88_RS_2.8

I have a 88 RS Camaro with a 2.8 and an auto. I have a few mods Cat back 2 1/2" Flowmasters, K&N's, took the screen out of the MAF, Bosch Platinum +4's, and a non-A/C belt. Anyway on I-75 last night a new 3000GT pulled next to me at about 75mph, he started revving, then he took off, so I floored it I caught him at about 100. Then I pulled to about 2 car lengths by about 120. Then I let off and let him catch up then I smoked him again. Well, he followed me to my exit, then I pulled into a gas station he asked me what I had under the hood, he saw the 2.8 and almost took a crap. He showed me his, it was a 92' 3.0L non-turbo he had an intake and two giant fart cans. Anyone know how fast one of those are. Anyone have an idea how fast my car is cus I've never been to a track or anything. Ha the 2.8 Lives

Matt86t/a

there are like three other posts out now with info on all the 3000GT styles. The base model non-turbos are the slowest. Good kill though and good luck with the 383 str oker. Welcome too.

~Matt

blue305rs

my friend has a 92 non turbo stealth and he ran something like a 17.9X and an 18.2X.

BikertrashDude

buddys sister had one when they were new think it was a 90-91 she had a lead foot and drove that thing like a dude. i never knew they were so slow.........
buy the way she was cute...i was like 16 and she was like 19-20...vaa vaa voom. she had a wonderfull set of.....hmmm.

blue305rs

from my understanding, they are pretty heavy cars. i could be wrong though.

BikertrashDude

they are preety big cars
about the same size of a 3rd gen
biker

AUTOGON350

iTrader: (8)

good thing it was not a turbo.
I beat a friends LS1 with my parents 91 stealth twin Turbo
we raced from about 30-80.
that was quite a surprise to me.
turbos are no joke but I would like to have seen what it would have done off the line.
Low end vs. all wheel drive?

I always thought the 3000 was like 220hp or something like that in the non turbo
17.9 sounds slow
good job with the 2.8 I would not have known who to bet on.

OneHotV6

The 3000GT base and SL is rated at 222hp and 201ft lbs. torque, for the 91-92 models. Slightly lower hp for the newer ones. The weight on these cars are over 3300lbs and heavy... These cars seem to be better on the top-end since the weight is already in motion... I've had no trouble hitting 100mph from 60. I had an '89 Camaro with the 2.8L and it wasn't as quick as my GT, although my GT has a lot less mileage than the 2.8.

It pisses me off sometimes that the power sucks on the low-end but it gets great gas mileage on the highway and I always have the "other" car for the low-end kick!

Tom91Bird

iTrader: (5)

Were you still in the state of FL by the time that 2.8 got to 120? I didn't think those things would go 120 off the side of a cliff. Did you bypass your speed limiter to get that fast? I used to hit mine at 115 before I had it turned off.

Camaro_1986_19

Don't doubt the durable 2.8, I had it up to almost 140

DOOSKI

A non turbo 3000gt does the 1/4 in the mid 15 so i don`t think he had the peddle to the metal.

rx7speed

3000gt of any year should have beat you


turbo or not


your car 17 seconds or higher

his car mid 15´s


and on a highway race there is no launch or anything to mess up just missing a shift


and as for a 2.8 hitting 120....... I am sure it can be done.... but as someone else said how many states would you go through to hit it?

my rx-7 has better gearing (4.10 stock),more hp(about 146 stock), flatter powerband(3500-7000 is just about the same), and better aerodynamics (.28cd vs a .34 for your car) then a 2.8 camaro and after 120 things start to become a little tougher (at 120 I shift from 4th to 5th) and at 140 I wasn´t really gaining anything

DUSTINZ28

u guy are dicks about the 2.8...mine hit 120 like its nothing, nd it only takes me a few seconds...nothing like u guys are talking about...jeez...be nicer to the v6 guys..one of these days, ull race one and itll byte ur ***..

Dustin

Camaro_1986_19

I know, I drove my friends IROC-Z28 and my car has almost as much ***** as his, I LOVE MY BABY

88_RS_2.8

You know my V-6 has a few mods, and it has pulled to 120 a few times . I raced my friend 92 civic from a standstill and I beat him, his best 1/4 mile time was a 16.4 with a few mods, so I'm at least that fast don't underestimate the 2.8. I've scared a few people in it. The guy in the 3000 said he was on it all the time so stop talking crap about the 2.8. Who knows you might race one and think its just a V-6 and when you get smoked you'll remember me.

rx7speed

I have raced a 3.1 and won

not saying they aren't decent cars but I find it hard to believe that someone can hit 140 in them

120 might be right but I would think it would take some time

DUSTINZ28

yea 140 sounds a lil fast..but it only takes me about a quarter mile to hit 120...ive done it several times, the only reason i lift is because i hafta stop for the next red light lol im just saying, everyone thinks we have lawn mower engines, and the 2.8s are actually pretty quick, unless u are in second and floor it and it doesnt downshift..the nthat sux..

