83 Z-28 vs. 2002 Mustang
11-11-2002, 02:55 AM
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83 Z-28 vs. 2002 Mustang
Well u guys, I haven't posted in awhile but here's one, Two guys at work wanna race, The one has a 83 Z-28 he has a 305 H.O. and I believe it's a 5 speed. The other has a 2002 Mustang, It's only a 3.8 V6 but he's also 5-Speed, Who will win and will it be close
11-11-2002, 03:45 AM
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Ok, on the off-chance that you're for real....
If it's an 83, then it's a 5-speed. They made 190 hp and had better gears with the manual. There will be no contest. It's not much of a race if the guy with the f-car can drive at all.
11-11-2002, 06:50 AM
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The guy with the Z just learn to drive stick about a month ago so I am guessing he's not that great, The dude with the Stang runs enduro cars with stick at the local raceway and he's awesome with stick shift.
11-11-2002, 10:29 AM
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Didn't you post before about an '83 Z with a HO racing a 85 TPI 305? Just though I remembered something about that. But anyways I give it to the Mustang, because the '83 has some miles and the hp is definetly not at the stock 190. The V-6 Mustang has 193 horse stock (which this car probably still has if it's new) plus if the guy races enduro with it he might have some mods. So my prediction MUSTANG WINS, by a considerable margin, maybe 3 to 4 car lengths
Oh yea there is more to an engine that Hp by the way, the '83 has 240 torque while the Mustang has 228 torque, Mustang still wins (Mustang only weighs 3066 lbs, with Base v-6 manual. Camaro is quite a bit more)
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Oh yea there is more to an engine that Hp by the way, the '83 has 240 torque while the Mustang has 228 torque, Mustang still wins (Mustang only weighs 3066 lbs, with Base v-6 manual. Camaro is quite a bit more)
Later, Garrett
11-11-2002, 10:52 AM
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I would say Mustang also. I have seen a new one my friend owns go 15.4 100% stock, and now it is high 14s with minor things on it! With a good driver the guy at your works car should be in the mid to low 15s!
11-11-2002, 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by CrashStitches
There will be no contest. It's not much of a race if the guy with the f-car can drive at all.
There will be no contest. It's not much of a race if the guy with the f-car can drive at all.
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Originally posted by fly89gta
How do you figure, AT BEST that camaro is high 15's...I've seen '01-02 V6 stangs with a 5-speed run better than that...
How do you figure, AT BEST that camaro is high 15's...I've seen '01-02 V6 stangs with a 5-speed run better than that...
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I agree that if the Camaro can launch right, and even drive right then he will win. The H.O. according to carstats hit 15.0 flat. Given that the H.O. is in good shape. Now if the Camaro driver blows, than it will be a drivers race.
11-11-2002, 02:59 PM
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Ok dude we had this discusion a couple months ago and an L69 with John Force behind the wheel brand new will run 15.09999 OK maybe. But not an L69 from 1983 in 2002 that is 19 years of abuse on a car, cars lose a lot of horse and torque in that time. So I would say after 100K (about right if not more for a 19 year old car) the engine maybe has 160 horse and 210 torque.
So now the Mustang has more horse and torque, the Mustang also weighs 200 lbs less than the L69 so why would the Camaro win. Please respond with an educated statement, not something like because it's a V-8 and V-8's rule
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Later, Garrett
So now the Mustang has more horse and torque, the Mustang also weighs 200 lbs less than the L69 so why would the Camaro win. Please respond with an educated statement, not something like because it's a V-8 and V-8's rule
.Later, Garrett
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I think the XR5 Topaz would wail on both of 'em running in reverse!....
Well u guys, I haven't posted in awhile but here's one, Two guys at work wanna race, The one has a 83 Z-28 he has a 305 H.O. and I believe it's a 5 speed. The other has a 2002 Mustang, It's only a 3.8 V6 but he's also 5-Speed, Who will win and will it be close
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1992 Mercury Topaz XR5.
3.0 V6, DOHC, 5 Speed, No times yet
Was shown a 1/4 time of 15.1 on a timeslip but would like to prove it myself!
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1992 Mercury Topaz XR5.
3.0 V6, DOHC, 5 Speed, No times yet
Was shown a 1/4 time of 15.1 on a timeslip but would like to prove it myself!
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11-11-2002, 05:54 PM
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Roc-Z, Shut your mouth, No flame contest here. I bet u my XR5 could take ur car, I can take 2.8's 3.1's and carb'd 305's. Depends what u have, I beat a 92 RS Camaro by 4 1/2 cars last week.
