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Old 09-12-2010 | 09:30 PM
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88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

I have been trying to get this running for a while now and i give up and need your help!!! It turns over it gets spark i checked for pulse with a noid light at every connector the light blinked at all of them. The injectors are all at 16.9 ohms!! The fuel pressure is 42 psi i changed the fuel filter i also tried a different ECM!! I have also checked all pin outs on the ecm for proper voltage and i tried a different ign module and coil!! I just checked for 1.5 volt ref pulse while cranking at a ppl/wht wire!! I have sprayed starter fluid and no go!! PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!
Old 09-12-2010 | 09:40 PM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

If your getting spark, fuel, and assuming your getting air (I have actually seen air filters so clogged the motor wouldnt start), then the timing is probably off. I would try checking the timing while cranking the motor over.

Some more info on the car may help though. Mostly, what led to it not starting?
Old 09-12-2010 | 09:57 PM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

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If your getting spark, fuel, and assuming your getting air (I have actually seen air filters so clogged the motor wouldnt start), then the timing is probably off. I would try checking the timing while cranking the motor over.

Some more info on the car may help though. Mostly, what led to it not starting?
It started running crappy very rich stong smell of unburnt fuel and now will not start.
Old 09-12-2010 | 11:58 PM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

Please any help woul be great...
Old 09-13-2010 | 11:02 AM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

Guys i know the people on here are the best this car is driving up a wall so please any info would be great. Thanks
Old 09-13-2010 | 11:13 AM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

whats the mileage? Maybe the timing chain slipped, they do stretch over time.
Old 09-13-2010 | 11:20 AM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

Originally Posted by EFIhead
whats the mileage? Maybe the timing chain slipped, they do stretch over time.
The milage is 105,000 miles or 170,000 kms if it is a dist or timing problem what should i do?

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Old 09-13-2010 | 12:50 PM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

I had a hard starting issue once and poor idle quality with the TPI setup. Turned out my distributor clamp actually was broke and would rattle the distributor enough it would adjust the timing constantly and retard it like crazy.

Did you change plugs or pull the distributor out before this happened? I'm just wondering if you have the timing out of adjustment or even the firing order off.
Old 09-13-2010 | 08:30 PM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

Originally Posted by fireturd350
I had a hard starting issue once and poor idle quality with the TPI setup. Turned out my distributor clamp actually was broke and would rattle the distributor enough it would adjust the timing constantly and retard it like crazy.

Did you change plugs or pull the distributor out before this happened? I'm just wondering if you have the timing out of adjustment or even the firing order off.
I did change plugs a couple of years ago the car just sits stored!!
i have checked the firing order and i have not removed the dist but i will now be checking for a timing issue!!

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Old 09-14-2010 | 10:29 AM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

Have you verified the timing is correct?
Old 09-14-2010 | 10:35 AM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

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Have you verified the timing is correct?
Timing is my next and last check if that aint it i give up!!
Old 09-14-2010 | 10:28 PM
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Old 09-14-2010 | 11:07 PM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

Originally Posted by bmwm3
So you have not checked the timing and your still asking for help???

Make yourself a check list and go 1 by 1 on everything!! then let us know whats going on and how far you have gone.
Old 09-18-2010 | 12:26 AM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

I had a problem similar to this. I unpluged the mass air flow sensor and it started fine. It was a bad maf sensor. I can't remember if 1988 TPI's still had the maf.
Old 09-18-2010 | 01:58 AM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

what about a badly plugged catalytic converter or
exhaust?
Old 09-21-2010 | 03:21 PM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

Just back rfom the car!! Put the #1 cyl in TDC the rotor was pointing in the right direction!! The car still does not start any other ideas????
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Old 09-21-2010 | 06:57 PM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

What did the plug look like-was it soaked with gas or
carboned up? Also if you shoot some gas or starting
fluid into the throttle body does the car chuff or pop
like it is trying to start? Exhaust verified as clear?
Old 09-21-2010 | 07:17 PM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

Originally Posted by 8t2 z-chev
What did the plug look like-was it soaked with gas or
carboned up? Also if you shoot some gas or starting
fluid into the throttle body does the car chuff or pop
like it is trying to start? Exhaust verified as clear?

The plug was not very wet but was black and had carbon!! I tried starting fluid and nothing different! Im not sure how to verify if exhast is clear?

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Old 09-21-2010 | 07:56 PM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

Did you happen to unplug the maf? The computer has parameters preset for limp home mode. It may start up, but driveability is effected.
Old 09-21-2010 | 08:12 PM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

Originally Posted by slowpoke
Did you happen to unplug the maf? The computer has parameters preset for limp home mode. It may start up, but driveability is effected.
I have tried to start it with the maf unpluged!! NO GO!!
Old 09-21-2010 | 09:28 PM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

Several ways to check if there is flow through exhaust:
- rubber band a small plastic sack on each exhaust pipe
and crank-if there is flow the sacks will inflate...
-have someone feel for exhaust "puffs"while cranking
hold throttle partway open for best results...
-take off intake pipe and rubber band a small plastic
sack to the throttle body intake and see if it tries to
suck in while cranking...
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Old 09-21-2010 | 11:07 PM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

Have you pulled the dist. cap. Check contacts on it and rotor button.
Old 09-21-2010 | 11:43 PM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

Have you checked your throttle position sensor? Could be flooding motor. Technical Article: IAC and TPS Adjustment (on this site) can help with testing.
Old 09-22-2010 | 12:56 AM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

Originally Posted by slowpoke
Have you checked your throttle position sensor? Could be flooding motor. Technical Article: IAC and TPS Adjustment (on this site) can help with testing.
I checked all the settings for those to sensors!! tps .54 volts and iac valve hadd a measurement that i just adjusted!! This thing is making me mental it has all the things that an engine need to run but this thing will not start!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 09-22-2010 | 01:04 AM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

Would a video be helpful?
Old 09-22-2010 | 11:59 AM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

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Would a video be helpful?
What video are you talking about????
Old 09-22-2010 | 12:54 PM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

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What video are you talking about????
I was just saying, maybe if you took a video of what was going on it may be helpful? Just a thought.
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Old 09-23-2010 | 10:27 PM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

Originally Posted by slowpoke
Have you pulled the dist. cap. Check contacts on it and rotor button.
Also did you check for good ground on motor(ground strap motor to body). Mine is on the pass. side back intake bolt I believe.
Old 09-24-2010 | 12:40 PM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

Originally Posted by slowpoke
Also did you check for good ground on motor(ground strap motor to body). Mine is on the pass. side back intake bolt I believe.
I have checked all grounds!!
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

Have you checked that the cat is not plugged?
Old 09-24-2010 | 07:14 PM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

Maybe it's already been suggested but the fuel pump is functioning and the injectors are good? Fuel/Air, compression, spark. Somethings missing or not functioning properly.
Old 09-24-2010 | 09:26 PM
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Re: 88 GTA 5.7 TPI will not start!!

What about the maf power relay? Has it been checked?
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