2birds40

my gf has a 240sx it is a fast car but i just got my formula on the road and decided to race the 240 my brother was driving it i got smoked it was emberessing

MdFormula350

really! any mods to that 240?

2birds40

it has a cat back and filter but thats it i thought for sure i would beat it

curt86iroc

eh, sh*t happens

curt86iroc

whoa, easy on that LG4 bashing mark....

2birds40

i thought i could atleast beat a na 4 banger i mean come on this is sick

rx7speed

well wat do you expect it was an LG4

89rsIMPRTETR

try doing a tune up on your car, if that doesnt do the trick, do some mods like new carb, intake, exhaust and so on so fourth

BillZ28

Get headers and a full catback, and maybe some rear end gears and give it another run.

2birds40

it has a fresh tune up i just got the car i will be doing some mods real soon i knew that it wasn't going to beat many things but i didn't know that they where that slow it is a good motor to good compression the 240 didn't even hookup its pretty sick

GTATransAM

Hey man dont worry if u lose, i mean at least now u have more motivation to mod your car right?

Losing sucks, but makes u stronger, its like waking up the beast. Second time around they wont be so lucking, right? Mod, then go out again, and u should spank that 4-banger.

rx7speed

amen to that

don't take a loss as a well this sux point... but rather a well guess I need to buy that blown 502 putting out about 1500hp

Matt86t/a

Hey, when I am done with my LG4 I will race you guys and you can see what is up. I am guessing this 240SX was stick then? I am not surprised it won. I ould probably lose right now to the same car. Well, maybe from a stop, but I would probably take it from a roll. Get a few mods and then show that import who is boss.

~Matt

Ian_F

one mod and you will be all over that thing. Gears. go to 3.73's and kick its stupid imported a$$ back to where it came from!

Abel Kane

I got a bad feeling...

The 305's were good engines...People throw anything away these days. They are certainly reliable.

Chevies are good most of the time. Of course there are those engines that are tougher.
cough coughOldsmobilecough cough


*kidding* just a joke. Don't shoot...

rx7speed

not always the case


sure you might be able to get up and go a little faster but then again you are going to limit the driving speed that the car can run through also.


running lower gears like that work best when they are working with a motor built to rev it a little more.

if he is all stock I would say something like a 3.23 would be best


and also please watch the import bashing

first off you are bashing his girlfriends car, secondly the car did beat his, third I know of quite a few imports that could show a lot of domestic muscle down...

anymore almost it doesn't matter if it is imported or domestic


the thing I believe in is "us vs r<x>ice"

us being anything/one that works on there own cars, knows what the car can and can not do (ie. yeah my stock cav runs 10's with nothing more then slicks... that guy.... r<x>ice) tries to make the car fast, if they do the car for show.. well long as they don't get gaudy fugly with it and realize the car is for show.

r<x>ice... well that's simple domeistic or import that runs 40 foot spoilers, quad 18" tips in there car, when there list of mods include intake/header/exhuast and that drops them into the 9's you get the idea

davecamaro

thats pathetic man, not to mention the 240 was one of nissans slowest cars.. thats pathetic.. v8 power put to shame.. Boo big time..

Abel Kane

That's what I meant by "a bad feeling". The import threatening was getting a little fierce.

Point is, own one tough-as-hell Japanese car and it will break you from doing much in the way of bashing. That Subaru that my family owned was not fast, BUT...what torque it had worked well with an auto transmission. How often is that the case? Especially with a 4 cylinder. And it just wouldn't die. Uncanny traction, unless you wanted it to spin. It could at least chirp them and it could put on a show with a little water down. I've had cars that can't even do that.

Point is, the enemy is the guy in the car. If he's a bastard, it doesn't matter if he's in a Corvette. He's the enemy. If he's not, he's just a competitor.

rx7speed

yeah but then again the stock carb 305 isn't anything special either


could be worked on to make it fast but nothing fast to start with

rx7speed

AMEN to that


US vs. R<x>ICE
the enemy is the person not the car.... you think the car wants those stickers put all over it?

Abel Kane

:sillylol: :sillylol: :sillylol:

That's a good one. I can see it now. "Revenge of the Clowned Cars". ****-boys getting jumped and held down while a "Powered by Bullsh.t" tattoo is printed on their butts, foreheads, whichever...

rx7speed

lol

alright who wants to help me make a remake of christine.... anti **** style

joshp14

my bro has a 240sx and it has filter and fart muffler, i killed him. i have a LB9 auto w/2.73 gears

karbonklone

it could be like that old movie maximum overdrive but maybe maximum overR*ced and possesed **** boxes could huddle their owners into a place that installs tint and neon lighting rather a gas station.

FyreLance

LOL :sillylol:

Dennis91RS

no this race makes since

my friend has a 240 the motor is stock only mod is a catback import exhaust runs 15.90s

stock LG4 runs 17s

don't worry though with a few boltons that 240 will think twice

zerotosixtyV8

hey, at least you didn't line up against some one with an SR20DET swapped into their 240SX, if you had a L98 you'd probably be embarassed by them.

C-Dawg

I raced a 240SX in my old 2.8 RS and he only had me by a car.....I have an 84 LG4 now and I am positive that id win the same car.....all stock on the 240 and my old RS and my Z28

C-Dawg

Boy is that the bitter truth....Actually get rid of the stock air filter and have decent tires and u could get into the high 16's

curt86iroc

stock LG4's are usually in the mid 16's with the 700r4 and **** gears....

tpivette89

are you guys running these LG4s with spark plug wires disconnected or what? my 100% bone stock 84' LG4 auto Z28 went 16.0 at 85mph with only the air cleaner removed. theres no way a properly driven LG4 should have lost to a near stock 240sx. especially the 87' version with its higher HP rating

zerotosixtyV8

I'd give credit to the 240SX where it's due. a '95 is capable of high 15s stock, they are pushovers for stock TPIs but they'd give trouble to the RS owner. I know this, cause I had an RS and SAAB 9-3 turbos and Civic Sis gave me trouble, and they are slower.