11-11-2002, 05:58 PM
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A topaz!
OmG
those are the worst cars ever made!
My friend has a Topaz "sporty version" of them I dont know im guessing the one that guy is talking about. What a serious peice of ****. He payed 3 grand, 3 of the 4 pistons are busted, the car pretty much runs on 1 piston becuase the rest lost there compression. The car feels like its pulling like 60hp or something around that.
OmG
those are the worst cars ever made!
My friend has a Topaz "sporty version" of them I dont know im guessing the one that guy is talking about. What a serious peice of ****. He payed 3 grand, 3 of the 4 pistons are busted, the car pretty much runs on 1 piston becuase the rest lost there compression. The car feels like its pulling like 60hp or something around that.
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You really think so?? Not when the 92 XR5/LTS/GLS were made, Grant it, The 4 cylinders were **** and slow, But the 3.0 DOHC mated with the 5 speed had about 175-180 hp with anywhere from 200-215 ft lbs of torque. I can wail on 305's and V6s and many other unsuspecting people that think this is a granny car, Don't look like it though, I take the ricers out as well
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im glad your happy with ur topaz..
I know my friend hates it.
Like everything about it, is so ghetto.
The buttons and Ack just crappy looking.
I know my friend hates it.
Like everything about it, is so ghetto.
The buttons and Ack just crappy looking.
11-11-2002, 06:16 PM
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yea he has the base model GS, I have the top of the line 92 XR5 it has a 3.0 DOHC V6 with the 5-Speed, It's been a very good and reliable fast car. All I have had to do within the last year or so is replace oil pan gasket and give it a tune up. I have the 120 mph speedo, Power Seats, Premium Sound, Sport Tuned Suspension, Ground Effects, Fog Lamps, Dual Exhaust, Black leather wrapped steering wheel and shift ****, The manual transaxle in the XR5 is the exact same one in the Taurus SHO. MTX-IV transmission. Car also has, Power door locks, Power windows, Cruise Control, 15'' Inch Alloy Rims, Car looks good, Wish I could get a pic up
11-11-2002, 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by Camaro_1986_19
I can take 2.8's 3.1's and carb'd 305's.
I can take 2.8's 3.1's and carb'd 305's.
11-11-2002, 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by Camaro_1986_19
Roc-Z, Shut your mouth, No flame contest here. I bet u my XR5 could take ur car, I can take 2.8's 3.1's and carb'd 305's. Depends what u have, I beat a 92 RS Camaro by 4 1/2 cars last week.
Roc-Z, Shut your mouth, No flame contest here. I bet u my XR5 could take ur car, I can take 2.8's 3.1's and carb'd 305's. Depends what u have, I beat a 92 RS Camaro by 4 1/2 cars last week.
I remember your posts before you came out of the closet, listing your car in your sig- they all had to do with a Topaz vs. ???.
I would **** my pants if your '92 turned 16.00 flat in the 1/4...let alone rape my '86 LB9 IROC (btw, only 79K on the clock).
If you beat a 92 RS; it had to be a 6-banger RS with grandma (with her arthritis factored in) behind the manual....a 305 TBI would have man-handled you.
BTW, where do you work? Sounds like the local dragstrip, by all the races that "go down" between all your co-workers....
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1992 saw the arrival of the 3.0 litre V6 Vulcan engine, producing 140hp @ 4800rpm, and 160lbs of torque @ 3000rpm, the car also received a new grille, redesigned side trim and tail lights. The XR5 also received integrated fog lights in the front bumper and 15" alloy wheels with 195/60 tyres. Factory options included air conditioning, central locking and cruise control. Although it sold well in 1992, reduced sales and popularity of the V6 meant that production of the XR5 ceased sometime during 1993.
Originally posted by Camaro_1986_19
But the 3.0 DOHC mated with the 5 speed had about 175-180 hp with anywhere from 200-215 ft lbs of torque. I can wail on 305's and V6s and many other unsuspecting people that think this is a granny car, Don't look like it though, I take the ricers out as well
But the 3.0 DOHC mated with the 5 speed had about 175-180 hp with anywhere from 200-215 ft lbs of torque. I can wail on 305's and V6s and many other unsuspecting people that think this is a granny car, Don't look like it though, I take the ricers out as well
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Originally posted by 1991tealRSt-topGuy
not to sound cocky, but would you like to try my carbed 305?
not to sound cocky, but would you like to try my carbed 305?
