how fast is the average dodge stealth, i heard they come with AWD and Twin Turbo set ups on 3.0L v-6's.... that's really fast isn't it? especially compared to my low 15 second LG4.... any thoughts on how a race like this would turn out?

 

The stealths had 3 engine options, all V6...one had 166 hp (slow as dirt) another with 222 (slightly less slow but could take an LG4 i think) and then the turbo model which has 300 something hp I believe which you should watch out for...

 

OK the VR-4 (turbo'd v6) is the only one you have to really look out for. The other two are fwd and under powered for the cars huge weight (the vr-4 is even kinda slow, especially off the line). You don't need to worry about the first two (low 15's should take a reasonibly well driven 222hp version). If one falls behind and then takes off after about 20mph or so, then that would deffinantly be a vr-4.

 

I wouldn't call the Stealth R/T slow off they line. With decent tires and a little work I've seen them jump like *****.

 

I know they aren't slow, but for the amount of power they have they should be faster.

 

not trying to jack the thread but dont want to make one soo similar to urs. my buudy's buying/bought a tyrbo AWD steath 5 spd and wants to race me as soon as he gets it. im a stock L98. whats ur guys take on the future race?

 

not exactly true!........a good buddy of mine has an lg4 5 spd and we raced some old school buds in a stealth R/T from about a 20 roll and walked it up to about 100!......no jokes all my bud has is hedders and hooker catback....no cat and a k&n!.....depends on ur mods and his but i have seena turbo stealth go very quick off the line....race him from a roll and u should have a better chance.

as for the l98 i think you will win unless hes pushin high psi.

 

I think an L98 will take it. More torque, less weight, shouldn't have any problem off the line, even if it does have AWD. might start pulling later on, but I think you'll take it.

 

I've never seen the 300 horse ones but my friend with a celica can run even with a stealth with the good v6220+ hp. My friend has in take and exhaust. It will be close if your auto and I think you'll win if your 5-sp.

 

Guranteed that the stealth\3000 GT VR4 models with the turbo's with the AWD and AWD turning abilities... if it's just a drag race from a stop he willl rip you a new one off the line- no joke I've seen a stock AWD Subaru WRX STI kill a lingenfelter stage 2 vette off the line... yes the vette won but, that vette ain't no 15 second car... I think if you take him from a rolling start.. say around 20.. to 25 mph and ease into it and not mash the accelerator you can take him in the long run.. But no doubt he's going to pull on you hard until you get to your power-band.... I could go on about how to aproach this race but with the odds against you... from a rolling start you can take him... it will be close but I think you'll take him...

 

I saw a 4th gen v6 whoop up on a 3000gt last night.

 

I've driven the 166 hp model and it's just a dog off the line. Also rode in a friend of mine's 3000 GT VR4 with some mods done to it, that thing was crazy Sold that and he got a Viper, even more crazy ride in that hehehe. 140+ mph on the front straight at Thunderhill in Willows.

 

If it's the R/T, he will get you from a stop if he can launch it (and depending on your gears). Even if you go from a roll, the twin turbo will get you. From a roll, the lower hp ones could get you too. Use your torque to your advantage. As for an L98; go from a stop, and launch hard. Should be close, but the farther the race, the less of a chance you have. Sounds like you have some good gears Dingley, because your stock 1/4 mile time is damn fast for an LG4. That is in the LB9 or L69 range.

~Matt

 

yea, it is.. but i want to be in LS1 range.. haha..

 

its a great place to be

 

well my friend backed out on the stealth but is getting a 6 spd LTI...there goes all my hopes of winning. maybe ill get him the first day he gets his car. new driver to stcik. hehhehe

 

there is a stealth R/T and a stealth R/T TT (same as VR4)....they have 276hp if i remember properly....they are heavy, but can be made into monsters

 

whats the deal with those spoilers?!?!
If I ever got one of those that would have to be the first thing to go, How do the TT 300zx's compare to the TT stealth?

 

A VR4 is not slow off the line, its got AWD and 300hp. Whether or not its 'as fast as it should be' is irrelevent, I dont think there are too many 305s that will take one off the line.

The AWD becomes parasitic on the top end, excessive drivetrain train loss really slows those cars down, I believe its in the neighborhood of 30%, so even if its making 300hp, its only putting 200 to the ground. Bottom line, an RT TT Stealth will run about a mid 14, so yes it will probably beat a 15sec car.

