alternator problem! wot charge
#1
alternator problem! wot charge
did a v6 to v8 swap. during the swap my friend snipped a few wires that i have no idea where they went.
my alternators ( i tryed 3 and they all tested fine on my other car) wont charge so i figure its a wiring problem
its a 91 z28 alternator wiring. i looked all over online bt i can not find what the wires do on the alternator. gauge work so i guess thats wired up fine.
does it need key on power to any of the wires?
honestly if i get a diagram of the cnnector i can figure it out i cannot find it anywhere on the internet!
any help is appreciated!
my alternators ( i tryed 3 and they all tested fine on my other car) wont charge so i figure its a wiring problem
its a 91 z28 alternator wiring. i looked all over online bt i can not find what the wires do on the alternator. gauge work so i guess thats wired up fine.
does it need key on power to any of the wires?
honestly if i get a diagram of the cnnector i can figure it out i cannot find it anywhere on the internet!
any help is appreciated!
#3
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Car: 1967 Camaro, 91 z28
Engine: Lb9
Transmission: M20
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Re: alternator problem! wot charge
http://www.austinthirdgen.org/index.php?pid=19
it is a cs alternator, you can run a wire from the bat terminal to the exciter
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=207958
it is a cs alternator, you can run a wire from the bat terminal to the exciter
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=207958
#4
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From: Bloomfield, IN
Car: 87 Camaro
Engine: 305
Transmission: 700R4
Re: alternator problem! wot charge
Won't wiring it to a constant 12v burn the alternator up?
Yeah, don't wire it straight to the battery. "Caution: if you connect a full 12 volts to the "L" terminal without the resistor it will cause the voltage regulator to fail"
http://www.alternatorparts.com/GM_De...ng_diagram.htm
Yeah, don't wire it straight to the battery. "Caution: if you connect a full 12 volts to the "L" terminal without the resistor it will cause the voltage regulator to fail"
http://www.alternatorparts.com/GM_De...ng_diagram.htm
Last edited by Awesome-X; 12-13-2011 at 06:35 PM. Reason: Added important information
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Car: 1967 Camaro, 91 z28
Engine: Lb9
Transmission: M20
Axle/Gears: J65 pbr on stock posi 10bolt
Re: alternator problem! wot charge
no it wont burn it up, the exciter usually gets its power from the ignition switch. I have done this on cs and si with no issues.
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Transmission: M20
Axle/Gears: J65 pbr on stock posi 10bolt
Re: alternator problem! wot charge
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From: Bloomfield, IN
Car: 87 Camaro
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Re: alternator problem! wot charge
Well I guess I could be wrong but I think it'll burn up if you leave it connected to a constant source of power, which is why it's connected to an ignition source with a resistor. My brother law has burned a couple up running them to constant hot sources in his drag cars and demo cars.
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Car: '86 TA
Engine: '74 350
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Re: alternator problem! wot charge
On the linked pigtail - red wire with the eye terminal goes on the batt+ post, the white (brown on the attached circuit) goes to switched ign thru a resistor/idiot light.
#9
Re: alternator problem! wot charge
thanks everyone. i have it wired up right. but i guess my 12v ignition on may have fried or i mis read the multimeter.
i got big red to batt. what are the other 2 wires for? i believe i hooked the white to 12v key on. but there is still 1 wire left o.0 ?
i got big red to batt. what are the other 2 wires for? i believe i hooked the white to 12v key on. but there is still 1 wire left o.0 ?
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Re: alternator problem! wot charge
Sorry man, i assumed you had an si alt - do you have a cs? Never used one myself, besides the main output stud they have 4 terminals S, L, F and P.
In addition to Awesome's link up in post 4, this explains the terminals pretty well (on the second page):
http://www.alternatorparts.com/cs130_sbpage1.htm
In addition to Awesome's link up in post 4, this explains the terminals pretty well (on the second page):
http://www.alternatorparts.com/cs130_sbpage1.htm
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Re: alternator problem! wot charge
Sorry man, i assumed you had an si alt - do you have a cs? Never used one myself, besides the main output stud they have 4 terminals S, L, F and P.
In addition to Awesome's link up in post 4, this explains the terminals pretty well (on the second page):
http://www.alternatorparts.com/cs130_sbpage1.htm
In addition to Awesome's link up in post 4, this explains the terminals pretty well (on the second page):
http://www.alternatorparts.com/cs130_sbpage1.htm
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Re: alternator problem! wot charge
okay i have l linked to a 12v source. f isnt connected to anything and s is going to the battery.
no alt output. i took a 12 v source off a relay. and even tryed a battery cahrger to pwer L still no power. the s power take on or off dosnt do anything. ad the main supply to the batt is hooked up.
i dont get it. this is the only thing holding me up from finsihing it. brand new alternator. worked for a minute then nothing after that. went back to autozone and it tested okay. wtf!!!!!
no alt output. i took a 12 v source off a relay. and even tryed a battery cahrger to pwer L still no power. the s power take on or off dosnt do anything. ad the main supply to the batt is hooked up.
i dont get it. this is the only thing holding me up from finsihing it. brand new alternator. worked for a minute then nothing after that. went back to autozone and it tested okay. wtf!!!!!
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Car: 1967 Camaro, 91 z28
Engine: Lb9
Transmission: M20
Axle/Gears: J65 pbr on stock posi 10bolt
Re: alternator problem! wot charge
S- sence wire, f- Ingintion , L- alt light , p- nc
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Car: 1967 Camaro, 91 z28
Engine: Lb9
Transmission: M20
Axle/Gears: J65 pbr on stock posi 10bolt
#19
Re: alternator problem! wot charge
thanks for the info. i was hooking up L to 12 v key on( because the diagram looked like L went to 12v key on). and i guess it fryed the alt because i went back to autozone a 3rd time and it fails.
now i got a new alt. and going to try wiring it up again. due to wrok scedual i wont be able to try it till sat. so il give an update then.
now i got a new alt. and going to try wiring it up again. due to wrok scedual i wont be able to try it till sat. so il give an update then.
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From: Mile High Country !!!
Car: 1967 Camaro, 91 z28
Engine: Lb9
Transmission: M20
Axle/Gears: J65 pbr on stock posi 10bolt
Re: alternator problem! wot charge
don't let the smoke out of this alternator, Good luck !!!
#21
Re: alternator problem! wot charge
okay 3rd genners thanks for all the help i believe i found the problem.
as always people forgetto include data like me.
when i fryed the new alt it happened when i hooked up the fan. i kept the ground hooked up to te cmputer and gave the black/redstriped wire 12v key on.
car ran and once i turned key off and out it stayed running for approx 30 seconds.
this may have causes a spike through the systems. new alt in wired the same minus the fans and it charges like a champ!.
now should i wire up the fan to a swtich then lol?
as always people forgetto include data like me.
when i fryed the new alt it happened when i hooked up the fan. i kept the ground hooked up to te cmputer and gave the black/redstriped wire 12v key on.
car ran and once i turned key off and out it stayed running for approx 30 seconds.
this may have causes a spike through the systems. new alt in wired the same minus the fans and it charges like a champ!.
now should i wire up the fan to a swtich then lol?
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