C&D Tested the Neon SRT-4
#51
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Car: 1986 IROC-Z28
Engine: 305 TPI
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Looks like Mopar is getting a little too turbo happy. They're coming out with this as well.
2003 PT Cruiser Turbo
Price: $23,000(est)
Vehicle layout: Front-engine, FWD, 4-door, 5-pass
Engine: Turbocharged 2.4L/205-hp I-4, 4 valves/cyl
On sale: Fall 2002
0-60 mph, sec: 7.5 (est)
2003 PT Cruiser Turbo
Price: $23,000(est)
Vehicle layout: Front-engine, FWD, 4-door, 5-pass
Engine: Turbocharged 2.4L/205-hp I-4, 4 valves/cyl
On sale: Fall 2002
0-60 mph, sec: 7.5 (est)
#52
Why is this a bad thing? An AMERICAN auto manufacturer is making FAST CARS. It's not like GM is making anything better.........oooooooo another FWD N/A 6!!!!! Wow, they need another one of those!!!!!!!!!! Oh wait, that's all they have. When I see someone make something better maybe I'll agree. Don't get me wrong, I love my IROC, but GM doesn't have a single affordable new car that interests me. When are they going to get with the program? Dodge has a brand new 5.7L V-8, and is trying to put it in MORE cars. GM had a 5.7L V-8, but is scared to put it in anything! The old excuse of economy or emissions is utter bull**** , an LS1 with a 6-speed and a good driver will pass emissions with flying colors, and can knock down 30mpg if you try. GM needs to wise up before they lose their heritage. I'm still waiting on a new RWD V-8 sports/muscle car for under 25K, we'll see if they pull it off.
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From: Ormond Beach, Florida
Car: '88 Firebird Formula
Engine: 360hp/417ft. lb. 350
Transmission: Pro-Built Street/Strip 700R4
Originally posted by eatmydust
Looks like Mopar is getting a little too turbo happy. They're coming out with this as well.
2003 PT Cruiser Turbo
Price: $23,000(est)
Vehicle layout: Front-engine, FWD, 4-door, 5-pass
Engine: Turbocharged 2.4L/205-hp I-4, 4 valves/cyl
On sale: Fall 2002
0-60 mph, sec: 7.5 (est)
Would you prefer one that barely made 100hp and ran 0-60 in about four weeks? Since when did more performance become a bad thing? It's a pretty decent offering for the money, too.
Looks like Mopar is getting a little too turbo happy. They're coming out with this as well.
2003 PT Cruiser Turbo
Price: $23,000(est)
Vehicle layout: Front-engine, FWD, 4-door, 5-pass
Engine: Turbocharged 2.4L/205-hp I-4, 4 valves/cyl
On sale: Fall 2002
0-60 mph, sec: 7.5 (est)
Would you prefer one that barely made 100hp and ran 0-60 in about four weeks? Since when did more performance become a bad thing? It's a pretty decent offering for the money, too.
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Car: 1981 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme Brougham 2dr Coupe
Engine: 403 Olds v8, bored .030 over
Transmission: 350 T.H. 3A, shift kit
Neons are pieces of garbage. The PTs look good, but they use Neon drivetrains. Would be pretty easy to turbo the PT in that case, huh? Well, REAL DRIVERS, get ready to see plenty of blown up and wrecked compact pieces of **** on the highway. Sad but true. I wish it wasn't.
Hey, Nic, that sounds pretty good--the Turbo GT. You could add an extra letter. Call it the GTT or TGT.
So how much hp can you get out of the average engine with a 7:0 compression ratio? I know that's a broad question. How much can you get out of the average 3.8 built for a turbo? 300 hp?
Hey, Nic, that sounds pretty good--the Turbo GT. You could add an extra letter. Call it the GTT or TGT.
So how much hp can you get out of the average engine with a 7:0 compression ratio? I know that's a broad question. How much can you get out of the average 3.8 built for a turbo? 300 hp?
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From: South Brunswick NJ (home) New Brunswick (Rutgers)
now heres one bad *** neon... http://www.allpar.com/racing/nhra/neon-nhra.html
LOL
LOL
#56
Originally posted by maroon91rs
-ok first about the BOV being on the compressor housing.if it is integrated into the housing,im thinking that means that it is FIXED,and not upgradeable.that right there is MISTAKE #1 because we all know that is one of the first mods that are on the list of turbo upgrades,for the performance and of course that PPPSSSSSTTT!!!
-and now im reading that the boost IS NOT TUNEABLE!!LOLOLOL oh boy i sure hope theres a way around that or else the goofball MORONS that buy this are going to be VERY VERY disappointed that to even raise boost is going to require heavy modding,if it is even tuneable AT ALL.i cant help but laugh at this car so far.
-and about that scoop directing cold air to the turbo.i am failing to see the turbo in the pic of that engine,or even a diflector of some sort that shoot air to the turbo that is soooo convientely hid behind the motor where it is visible only if looked for hard enough.
ok well im done with my rant.my opinion.you want a quick turbo car thats actually worth the money.ok then buy a DSM or WRX.cause whats better than a turbo?a turbo with ALL WHEEL DRIVE!!!
