help me pick heads
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Car: 1984 chevy camaro
Engine: 355
Transmission: turbo 350 2800 stall
Axle/Gears: 3:73 detroit locker posi
help me pick heads
im on the market for new heads and not sure on what brand or type to get.
i have a 355 sbc, the edelbrock performer cam, edelbrock 600cfm carb, air gap intake. i want to be able to hit 12s and heads are the only thing holding me back... any suggestions or preferences? and is the carb to small for my application?
i have a 355 sbc, the edelbrock performer cam, edelbrock 600cfm carb, air gap intake. i want to be able to hit 12s and heads are the only thing holding me back... any suggestions or preferences? and is the carb to small for my application?
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Car: 1988 Camaro
Engine: 377
Transmission: TH350; Circle D 4200 converter
Axle/Gears: Ford 9"
Re: help me pick heads
I suggest Chad Speier over Tony Mamo. Chad has no problems explaining things to where even the common man can understand complex terms. He's spent a few hours on the phone over several occasions helping me understand various dynamics, and he doesn't charge out his nose for a good product. I can't question Tony's experience, but I don't like the way he does business. I think he's too prideful honestly (NOT the same as having pride in your job!), but that's just my opinion. Lloyd Elliot is also a great guy; equally as helpful as Chad. He's a straight shooter as well and I wouldn't hesitate to buy anything from him. Very knowledgable individual.
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Car: 1984 chevy camaro
Engine: 355
Transmission: turbo 350 2800 stall
Axle/Gears: 3:73 detroit locker posi
Re: help me pick heads
i was also wondering if edelbrock heads or summit heads would work also
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Car: 1984 chevy camaro
Engine: 355
Transmission: turbo 350 2800 stall
Axle/Gears: 3:73 detroit locker posi
Re: help me pick heads
the cam im using is:
Brand: Edelbrock
Manufacturer's Part Number: 7102
Part Type: Camshaft and Lifter Kits
Product Line: Edelbrock Performer RPM Cam and Lifter Kits
Summit Racing Part Number: EDL-7102
UPC: 085347071029
Cam Style: Hydraulic flat tappet
Basic Operating RPM Range: 1,500-6,500
Intake Duration at 050 inch Lift: 234
Exhaust Duration at 050 inch Lift: 244
Duration at 050 inch Lift: 234 int./244 exh.
Advertised Intake Duration: 308
Advertised Exhaust Duration: 318
Advertised Duration: 308 int./318 exh.
Intake Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.488 in.
Exhaust Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.510 in.
Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.488 int./0.510 exh.
Lobe Separation (degrees): 112
Computer-Controlled Compatible: No
Lifters Included: Yes
Lifter Style: Hydraulic flat tappet
Valve Springs Included: No
Retainers Included: No
Locks Included: No
Valve Stem Seals Included: No
Timing Chain and Gears Included: No
Assembly Lubricant Included: Yes
Pushrods Included: No
Rocker Arms Included: No
Gaskets Included: No
Valve Springs Required: Yes
Quantity: Sold as a kit.
Notes: Although the advertised RPM range for these camshafts is 1,500 to 6,500 rpm, for best performance we recommend a minimum 3,000 rpm stall torque converter be used in applications with automatic transmissions.
Heads im looking at:
Brand: Dart
Manufacturer's Part Number: 127322
Part Type: Cylinder Heads
Product Line: Dart SHP Special High Performance Cylinder Heads
Summit Racing Part Number: DRT-127322
Cylinder Head Style: Assembled
Cylinder Head Material: Aluminum
Cylinder Head Finish: Natural
Combustion Chamber Volume (cc): 64
CNC-Machined Combustion Chamber: No
Intake Runner Volume (cc): 200cc
Exhaust Runner Volume (cc): 75cc
CNC-Machined Intake Runner: No
CNC-Machined Exhaust Runner: No
Combustion Chamber Style: Heart
Intake Port Location: Standard
Exhaust Port Shape: Square
Exhaust Port Location: Standard
Spark Plug Style: Straight
Intake Valves Included: Yes
Intake Valve Diameter (in): 2.020 in.
Exhaust Valves Included: Yes
Exhaust Valve Diameter (in): 1.600 in.
Valve Springs Included: Yes
Maximum Valve Lift (in): 0.620 in.
Outside Diameter of Outer Spring (in): 1.437 in.
Damper Spring Included: No
Number of Springs Per Valve: Dual
Retainers Included: Yes
Retainer Material: Steel
Locks Included: Yes
Lock Style: 10 degree
Valve Stem Seals Included: Yes
Valve Stem Seal Style: Umbrella
Rocker Arm Studs Included: Yes
Rocker Arm Nut Thread Size: 3/8-24 in.
Rocker Arms Included: No
Rocker Arm Nuts Included: No
Guideplates Included: Yes
Guideplate Pushrod Size: 5/16 in.