Matt86t/a

tpivette, our times are a lot worse because you have better gears. Those gears can make all the difference, especially in the launch. I wish I had 3.23s. Soon I will have better gears though, then I will easily be in the 15's.

~Matt

tpivette89

i thought all LG4s came with 3.23s? thats what the chart on this website says. and you guys have posi, which means you can launch alot harder than i can with my stupid pegleg rear

besides, my comment was aimed at the people who said stock LG4s are 17 sec cars, which just isnt true. anyone who cant get one of these stock motors into the 16s has no place on a dragstrip

Matt86t/a

No, the stock rear gear on an LG4 (at least in 1986) was 2.73 open which is what I have, except there is a lot of gear whine on mine and I think a few of my gears may be broken But my LG4 also had like 10 horses more than the 84. I wish I had run my car right when I got it (stock), but I bought it while it was only running on 6 cylinders because of a blown headgasket. So by the time it was running right, I had already thrown in the cam and done the headers because I was already in there. The time in my sig is with headers, new cat, and new ignition. I want higher gears, my buddy just bought a 91 Z and he has a 3.45 disc axle he is going to put in it. So maybe I can get his 3.23s...

~Matt

2birds40

tpivette i have 2.73s and it is a pegleg now i ain't no pro driver but i can drive my car the 240 is pretty quick i hate to say it but it is just a faster car

tpivette89

are you guys SURE you have 2.73s? have you actually jacked up the rear and spun the driveshaft and counted and all? cause it just doesnt make sense (especially with all the mods you have, Matt 86) that my mph WITH A 100% TOTALLY STOCK CAR, is way higher than you. i mean, i havent even done a tune up to the thing yet. my first time at the dragstrip with the car i ran 16.0 three times in a row, all at 85mph. i manually shift the car (factory shift points are way too low), so maybe thats whats wrong??? it just doesnt make sense to me how my car is so much faster than all of yours

Matt86t/a

Yea, when I ran the camshaft was newly installed and I didn't realize that it made the most power above the factory shiftpoints. When I ran I those times I let the car shift itself, so I could easily run better now taking the car up to 6k rpms. I know I have 2.73s because of the 70mph test, and the rpo. So now I manually shift, and right now with that and the catback I could easily be in the 15's. The reason for my slow mph and 60' is my gears and camshaft. Installing a camshaft with a high rpm range totally destroyed my lowend. I couldn't do a brakestand if I wanted to or even chirp the tires from a stop. My engine now makes almost no power at idle or offidle. All of this is because my gears leave me out of my cam range down low. With better gears and a high stall I will have a matching driveline and I will be in business. I bet if we compared our timeslips you would have killed me the first 1/8, and i would be pretty close if not the same on the second half.

~Matt

Dennis91RS

my 1985 2.8 V6 MPFI ran side by side with an LG4 only mods on the little six were Accel plug wires,K&N,and Dynomax exhaust

no offense stock an LG4 is a dog but there are always room for improvements

curt86iroc

that LG4 must have been waaay out of tune cuz those 2.8's are 17 sec cars whereas an LG4 is in the mid-low 16's.....

tpivette89

exactly. any good running LG4 is capable of low 16 sec times. they should easily walk a 2.8 body

i repeat... LG4s ARE NOT 17 SEC CARS!

Abel Kane

If a full-size car with the same engine can pull low 18 second times...Yeah, I would say that a Camaro or Firebird should do better than 17 seconds.
I've noticed, though, that any fuel injected car suffers TERRIBLY when in need of a tuneup. Carbed cars maintain pretty well from my experience. Are LG4's Carbed or Fuel Injected...or either? That last one was my guess, but I'm not sure.
According to my 83 car book, 305s were a little low on the list as far as power and torque goes. Just compare it to other GM heavy hitters of the same year...

305 tbi v8.............175 hp @ 4200 RPM/250 lbs-ft @ 2800 RPM
305 4bbl v8............150 hp @ 4000 RPM/240 lbs-ft @ 2400 RPM
307 HO 4bbl v8.........180 hp @ 4400 RPM/245 lbs-ft @ 3200 RPM
231 v6 4bbl Turbo......180 hp @ 4000 RPM/290 lbs-ft @ 2400 RPM

hmmm...

Abel Kane

And here's something that hurts...

173 Chevy EFI v6..........135 hp @ 5400 RPM/145 lbs-ft @ 2400 RPM

232 Ford 2bbl v6..........105 hp @ 4000 RPM/181 lbs-ft @ 1200 RPM
302 Ford tbi v8...........130 hp @ 3600 RPM/240 lbs-ft @ 1600 RPM


***-beating for Ford in the hp department. The 3.8 Ford being the competitor to the 2.8 Chevy. That was the HO 2.8, but even the standard had a little more hp, though it was left out in the torque department. And just look at the 302.........the 2.8 HO has a little MORE hp....Shameful.

curt86iroc

the LG4 is a carbed 305 available from 82 to 87. max hp was 165. a carbed engine just liek any other engine will run crappy when its not maintained. if my car burns through a wire, which it does semi frequently, it will run horrible. same if it fouls out a plug.....

tpivette89

LG4 hp figures:

82 - 145hp
83/84 - 150hp
85/86 - 160hp
87 - 170hp

torque was pretty much unchanged throughout those years (240ftlbs). while the hp #s between the 2.8 MPFI 6 cylinder and the LG4 were somewhat close, its the torque output of the V8 that makes it faster. theres almost a 100ftlb difference