Hell not to sound cocky but I'll try out your carbed 305. :lala:
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Originally posted by Snake32v
That reminds me of Kyle F. I think that had the Escort that he said would run solid low 15s. But now he has that bad **** 89 TTA!! :hail:
That reminds me of Kyle F. I think that had the Escort that he said would run solid low 15s. But now he has that bad **** 89 TTA!! :hail:
I guess, it's one thing to admit your car isn't bad-***.
It's another to say it is, while everyone knows otherwise.
Hey, what happened to Monkie? Banned? [just curious]....
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Originally posted by Snake32v
Well if he put your turbo headers on his car then I think that would be a solid 40rwhp. :sillylol:
Hell not to sound cocky but I'll try out your carbed 305. :lala:
Well if he put your turbo headers on his car then I think that would be a solid 40rwhp. :sillylol:
Hell not to sound cocky but I'll try out your carbed 305. :lala:
either of your dad's cars would rape mine, and guess what, i'm man enought to admit it
again- either grow up or go away, your new screename is not going to fool anybody
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Originally posted by ROC-Z
Hey, what happened to Monkie? Banned? [just curious]....
Hey, what happened to Monkie? Banned? [just curious]....
i didnt even realize it yet, i'm serious
just a matter of time till they ban Snake32V
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Originally posted by 1991tealRSt-topGuy
not to sound cocky, but would you like to try my carbed 305?
not to sound cocky, but would you like to try my carbed 305?
Hey camaro_1986_19
do u have any kind of time slips ???
that will sort this out once and for all..
I personally dont think a topaz can run even
a 16.0 flat...
11-11-2002, 07:52 PM
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Originally posted by 89camaroRSV6
or maybe my V6???
Hey camaro_1986_19
do u have any kind of time slips ???
that will sort this out once and for all..
I personally dont think a topaz can run even
a 16.0 flat...
or maybe my V6???
Hey camaro_1986_19
do u have any kind of time slips ???
that will sort this out once and for all..
I personally dont think a topaz can run even
a 16.0 flat...
i wasnt telling him to race my 305 to sound cocky
i wanted him to realize what a fool he is
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Originally posted by 1991tealRSt-topGuy
exactly dude
i wasnt telling him to race my 305 to sound cocky
i wanted him to realize what a fool he is
exactly dude
i wasnt telling him to race my 305 to sound cocky
i wanted him to realize what a fool he is
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Originally posted by ROC-Z
Hey, I guess you got to start somewhere. Right?
I guess, it's one thing to admit your car isn't bad-***.
It's another to say it is, while everyone knows otherwise.
Hey, what happened to Monkie? Banned? [just curious]....
Hey, I guess you got to start somewhere. Right?
I guess, it's one thing to admit your car isn't bad-***.
It's another to say it is, while everyone knows otherwise.
Hey, what happened to Monkie? Banned? [just curious]....
And nah, my car isn't bad ***. Just has well over 400rwhp. :hail:
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ok, back to the original thread...
my 84' non-HO carbed 305 went 16.0 at 85mph 100% bone stock with 95k on the odometer. now factor in the HO motors 40 more horses, manual trans, and 3.73 posi rear and its pretty easy to see its definately capable of low 15s/high 14s easy with a good driver.
this race will come down to whomever can drive their cars better
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Wow, you guys feel better after flaming each other for a while?
BTW 400RWP, I'll believe it when I see a dyno sheet
I didn't catch that the 83 was a H.O. but unless its maintained perfectly my $ is still on the stang...
BTW 400RWP, I'll believe it when I see a dyno sheet
I didn't catch that the 83 was a H.O. but unless its maintained perfectly my $ is still on the stang...
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Stock these cars run a 15.4 in the 1/4, I know you guys can question me cuz who ever heard of Topaz and Performance in the same sentence??????????????? Like I said, I was shown a timeslip of 15.1
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Originally posted by Monkie
yea I though DC was in VA.
yea I though DC was in VA.
Originally posted by Monkie
Oh well I never said I was the smartest guy in the world.
Oh well I never said I was the smartest guy in the world.
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:sillylol: well its true.
Edit: Oh hey Nic buddy, if you're gonna quote me. Quote me on what I really said.
Edit: Oh hey Nic buddy, if you're gonna quote me. Quote me on what I really said.
Originally posted by Monkie
: yea I though DC was in VA. I knew its technically not but since its right next to it and it is not in any state I always have said its in VA. Oh well I never said I was the smartest guy in the world.