Valve Cover Mounting Style: Center and perimeter bolt
Accessory Bolt Holes Drilled: Yes
Intake Valve Angle: 23
Exhaust Valve Angle: 23
Valve Guides Included: Yes
Valve Guide Material: Manganese bronze
Valve Seats Machined: Yes
Valve Seat Machine Style: 5-angle intake/2-angle exhaust
Valve Seat Material: Powdered metal
Steam Holes Drilled: No
Oiling Style: Through pushrod
Machined for O-Ring: No
Heat Crossover: No
Brand: Edelbrock
Manufacturer's Part Number: 7102
Part Type: Camshaft and Lifter Kits
Product Line: Edelbrock Performer RPM Cam and Lifter Kits
Summit Racing Part Number: EDL-7102
UPC: 085347071029
Cam Style: Hydraulic flat tappet
Basic Operating RPM Range: 1,500-6,500
Intake Duration at 050 inch Lift: 234
Exhaust Duration at 050 inch Lift: 244
Duration at 050 inch Lift: 234 int./244 exh.
Advertised Intake Duration: 308
Advertised Exhaust Duration: 318
Advertised Duration: 308 int./318 exh.
Intake Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.488 in.
Exhaust Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.510 in.
Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.488 int./0.510 exh.
Lobe Separation (degrees): 112
Computer-Controlled Compatible: No
Lifters Included: Yes
Lifter Style: Hydraulic flat tappet
Valve Springs Included: No
Retainers Included: No
Locks Included: No
Valve Stem Seals Included: No
Timing Chain and Gears Included: No
Assembly Lubricant Included: Yes
Pushrods Included: No
Rocker Arms Included: No
Gaskets Included: No
Valve Springs Required: Yes
Quantity: Sold as a kit.
Notes: Although the advertised RPM range for these camshafts is 1,500 to 6,500 rpm, for best performance we recommend a minimum 3,000 rpm stall torque converter be used in applications with automatic transmissions.
Heads im looking at:
Brand: Dart
Manufacturer's Part Number: 127322
Part Type: Cylinder Heads
Product Line: Dart SHP Special High Performance Cylinder Heads
Summit Racing Part Number: DRT-127322
Cylinder Head Style: Assembled
Cylinder Head Material: Aluminum
Cylinder Head Finish: Natural
Combustion Chamber Volume (cc): 64
CNC-Machined Combustion Chamber: No
Intake Runner Volume (cc): 200cc
Exhaust Runner Volume (cc): 75cc
CNC-Machined Intake Runner: No
CNC-Machined Exhaust Runner: No
Combustion Chamber Style: Heart
Intake Port Location: Standard
Exhaust Port Shape: Square
Exhaust Port Location: Standard
Spark Plug Style: Straight
Intake Valves Included: Yes
Intake Valve Diameter (in): 2.020 in.
Exhaust Valves Included: Yes
Exhaust Valve Diameter (in): 1.600 in.
Valve Springs Included: Yes
Maximum Valve Lift (in): 0.620 in.
Outside Diameter of Outer Spring (in): 1.437 in.
Damper Spring Included: No
Number of Springs Per Valve: Dual
Retainers Included: Yes
Retainer Material: Steel
Locks Included: Yes
Lock Style: 10 degree
Valve Stem Seals Included: Yes
Valve Stem Seal Style: Umbrella
Rocker Arm Studs Included: Yes
Rocker Arm Nut Thread Size: 3/8-24 in.
Rocker Arms Included: No
Rocker Arm Nuts Included: No
Guideplates Included: Yes
Guideplate Pushrod Size: 5/16 in.
Valve Cover Mounting Style: Center and perimeter bolt
Accessory Bolt Holes Drilled: Yes
Intake Valve Angle: 23
Exhaust Valve Angle: 23
Valve Guides Included: Yes
Valve Guide Material: Manganese bronze
Valve Seats Machined: Yes
Valve Seat Machine Style: 5-angle intake/2-angle exhaust
Valve Seat Material: Powdered metal
Steam Holes Drilled: No
Oiling Style: Through pushrod
Machined for O-Ring: No
Heat Crossover: No
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Car: 1984 chevy camaro
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Re: help me pick heads
not to sound stupid, but whats wrong with the cam thats in the engine? im not a motorhead and would like to know/learn.
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Its alittle lazy and abit big for what you need. Lobes are not that aggressive so you are bleeding off alot of low to mid range power you can pick up with a more aggressive lobe like the lunati voodoo or comps xe grinds or even some others. Crane had a few good cams.
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i agree with Orr. thats good advice on a cam recommendation, & the heads too.
it would be nice to get a posi down the road when you can afford it. what stall converter are you using now?
it would be nice to get a posi down the road when you can afford it. what stall converter are you using now?
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Car: 1984 chevy camaro
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Transmission: turbo 350 2800 stall
Axle/Gears: 3:73 detroit locker posi
Re: help me pick heads
2800 i got a posi and 3.73 gears. do you have a part number that i can reference off of?
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Car: 1984 chevy camaro
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Transmission: turbo 350 2800 stall
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Re: help me pick heads
ok im going to go with the shp heads but the valve springs arnt going to work very well. im going to go with the springs rated for my cam. question is how hard is it to swap them out, and do i need to just by springs, or springs and the retainers?
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