internet, so it all looks the same.
2) On other boards, it doesn't matter what you say (to an extent) but here, people get offended easier, and the rules are a little stricter, so sometimes an appology is in order. Otherwise, I wouldn't care. Ambiguity allows me to have some people think that I'm an *** without me losing any sleep over it. Sorry.
Just kidding, I'm not.
I've also heard all kinds of stories about people no receiving service at dealerships simply from having an open air element filter. I think it's crap, but that's what one Cobra owner told me, not on-line either, it was face to face at the track. That doesn't mean he knew what he was talking about though.
About me appologizing, I have noticed that I do that, and there are two reasons.
1) I'm used to boards where that is the norm. Depending on how long you've been frequenting web boards, you may or may not know this, but I'll tell you anyway. Someone flaming me on another board, and someone just being confused about something I said and adding an exclimation point to the end looks exactly the same in text. People lose the ability to express their intentions through body lanuguage and vocal tones on the internet, so it all looks the same.
2) On other boards, it doesn't matter what you say (to an extent) but here, people get offended easier, and the rules are a little stricter, so sometimes an appology is in order. Otherwise, I wouldn't care. Ambiguity allows me to have some people think that I'm an *** without me losing any sleep over it. Sorry.
Just kidding, I'm not.
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Originally posted by Orr89RocZ
Anyway again, the DOHC and conventional GM pushrod V8's have differences and cant be compared but think about this.
350 L98 TPI stock is about 245hp 345 torque.
Add a miniram intake ONLY and you get like 270hp and maybe around same torque if not less like 325lb feet torque.
Although the curve is different, still, power is made and torque output decreases or stays the same. so its possible to have many different power numbers given a motor with different setups. Add a 4x4 cam to TPI and look out torque!! Turbo cars can make sick torque while maintaining low hp.
Anyway again, the DOHC and conventional GM pushrod V8's have differences and cant be compared but think about this.
350 L98 TPI stock is about 245hp 345 torque.
Add a miniram intake ONLY and you get like 270hp and maybe around same torque if not less like 325lb feet torque.
Although the curve is different, still, power is made and torque output decreases or stays the same. so its possible to have many different power numbers given a motor with different setups. Add a 4x4 cam to TPI and look out torque!! Turbo cars can make sick torque while maintaining low hp.
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thanks for the clarification and i understand how torque and hp equall at 5250 rpms based on that equation. I was talkin bout peak numbers which really dont mean as much as curve numbers. But you understand what i was saying about the different combos making different power numbers? I probly just stated it wrong or unclear.
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Peak numbers manipulate the curve numbers though. There are a lot of muscle car guys over on H-T who were just talking about this. They were all saying that they'd much rather have 300 ft/lbs of torque for the whole power band (with a higher redline and higher peak power) than 400 ft/lbs of torque for only 200rpm. I think they have a point, what good is huge torque if you can only use it for like 1-2 seconds? These were Camaro guys as well.
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Peak numbers manipulate the curve numbers though. There are a lot of muscle car guys over on H-T who were just talking about this. They were all saying that they'd much rather have 300 ft/lbs of torque for the whole power band (with a higher redline and higher peak power) than 400 ft/lbs of torque for only 200rpm. I think they have a point, what good is huge torque if you can only use it for like 1-2 seconds? These were Camaro guys as well.
Peak numbers manipulate the curve numbers though. There are a lot of muscle car guys over on H-T who were just talking about this. They were all saying that they'd much rather have 300 ft/lbs of torque for the whole power band (with a higher redline and higher peak power) than 400 ft/lbs of torque for only 200rpm. I think they have a point, what good is huge torque if you can only use it for like 1-2 seconds? These were Camaro guys as well.
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i was responding to the comment hp isn't everything. torque and hp go hand in hand u can make gobs of torque like tpi's do but with only 245 hp and the peak being a very low 4400 rpms, the torque will get u out the hole but u need that hp to keep that mass moving... and IRT the crustang stuff thats all talk that shouldn't be taken seriously, this stuff has been going on for a long time thats why its a MUSCLE CAR WAR
i like mustangs also but i drive a chevy and proud of it and i bash the other for fun. i bash imports, and i own a 03 jetta vr6, and a 01 yukon XL....its all fun and games lighten up and have fun:lala:
i like mustangs also but i drive a chevy and proud of it and i bash the other for fun. i bash imports, and i own a 03 jetta vr6, and a 01 yukon XL....its all fun and games lighten up and have fun:lala:
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Originally posted by m8d2run
i was responding to the comment hp isn't everything. torque and hp go hand in hand u can make gobs of torque like tpi's do but with only 245 hp and the peak being a very low 4400 rpms, the torque will get u out the hole but u need that hp to keep that mass moving... and IRT the crustang stuff thats all talk that shouldn't be taken seriously, this stuff has been going on for a long time thats why its a MUSCLE CAR WAR
i like mustangs also but i drive a chevy and proud of it and i bash the other for fun. i bash imports, and i own a 03 jetta vr6, and a 01 yukon XL....its all fun and games lighten up and have fun:lala:
i was responding to the comment hp isn't everything. torque and hp go hand in hand u can make gobs of torque like tpi's do but with only 245 hp and the peak being a very low 4400 rpms, the torque will get u out the hole but u need that hp to keep that mass moving... and IRT the crustang stuff thats all talk that shouldn't be taken seriously, this stuff has been going on for a long time thats why its a MUSCLE CAR WAR
i like mustangs also but i drive a chevy and proud of it and i bash the other for fun. i bash imports, and i own a 03 jetta vr6, and a 01 yukon XL....its all fun and games lighten up and have fun:lala:
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My close buddy has an new 02 SS. He cannot install headers or it will void his warrenty. He has it in writting. He can do suspension however so he went that route for the next few years instead. LS1 guys will sometimes swap to an LS6 cam so that they can get a little power boost without the dealer detecting any changes to the engine. When they hook the sanner and such to the car the readouts are basically the same between the cams. Anything more radical and their hopes of having the car fixed on the generals tab can be thrown out the window. Lets not fight. I am sure every dealer is different in some areas.
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Anything more radical and their hopes of having the car fixed on the generals tab can be thrown out the window.
Anything more radical and their hopes of having the car fixed on the generals tab can be thrown out the window.
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