Supercharged84Z

hey guys, i live in Yuppieville, NJ. mommy and daddy bought this kid in my school a brand spankin new BMW M3. i wanna know what itll take to get him on the street. i wanna destroy this little pest. ill have a 350 and 700r4 with shift kit and 2000stall converter. what kinda motor work is necessary? i know gears are a must...

88GTAinRI

Your name says Supercharged. Is this less than true? Boost will whoop his candy azz.

86transamws6

the term "yuppie" is so underated

iroc22

What heads are included in this 350 swap?

Supercharged84Z

well i dont have too much money to put into the motor but i have enough for moderate stuff..i was thinking of just gasket matching the heads myself (im pretty crafty with a die grinder) and what have you...eventually im gonna put a 144 supercharger under the hood just for a little extra fun, nothing major. if i feel saucy, i might get those World heads in jegs for like 350ish a pop. they seem like a big improvement over stock, just not the best i can get.

mdricken

I checked out the BMW website and it says the M3 engine puts out 85000 Watts which in non-****** units equals 113HP. In other words those cars suck and if my parents gave me that car I'd be like, why are you punishing me? Your good to go the way you are dude. Just make sure ya got traction!

Good luck.

Supercharged84Z

hahaahahaha thats great..but i thought an M3 would have much more than that?HA i cant wait till i can whoop him and look at his face because his genius head cant figure out why some "poor" kid in a camaro walked him

Jgolden314

in my car and driver magazine it says the bmw m3 has 333hp.....doesn't sound too dang bad to me, if i were you, id study alittle more, not to down you or anything, its just those cars do have *****
but good luck and hope you beat him

Jgolden314

I just looked at car and driver and the m3 convertible ran a 13.6 on the quarter mile

89blackGTA

The new M3s do have 333hp. They are very quick cars for 6s. They are almost as fast as the M5s. If you can run low 13s you should do alright. Also depends if the kid can drive or not. I am not sure if they even come in autos. I have driven three M3s and they were all sticks and QUICK. Very fun cars to drive, but I would rather throw $30k into my car.

Brian

87transam5.7tpi

make sure it isn't a M5 I played w/ one when I was stock and damn........... but the guy was a cool 50ish guy and was like "you got a REALLY nice car there son" but like I said just amke sure it aint a M5 :-D

25THRSS

Basically an M3 will be around LS1 performance. Those cars are pretty fast and its gonna take a nice setup to beat one.

383backinblack

with slicks they are.....they seem to have awful traction problems and mainly ****ty drivers......as such, most ive seen at the track run in the low 14's....with racing tires they go pretty good though

Ray87Z

The slightly older models with I believe 240hp were solidly in the low/mid 14s, there is no way a newer 333hp one should run that badly unless there is a monkey in the drivers seat. Low 13s seems to be the norm, right in there with LS1s like someone said above...

You are going to need a decent 350 setup to beat this guy if he has the newer 333hp model, and I don't think some stock smogger heads you've lightly cleaned up are going to cut it... If it's a 240hp model you could probably beat him with any decent 350 setup...

I'm not clear on exactly what you have already though. You sig says soon, but you say you already have the 350 and stuff? What is it that you already have?

If I were you I would try to score some used Vortec heads somewhere like ebay, a Performer RPM to fit them, and a decent cam. If you already have a bunch of crap you were planning on using I'd try to sell it and go the Vortec head route. That setup with a good exhaust should let you take this guy IMO, or at the very worst be extremely competitive with him...

Timz2882

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hey dave ill stop by in my car, get out and kick the crap out of the mommy boy and take his car

or if he trys racing u tell him u race people who actually worked for there car and not had money and daddy buy everything for them

3.1EyeCandy

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is the kid really a yuppie? I know if my folks would have bought me a new car when I got a car....I'd have been real happy. Just make sure he's a yuppie and not a lucky "one-of-us" kind of guys before you kill him.

BigErns90IrocZ

If I remember correctly, the M3 is not a beast from stop light racing, but on the highway races they are monster.

Supercharged84Z

my school is really small (900 kids) so everyone knows everyone...hes a spoiled brat who cant drive stick. him and his brother. his brother has had a viper and a cobra already (crashed both of em)...and is that vortec setup really that good? what do i have to do to get the vortec's on my car? ive heard some stuff about milling them down? im clueless..and tim, im driving when we steal his car, hes MY yuppie target
:lala:

Timz2882

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lol sure

84'Camaroboy

here's how to c if u r really gonna beat him...for any of u guys who have kazaa or morpheus download this video!.....its insane and the m3 in the video isnt even moded!....check it out!....its called "BMW M3 vs. Police lt1 camaro" just download it and c if u think u can keep up!...oh and by the way the cops lt1 has a chip too!...just watch your ***!.....good luck man!

Timz2882

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yea i have that video. but also in that video at 2:26 into it they say the BMW is supercharged! dunno if he was right or not but also how do they know its a bmw M3 and not some bmw hopped up. im just sayin.

Dan88IrocZ

You are toast.

I got brutally violated by an M3. Do some mods, if you haven't already. Headers, exhaust etc and you could give him a run.

IROCBandit

I'll second that you are toast. I work for a BMW dealership and those M3's are tough to beat, but with those cars its alot the driver too. Now does his car have a 6-speed or the new SMG paddle shifters? the SMG uses the same paddles the F1 cars do, if hes got one of these its going to take that much more to beat him. I bet you beat him off the line but after that one or two seconds hes going to destroy you. You can make your car go faster for alot cheaper though, supercharger for you about 2500, supercharger for him around 14000, good luck

also, the m3's are known as being the porsche killers, we had a guy come in and trade off a 2003 911 w/ 900 miles on it for an m3, so that tells you something

Drakar

Stop light racing an good 3 series BMW (incl M3's), is easy to win, it's highway speeds that they kill, anything above 90mph and they destroy to 150mph, then the factoy speed limiter turns on.

I would say for an M3 you need a good amount of torque and topend.

So really you need to run 12s to destroy this guy, or if he can drive low 13s should work very well.

mdricken

:sillylol:

mdricken

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i was thinking of just gasket matching the heads myself (im pretty crafty with a die grinder) and what have you...

If you are comfortable w/a die grinder you should DEFINITELY port your heads. It's very cheap for the money it costs in parts. I did this to my 305 and it REALLY woke it up. I read a car craft article one time that said you gain 10-20% HP from what you started with. I also did a 3 angle valve job for another 10HP or so....that's a solid 40HP increase for less than $200!

BTW - if you do this you may want to get some old heads from a junk yard and work on them so you can still run your car while your porting. It took me about 3 weeks to port/install and I was glad I did this

Well whatever you do kick his overpriced mommy and daddy baught import car's ***! :rockon:

Supercharged84Z

im thinkin of gettin vortec heads, but what do i have to do to get them on my 350? do they just bolt right on?

Hawk92z-TDZ

U need a Vortec intake

Supercharged84Z

yea i figured that...do they make the intakes with EGR or do they have non-EGR vortec intakes? cause a plugged up hose would clash with my **** neatness complex.

Ray87Z

The Performer RPM for Vortecs has no EGR crap. In fact the heads have no provisions for EGR so if you want it, you'll have to rig up an external setup... I don't even know if the regular Performer for Vortecs can be had with EGR provisions or not... You have to run a drop base aircleaner setup to fit under the stock hood with the RPM btw.

CHRISMAN2000

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I was waiting for the futige of the cops getting out and beating that kid. Oh well.