NEON SRT-4= :lala: <---:nono:
-ok first about the BOV being on the compressor housing.if it is integrated into the housing,im thinking that means that it is FIXED,and not upgradeable.that right there is MISTAKE #1 because we all know that is one of the first mods that are on the list of turbo upgrades,for the performance and of course that PPPSSSSSTTT!!!
-and now im reading that the boost IS NOT TUNEABLE!!LOLOLOL oh boy i sure hope theres a way around that or else the goofball MORONS that buy this are going to be VERY VERY disappointed that to even raise boost is going to require heavy modding,if it is even tuneable AT ALL.i cant help but laugh at this car so far.
-and about that scoop directing cold air to the turbo.i am failing to see the turbo in the pic of that engine,or even a diflector of some sort that shoot air to the turbo that is soooo convientely hid behind the motor where it is visible only if looked for hard enough.
ok well im done with my rant.my opinion.you want a quick turbo car thats actually worth the money.ok then buy a DSM or WRX.cause whats better than a turbo?a turbo with ALL WHEEL DRIVE!!!
NEON SRT-4= :lala: <---:nono:
Not glorifying Neons or anything but for around 20k out the door this is a pretty cheap fast car with potential.
#57
Originally posted by CrazyHawaiian
Not glorifying Neons or anything but for around 20k out the door this is a pretty cheap fast car with potential.
Not glorifying Neons or anything but for around 20k out the door this is a pretty cheap fast car with potential.
3rd Gen - $4,000
LS1 engine - $10,000
Misc Mods - $6,000
Cool factor - 1,000,000 times better then a turbo neon.........
But i agree Hawaiian, those are impressive specs for a sub-$20K new car......
#58
How fast can you go with wrong-wheel drive, before you have to run around with wheelie bars that touch the ground when you're stopped, and slicks on the front?
Front wheel drive is definitely not for drag racing, and isn't great for road racing either.
I like the engine. I have nothing against small motors putting out lots of revs and lots of hp. That's nothing new. BUT, it's when the OE's install them east/west so that soccer moms can drive in the rain, I get pissed.
Front wheel drive is definitely not for drag racing, and isn't great for road racing either.
I like the engine. I have nothing against small motors putting out lots of revs and lots of hp. That's nothing new. BUT, it's when the OE's install them east/west so that soccer moms can drive in the rain, I get pissed.
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From: Alberta, Canada
Car: 1987 IROC
Engine: Vortec 350 TPI
Transmission: 7004r
I think the STR-4 is cool as hell.
Although selecting a more attractive vehicle to boost would have been more appealing and sensible.
I'll wait to see how they *actually* do in RL before I give them the
:hail:
I still remember the wrx hype.. *snicker*
We gotta quit with the lame "it's still a neon" excuses and start modding guys.
There are plenty of ppl who think thirdgens are ugly and junky, does that really matter in a race?
Although selecting a more attractive vehicle to boost would have been more appealing and sensible.
I'll wait to see how they *actually* do in RL before I give them the
:hail:
I still remember the wrx hype.. *snicker*
We gotta quit with the lame "it's still a neon" excuses and start modding guys.
There are plenty of ppl who think thirdgens are ugly and junky, does that really matter in a race?
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From: Tucson - MdFormula350 = Post uberWhore
Car: Sexy
Engine: Stock
Transmission: Slipping
A: The SRT-4 has mountains of good ol fashioned Detroit muscle, and does not need extra gears like some other
#61
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Car: 00 TA, 91 Formula, 89 RS
Engine: LS1 / 305 / 2.8, respectively
Transmission: T-56 / auto / auto
Originally posted by daytonadan
now heres one bad *** neon... http://www.allpar.com/racing/nhra/neon-nhra.html
LOL
now heres one bad *** neon... http://www.allpar.com/racing/nhra/neon-nhra.html
LOL
#62
Originally posted by CraZ-28
Q: Will there be a factory spoinler delete option for those who don't want to attract attention of local law enforcement? -Similar to the WRX no-spoiler oiption.
A: There will not be the option to delete any of the standard equipment on the 2003 Dodge SRT-4. The rear wing in functional and balances the car's aerodynamics at speed.
Q: Will there be a factory spoinler delete option for those who don't want to attract attention of local law enforcement? -Similar to the WRX no-spoiler oiption.
A: There will not be the option to delete any of the standard equipment on the 2003 Dodge SRT-4. The rear wing in functional and balances the car's aerodynamics at speed.
Sure it does. Its a good thing to take weight off the driven wheels (front) and transfer it to the rear at speed, right?
-Doug
#64
BRING BACK THE BIG BLOCKS!!!
I say for one year, GM reproduces the 57 Bel Airs, Pontiac with the GTO's , 67 Chevy Nova's all with big blocks, carbed, cammed, headers, tuned exhausts, muncie 4 speeds!!! that would be awesome to see a blast from the past at new car lots!!!! I love to dream about this....AARON
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From: Elk Grove Village, IL
Car: 1989 TransAm GTA
Engine: One sweet modified 355 TPI.
Transmission: The kind that shifts....
I found a 68 camaro that had that done. Moved to a LT1 Power plant. All updated, suspension, electronics, bla bla bla.
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/S...5/camaro1.html
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/S...5/camaro1.html
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