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Old 05-01-2013 | 10:01 PM
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89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

My 89 L98 GTA has had a pretty good oil leak since last year. Went through a quart in 200 miles This whole time i thought it was my intake or distributor seal. Noticed recently that there was even some spatter patterns on the firewall

upon further inspection and using oil dye, it seemed that there was a lot of dye around this plug that is on the top rear of the engine block. a buddy of mine has an 88 GTA and said that's where his oil sender is. however mine is located on the bottom by the oil filter

So do these commonly leak? it would make sense with it being under a lot of pressure and whatnot.
Old 05-01-2013 | 10:30 PM
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Re: 89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

It's exposed to what ever oil pressure the engine normally produces. I'd take out the plug and make sure it's not cross threaded. Clean the threads, apply some Teflon pipe thread tape, put it back in tight but not overtight. Don't want to strip the threads
Old 05-04-2013 | 07:25 PM
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Re: 89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

Is there a tool you recommend to remove it? I'm trying to do this without having to remove the lower intake..
Old 05-04-2013 | 08:01 PM
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Re: 89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

I don't know for sure without seeing the plug. Mine has the sender unit in that spot, which I recently changed with just a wrench, didn't have to any intake parts off.
Old 05-04-2013 | 09:01 PM
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Re: 89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

If it has the factory plug you need a little 8pt socket.
Old 05-05-2013 | 12:16 PM
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Re: 89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

These can be problematic with leaking, the factory oil sensors on the small block engines often end up with an oil trail all the way down the bell housing. Like Lonestar7 said, teflon tape it and reinstall or get a slightly longer plug from a hardware store for more thread contact and use 4 to 5 wraps of teflon.
Old 05-07-2013 | 08:12 PM
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Re: 89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

I have the same problem did u ever fix your leak? I took my plug out which had a square end on it Teflon taped it and put it back in and it still leaks a little when revving engine. Is the square plug the original plug? Should I try a longer plug?
Old 05-07-2013 | 09:45 PM
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Re: 89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

I just wrapped a lot of Teflon tape around the threads and then got it nice and tight. Still in the process of putting it back together. I'm not liking that you said it still leaks after you did that lol
Old 05-07-2013 | 09:47 PM
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Re: 89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

does your plug look like this?
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Old 05-07-2013 | 09:52 PM
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Re: 89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

Very similar yes
Old 05-07-2013 | 09:59 PM
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Re: 89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

Maybe I should put more tape on it. Did you remove the dizzy to get it out? I am going to take it out again and try to fine a better plug. I really thought I had it fixed did not leak for a couple days tell I started to beat on it then it started to leaking slowly.
Old 05-07-2013 | 10:02 PM
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Re: 89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

Yep I found that removing the dizzy made things easier. Try more tape and see if that works. Did you use a 9/32 wrench to take the plug out?
Old 05-07-2013 | 10:05 PM
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Re: 89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

I used a 7mm wrench it was a super tight fit did not want to strip it. lol
Old 05-07-2013 | 10:10 PM
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Re: 89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

I really just don't get how it would leak even without the Teflon tape the plug was super tight to begin with.
Old 05-07-2013 | 10:20 PM
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Re: 89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

Yea mine was tight too. I really hope it fixes it cause the *** of my car is covered in oil lol
Old 05-07-2013 | 10:28 PM
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Re: 89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

the last time you changed your oil did u add any oil additive like stp or lucas ?
Old 05-07-2013 | 10:34 PM
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Re: 89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

Nah. I feel weird putting anything other than oil in there.
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Re: 89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

A 8pt socket set is what you need for this. Be very careful on how tight you go with it because the back of the china wall can break off if its to tight.
Maybe thats whats going on, a small crack in the wall. Hope not!!!
Old 05-07-2013 | 11:10 PM
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Re: 89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

I hope not too. I've never messed with it til now so I really hope there's no crack
Old 05-10-2013 | 10:10 AM
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Re: 89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

Got everything back together and didn't fix the leak one bit
Old 05-10-2013 | 10:30 AM
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Re: 89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

Sounds more like a china wall leak.
Old 05-10-2013 | 12:04 PM
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Re: 89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

I suppose there's no way to fix that other than a new block huh
Old 05-10-2013 | 12:10 PM
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Re: 89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

Originally Posted by blackbeauty89
I suppose there's no way to fix that other than a new block huh
Just R&R the manifold and redo the RTV.
Old 05-10-2013 | 12:15 PM
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Re: 89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

Originally Posted by Dyno Don
Just R&R the manifold and redo the RTV.
Did that 6 months ago. Plus the oil is coming out too quick IMO to be an intake leak. There was some oil spray on the firewall too. It's gotta be something under pressure
Old 05-10-2013 | 12:29 PM
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Re: 89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

Have you actually seen any oil leaking with the engine running? Have someone rev it while you watch the area where you think the leak is with a bright flashlight. I wonder if it could be leaking somewhere around the dizzy shaft?
Old 05-10-2013 | 03:16 PM
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Re: 89 TPI. Oil sender plug leak

I put some oil dye in there and used a UV light and that's where most of the uv light showed up
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