Camaro_1986_19

I have had many kills in my 2.8, Here's a list:
1998 Dodge Avenger ES
2002 Cavalier LS Sport
1993 Dodge Daytona ES
1982 Camaro Z28
1988 Ford Mustang
1997 Ford Aerostar (I know it's a van but it was pretty quick)
2000 Honda Civic (It was riced out and I showed him who was boss)
AND MANY MORE THAT I CAN'T REMEMBER,

rx7speed

120 in a 1/4 mile?

from what starting speed?

rx7speed

not even close

try mine

http://rx7speed.homestead.com/files/...inkin_park.mp3


http://rx7speed.homestead.com/files/sounds/idle2.mp3

BikertrashDude

think about what you are saying...if you go 120mph in the 1/4 then you what, have a 11 sec car??????
you need to rephrase your statment.
biker

Tom91Bird

iTrader: (5)

I'm not gonna mention any names but I think that some people here need to stop tuning their 2.8's with the garage door closed. Either that or go easier on the carb cleaner.

SOLID LIFTER

BikertrashDude

lol
biker

DUSTINZ28

yo chill out, from red light to red light its like a little over a quarter mile, and yes, my car will hit 120 on it, and who is this chick with all the attitude? lol, glad to se some girls who know what there talkign about, but yea its a lil over a quarter...calm down..dont get ur panties in a bunch lol

fly89gta

iTrader: (1)

:sillylol: :sillylol: :sillylol: :sillylol:

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight dude a "little" over a 1/4 mile and you're at 120? yeah, sure...

i think u need to grab the measuring tape and re-think what you're saying, 120 MPH traps speeds in the 1/4 is a 10 second car..so a "little" over a 1/4 mile would put u at what? 12's?? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH

fly89gta

iTrader: (1)

let me rephrase, a REAL V6 can do 120 in the 1/4, not a 2.8, not a bad engine for a economical standpoint but no hot rod engine obviously, keep dreaming if you think you're 2.8 is doing 120 in that short of distance..

evil t/a

So your are saying that your 2.8 boat anchor powered car is faster down the 1/4 mile than just about every stock car ever produced ?



You do know that there are people here that know what they are talking about right?

DUSTINZ28

ok how about we all calm down, lol, i asked a buddy of mine, and he said its just under a half mile..so i was off. my mistake, get off my back, i realize that after i said it it sounded kinda off..but yea its a lil under a half mile.... and yes i do understand tehre are people who know what there talking about here, so why act like im some lil punk that dont know what hes talking ab out? im aloud to make a single mistake..jeez....u people...lol

evil t/a

You kept repeating the same mistake after you were called on it. And I will say for the record that 2.8s are not quick or fast unless you are used to riding a three legged pony with asthma.

guy are dicks about the 2.8...mine hit 120 like its nothing, nd it only takes me a few seconds...nothing like u guys are talking about...jeez...be nicer to the v6 guys..one of these days, ull race one and itll byte ur ***..
yea 140 sounds a lil fast..but it only takes me about a quarter mile to hit 120...ive done it several times, the only reason i lift is because i hafta stop for the next red light lol im just saying, everyone thinks we have lawn mower engines, and the 2.8s are actually pretty quick, unless u are in second and floor it and it doesnt downshift..the nthat sux..

yo chill out, from red light to red light its like a little over a quarter mile, and yes, my car will hit 120 on it, and who is this chick with all the attitude? lol, glad to se some girls who know what there talkign about, but yea its a lil over a quarter...calm down..dont get ur panties in a bunch lol

Tom91Bird

iTrader: (5)

Maybe you put in some 4.10's and forgot to change your speedo gears? Either that or the red lights that you are talking about are at the top of a really steep hill or something? Anyway, lets just say that you even hit 110 in the quarter mile (pretty darn fast for most V8s), it would take you at least another 1/4 mile to gain the extra 10mph to hit 120. Don't forget that wind resistance is a directly squared realationship and the 2.8 isn't gonna push through it like you're claiming.

DUSTINZ28

i have had people in the car..well one guy, that witnessed..120...no gear change or nething...so it doesnt matter if it doesnt "calculate up to whatever ur saying" it was 120..and ur right the road wasnt completley flat..it was a VERY SMALL downgrade...i can hit 110 on the way up..and 120 on the way down.

TunedPortZ

i guess since my engine is about twice the size of yours , i can go like 220 mph in a quarter mile . Man maybe i should call the NHRA pro stock divison and let them know about that one Bu t any ways you just need to think about what you are saying , your talking about a 120 hp car hitting 120 mph, in even a half a mile is way off. especially in a heavy f-body. my car will only get about 90 in the quarter, and thats with my mods. just think before you type next time .

OneHotV6

This is a really funny thread... I owned an '89 Camaro RS with the 2.8 slug in it and couldn't get out of its own way. Even if I floored it, it barely would spin the tires... A friend of mine had a brand new Camaro coupe back in '88 and he'd get killed by a lot of cars.

120 in a half mile....?? I seriously doubt it.. My GN would probably hit that speed in a half mile and I really don't think your 2.8 with 135hp can compete with the hp of a TR. Don't all the sport coupe/RS models come with a 110 speedo? Mine did... and I didn't think the top speed can go as high as 120?

Maybe you forgot to mention that you have NOS in the trunk?

TBI305Camaro

I think alot of you 2.8 dude are smoking weed seriously I dont see a 2.8 smoking a 3000GT even without the turbos. In my car I have outran a stealth non turbo, non all wheel drive. Manager at works owns it. I pulled about 3 car lengths from 0-50ish before i stopped. Her car is kinda ragged out but nowhere near as many miles as mine. My poor old 5.0 has trouble beating things even with mods so i dont see the 2.8s smoking everyone like you all are makin on to be. Time for a 5.7 yeeeaaaa

Just about any car will spin the tires alittle with crappy tires on it. Even a 2.8 camaro. Go stick a set of GOOD z rated tires on there and see if you can make them spin. with my old 15x7 firehawks ss10s i could smoke THE tire across my work parking lot with ease. Now i pull maybe 15 feet and thats it. And i even added some power to it. Soon as i get about 700 more bones Ill be ordering a lo5, hotter cam, and then switching her over. yay i cant wait.

89camaroRSV6

some things need to be clear here ..
.
2.8 cannot reach 120 with the stock chip
plus the tranny doesnt go OD on WOT ..stupid 700R4

i have hit 109-110 in Drive @ something like 5500 RPM
but i have the B&M upshift valve so it goes OD on WOT
the max ive gone is something like in OD 129..(way off after the speedo end)

unless u ahve that valve it will never go to OD unless u let the throttle a little and let it shift....

ive raced a dodge stealth 94 from start and beaten him to 60...
the only reason i beat him was because of my shift kit and the torque i have at lower RPMS than him

but i dont see anyone with a 2.8 (unless its totally modded) beating the same stealth on top end ..(cos that car really makes power in the upper RPM band)...

rx7speed

I think a stealth would put out even more low end torque then your car


if I remember right more displacenemt, longer stroke, and quite a bit more tech into it

I would really like a full list of mods as to what you have done to your car

it is not too far off from a z06 vette, hell you would have given my turbo rx-7 a really good run even and I was putting something like 300hp to the wheels with around 2700lbs to the car

so that must mean your 3300lb car is putting about 350-400hp to the wheels

again please can we get a full list of mods on your car

89camaroRSV6

i dont know what the torque of that stealth is ..if i do a google search i can find that out...

but ive driven the car that i beat and from 0-30 mph the car is a dog..
only if the RPMS go over 3000 it makes power ..before that my camaro feels more powerful..

and i didnt deny the fact thatr it has a faster top end..but what im saying is 0-60 ...its not very good...
its a 94 dodge stealth 3.0 v6

brodyscamaro

toms a chick haha, watch them panties tom

OneHotV6

There's a few models of the Stealth, the base has 164hp and 185ft. lbs of torque.. and the R/T has 222hp and 201ft lbs. of torque. The 0-60 of the R/T and 3000GT SL is around 6-7 seconds and the base (Stealth) is a bit slower, probably around the 9-10 second range.

Mine isn't the greatest off the line but I can get a 0-60 in 6 seconds with no problem. And, I can tell you that no 2.8 stock would take me in a 0-60 run unless I spun the tires..

89camaroRSV6

well my mods are below...

but im not the one claiming to have stayed with it till 120 (or overtaken one ..)

i beat the 94 stealth 0-60 there was no doubt about that one..i know the dood with the stealth and yes we were racing ...
his is auto so is mine (he had his power mode on and in Drive)

ohhh i beat him with my camaro..(my bike will eat that thing for breakfast...)

MDv6man

From what's stated above I'd have to say that a 2.8 could beat a ragged out 3000gt if the 2.8 is tuned up / well maintained. A well tuned 2.8 has been known to beat a 305 TBI (and by quite a bit if the 305 isn't maintained

DOOSKI

TBI305Camaro

Oh yeah Im definetly scared of those in-tune 2.8s...WTF. Either way Im not worried about it now Im pretty sure Im buying a supercharged 5.0 mustang GT off a buddy of mine so thats gonna get all my money and the camaro will stay exactly how it is now. I dont think ill have to worry about 2.8s in a 91 5.0 mustang with a psi paxton, 3.73 gears, and full exhaust.

MDv6man

Nope

89camaroRSV6

but when u are in ur TBI u better watch out
i have outrun them many times...

Tom91Bird

iTrader: (5)

I wouldn't count on that too much. Even when I had my 305, I wasn't worried about 2.8's or 3.1's in thirdgens. Since I still have TBI, should I still watch out too?

brodyscamaro

89camaroRSV6

stock TBI aint all that fast..what do u think they run in the 1/4 anyways ...and besides that ..they have no high end at all...



and tom91 ur TBI is far from stock....

TBI305Camaro

granted your car is in perfect running order you may be able to outrun those ragged out POS thirdgens that run around. Most have 200k miles and 100k old spark plugs. Besides if i dont get the mustang which has a 9 psi (didnt show in other post) anyways ill be swapping in a 350 with a mild cam, and a small shot of n2o to top that off.