 

"Bottom line, an RT TT Stealth will run about a mid 14, so yes it will probably beat a 15sec car."


Not to be a jerk or anything, but the Stealth TT will run 13's easy...My brother has a stock '91 Stealth TT and it runs a 13.5...high 13's with granny shifts.

As for top end, he can run with an LS1...So prepared to get raped.

As for the comment "no joke I've seen a stock AWD Subaru WRX STI kill a lingenfelter stage 2 vette off the line"

Apparently the dude drivin the vette can't drive

With as much HP as lingerfelters vetts put out, you have all the hp and tq you need to jump out of the hole and beat any AWD car.

AWD is very good on the street, but remember when it comes down to it, rear wheel is still king. Less weight, and less friction in the front.

-Mace

 

Ok maybe you're just retarded, AWD = more traction = better off the line. A corvette is light weight yes.... but any type of AWD car with 300+ HP will kill any type of RWD car off the line... Yea the vette cought up to him quick but the fact that a small car like that can do that is amazing...

It's not about the car it's all about the driver...

 

Yeah, that's why top fuel dragsters run AWD setups...

Oh yeah, that's right, they are RWD!

You obviously do not understand of the concept of weight transfer. Upon acceleration, the weight is transfered from the front of the vehicle to the rear. Hence, why a RWD vehicle is optimum for drag cars - traction.

That "any type AWD car with 300+ HP will kill any type of RWD car off the line" comment is laughable.

 

I said about mid 14s, Ive seen them run high 14s and high 13s, it depends on the driver/conditions and many other variables (even among the cars themselves), youre ignorant if you think all Stealth TTs will run 13s easily.

 

You said that an awd, 300hp car will "kill" a vette off the line, and then your very last statement was "it's not about the car, it's about the driver"....You just proved who the retaded one is....

I'm glad atleast wingnut understands.

-Mace

 

It your orignal post you said nothing of mid 13's, you just stated mid 14's. I understand that the driver is a very important variable in racing, street or drag. What I meant by my comment is that the stealth TT is easily capable of running mid 13's. Either way, I think we are agreeing on the same thing.

BTW, when you call bs can you atleast give a decent argument on why you called bs...Thanks

 

The reason is simple. Its highly unlikely that a 300hp car putting 200hp to the ground and suffering from parasitic AWD on the top end will keep up with a top end monster LS1, especially when most LS1s are known to put out 280-310hp to the wheels.

 

Ok you know what... F*ck you guys... I throw one possibilty out and I get f*cking smashed from every person on the board.... you guys were cool until you guys f*cking critizied every possibilty i've ever thrown out.... f*ck you guys and this board!

 

Hey man its all in the setup.

Ive raced them at the track on equal ground, no problem taking them. Granted my setup makes a bit more power and uaually I drive better. On the street Ive taken a Subaru WRX like he had a tow line attached, havent a clue if it was STI or what ever bull crap the X**'s wanna put in thier cars. I know mine was faster.

You dont know until you race and probably will never know until all is said and done.

 

man its not that they wanna prove u wrong and u dont have to leave the board because of one post. thier just backing up their ideas with facts.

 

Dang boy...Sorry I made you cry. Like A88GTANotchback said, we weren't out to get you. I was just defending myself on your comment on calling me a retard...If you can't take it, don't hand it out.

-Mace

 

In Sport Compact Car magazine, they dyno'ed both the STI and WRX stock. The drivetrain loss for each was 15% to 17%. Now your saying that the Stealth TT has a 33% drivetrain loss? This cannot be right. I know that they are not the same cars, but since nither of us have a dyno sheet of a Stealth TT, the WRX and STI, which was also rated at 300HP, is the closet we have.
I went to 3si.org and people there said it was more of a 22% drivetrain loss.


Also, on a car weighing 3800lbs, IF it was only putting down 200HP to the ground, there is no way it could do a low 14 second 1/4 to a high 13 second 1/4, and top out at around 160mph, tested by car and driver magazine in '91. Maybe the car was just underrated at 300hp?


Either way, I never said it would beat an LS1. Just incase anyone misunderstood, I said it can keep UP with an LS1, that doesn't mean it would beat one. As for the comment, "prepared to get raped" I was referring to the dude in the LG4.

-Mace