can i use head #14101083 on a 305?
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can i use head #14101083 on a 305?
looking to replace 14102187 swirl heads with a set of heads from a 350 (cause I have a set laying around).Will the 1/4" difference in bore size cause a problem? Any help is appreciated very much...thanks
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Re: can i use head #14101083 on a 305?
You are better off with the 187s than the 083s with their larger chambers. That is unless you are going to supercharge it or hit it hard with nitrous.
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Re: can i use head #14101083 on a 305?
To answer your question the 083 heads will fit with no problems on your 305. Ever notice that the same head gaskets fit 305/350's?
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Re: can i use head #14101083 on a 305?
thanks guys...I was hoping with a thin head gasket I could overcome the larger chamber and get the compression back up with the larger chambers?
any thoughts
any thoughts
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Re: can i use head #14101083 on a 305?
yes,already have dual exhaust installed with no cats, changing cam and looking to dump the tbi for holley and use msd ignition box.
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Re: can i use head #14101083 on a 305?
Out of curiosity, what makes you want to dump the tbi for a Holley with no feedback? Have you maxed out the tbi's flow capability?
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Re: can i use head #14101083 on a 305?
mostly because when I change something I dont want to constantly have to change the chip and I can also go to multiple spark discharge.
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Re: can i use head #14101083 on a 305?
You can go MSD without switching to Carb. I would actually go Crane Hi6 rather than MSD.
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
The 083s have 65ish CC chambers vs. the 56cc chambers of your 187s. That will drop your compression more than 1 full point, even with .016" compressed rubber embossed 350 steel shim gaskets!
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Re: can i use head #14101083 on a 305?
thanks for all the info guys..im going to go with world 58cc heads rather than mess with the swirlies or 083,s
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Re: can i use head #14101083 on a 305?
are they easily attainable for under 1500.00?
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are they easily attainable for under $1500.00?
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are they easily attainable for under $1500.00?
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Re: can i use head #14101083 on a 305?
do you know what the chamber size is cause im looking to stay under 60cc so I dont loose to much compression..where would I find newer take offs?
thanks
thanks
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Re: can i use head #14101083 on a 305?
Just an example of where they can be found. These are sold, but I see probably 1 pair a month on the classifieds here.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...-aluminum.html
You can still get them brand new but you might as well go aftermarket if you decide to go that way.
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
The alternative would be the 56cc Trickflows with 175cc intake ports. (1.94/1.50 valves, but 245/180 cfm of flow @ .450 in a 3.776" bore)
The trickflows will run you about $1,000+ shipping, brand new, with warranty.
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
This build attest to the power of Trickflows, even on a high mileage less than perfect long block. The Edelbrock TES headers and remaining portion of the exhaust system are less than ideal. The little low-rise performer EGR intake was chosen for smog testing and the CCC Q-Jet system was left stock. This engine had ALOT of un-trapped power waiting to be released.
http://chevyhighperformance.automoti...ons/index.html
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