: yea I though DC was in VA. I knew its technically not but since its right next to it and it is not in any state I always have said its in VA. Oh well I never said I was the smartest guy in the world.
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Camaro_1986_19: talking **** about his topaz XR5's since August 2002.
Seriously, everyone on this board has called
on your 15.1, 175HP vulcan xr5.. Why don't you just give it up? Nobody cares that you can beat a 17 second car.
Give it up already. If you don't have a timeslip of what YOU ran, or your infamous "build sheet" then just shut the hell up and quit wasting everyones time.
Seriously, everyone on this board has called
on your 15.1, 175HP vulcan xr5.. Why don't you just give it up? Nobody cares that you can beat a 17 second car.Give it up already. If you don't have a timeslip of what YOU ran, or your infamous "build sheet" then just shut the hell up and quit wasting everyones time.
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All I can say is: Camaro_1986_19: OWNED!
Originally posted by ROC-Z
LoL, My wife (when we were dating) had a '94 Topaz....Yeah, visualize those cars being remotely "sporty", let alone quick...well wait...I guess that luggage rack did sorta' resemble a spoiler...
I remember your posts before you came out of the closet, listing your car in your sig- they all had to do with a Topaz vs. ???.
I would **** my pants if your '92 turned 16.00 flat in the 1/4...let alone rape my '86 LB9 IROC (btw, only 79K on the clock).
If you beat a 92 RS; it had to be a 6-banger RS with grandma (with her arthritis factored in) behind the manual....a 305 TBI would have man-handled you.
BTW, where do you work? Sounds like the local dragstrip, by all the races that "go down" between all your co-workers....
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1992 saw the arrival of the 3.0 litre V6 Vulcan engine, producing 140hp @ 4800rpm, and 160lbs of torque @ 3000rpm, the car also received a new grille, redesigned side trim and tail lights. The XR5 also received integrated fog lights in the front bumper and 15" alloy wheels with 195/60 tyres. Factory options included air conditioning, central locking and cruise control. Although it sold well in 1992, reduced sales and popularity of the V6 meant that production of the XR5 ceased sometime during 1993.
LoL, My wife (when we were dating) had a '94 Topaz....Yeah, visualize those cars being remotely "sporty", let alone quick...well wait...I guess that luggage rack did sorta' resemble a spoiler...
I remember your posts before you came out of the closet, listing your car in your sig- they all had to do with a Topaz vs. ???.
I would **** my pants if your '92 turned 16.00 flat in the 1/4...let alone rape my '86 LB9 IROC (btw, only 79K on the clock).
If you beat a 92 RS; it had to be a 6-banger RS with grandma (with her arthritis factored in) behind the manual....a 305 TBI would have man-handled you.
BTW, where do you work? Sounds like the local dragstrip, by all the races that "go down" between all your co-workers....
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1992 saw the arrival of the 3.0 litre V6 Vulcan engine, producing 140hp @ 4800rpm, and 160lbs of torque @ 3000rpm, the car also received a new grille, redesigned side trim and tail lights. The XR5 also received integrated fog lights in the front bumper and 15" alloy wheels with 195/60 tyres. Factory options included air conditioning, central locking and cruise control. Although it sold well in 1992, reduced sales and popularity of the V6 meant that production of the XR5 ceased sometime during 1993.
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True, Camaro_1986_19, he did prove you wrong with FACTS!
I have not seen one fact about your cars supposed horsepower, just claims of a 15.1 that you have SEEN the timeslip from. Until you prove it with facts (like you never did with your low 15 second , in the rain, 2.8) noone will ever believe it.
Back to the original topic, I say the Mustang just because the age leaves so much room for issues on the Camaro!
I have not seen one fact about your cars supposed horsepower, just claims of a 15.1 that you have SEEN the timeslip from. Until you prove it with facts (like you never did with your low 15 second , in the rain, 2.8) noone will ever believe it.
Back to the original topic, I say the Mustang just because the age leaves so much room for issues on the Camaro!
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Camaro_1986_19 likes calling people out, I would love to be called out, because the FACTS PROVE that his car only has 140 hp and 160 tq!!!
I tell you what, that Topaz is very intimidating, as long as I am driving my moms Subaru, or my dads F-150!!!
:lala: :lala: :lala:
I tell you what, that Topaz is very intimidating, as long as I am driving my moms Subaru, or my dads F-150!!!
:lala: :lala: :lala: