alright guys don't turn this into a pissing contest, just cause someone has an import doesn't make them a *****, hell i've seen some VERY tasteless domesticated rice, frankly all rice and their owners should be banished to the moon

 

I agre that not all imports are rice, but saying there are alot of 9 second imports narrows it down to the super imports! Lets put it this way, a Civic is NOT in the same league, and will nevwer be in the same league as a Supra or 3000GT. I have NEVER seen or heard of a 9second street driven Civic, but I have seen 9 second street driven Mustangs, Camaros, Chevelles, Vipers, Novas, Falcons, and many more!

 

Not me.



A mod that dropped my 1/4 mi. time like a tenth of a second. So stock, I'd probably run 16.5 with that 60'. And your point?



Stock for stock, yes. It's been proven.



Yes, 100% bone stock. The Auto EGT is much slower than the manual. Average times are in the 16s for the Auto/Sportronic.



Please show me where I said that Eclipse's were drag racing cars. Oh so you're getting your information from a bunch of biased DSM guys? DSM guys hate the 3G Eclipse more than any car group. You think they'd tell you the Eclipse GT is about equal to a GS-T and GSX?

 

You my friend, are truly a dumbass

 

I have a FWD import and I don't bitch about it being hard to launch.

Hmm... I have no altezzas or a body kit yet I drive an import.

Try launching a FWD car with 350 lb/ft of torque on street tires with stock suspension.

Just like the Camaro guys you run into with their ******s and ****ed up teeth.

I remember reading about a Supra breaking into the 8's in the street class. Perhaps it was NHRA? I can't remember.

And you're the prime example

Here's what you are: An uninformed, ignorant, bigoted, dumbass. Now please go shoot yourself.

 

That wasn't directed at you, pakman. Sorry.

That makes your car a 16 second car, stock.

What's the weight difference between a 2nd (or even first) gen GSX and a 3G Eclipse GT? That's the only way I might even believe a GT can hang with a GSX. All the GSX's I've seen (saw a first gen one yesterday) click off 13.9's to 14.3's on average, I've never seen and 3G get anywhere close to that.

You didn't, I said that in support of another point.

It wasn't NHRA, maybe another series. The current Street class record in NHRA sport compact is 9.68, and yes, it was a Supra. There's a 9 second street driven Supra that runs around here somewhere. Rumour has it that it's pushing 600 hp at the wheels.

:hail: Supra. (But I prefer a VR4, my sister has one.)

(Not to flame here.) As for domestic owners being more technically knowledgeable, it might be true for V8's, but an import engine is a whole different ball of wax. They might learn some tricks from us, but we've had almost 50 years to tinker with our Chevy engine. So we have a little head start. I can personally identify most parts in my gf's Eclipse's engine, but I'll be damned if I knew how much (if any) I could bore the cylinders or what duration cam(s) would give me best power. It's like comparing oranges and grapefruit.

 

It's cool.

GSX weighs about 3,400 lbs. GT weighs about 3,200 lbs. Are you saying a stock DSM turbo can pull off a 13.9 to 14.3? If so, you are on crack . Most pull low to mid 15s. Sometimes high 14s if they're one hell of a driver.

Understood.

Ahh... maybe it was that. I'm not too sure, it's vague in my memory. Yes, Supra's are badass

I guess if you put it like that, you are right. The way he made it sound was like domestic guys know more about cars in general. Trying to say that there are no guys in the import scene that know anything. Such an ignorant statement, don't you think?