Low vacuum, Poor idle. Please help!
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Low vacuum, Poor idle. Please help!
Hello everyone, I am new to your web site but i thought i might give it a try. I bougth a 88 IROC-Z about 3 months ago, i had to pull the engine out because of internal damage, so i bought a short block online and rebuilt the engine and put it back in the car. i have the engine running but iam only getting 7-10 in HG at idle and it runs poor and trys to stahl. i found that the TPS sensor was out of specs so i replaced it, and just to make sure i replaced the IAC sensor as well. i was thinking of a vacuum leak, but i taped up the TB and pinched off the vacuum lines and i fed about 15-20 PSI to the intake and i had 3 o-rings for the injectors leaking so i fixed that. it still wasnt solved! i checked the brake booster for a leaky diaphram it was fine, i checked the EGR Valve, it was fine as well. I just dont know now and iam getting tired of redoing work i all ready have done. iam starting to think cracked intake but i know i would have heard that. the valves are adjusted right. compression is good, vavle seal is good. Any ideas people??????? Please help me I have 6 months left in germany and iam trying to fix up this car so i can take it back to the states.
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Where in Germany? I assume you're in the service, which branch? I spent '79-'82 in Mainz in the Army, did a V6 swap in a Vega while I was there.
Anyway, some details about your rebuild would be helpful. Is this a 350 or 305? What did the shortblock come from? What cam did you use? What all did you do for the rebuild?
It could be something simple like a slipped gasket. Or, something more involved like a mis-machined mounting surface. Are you sure you have the simple things covered like spark plug wire firing order?
Where in Germany? I assume you're in the service, which branch? I spent '79-'82 in Mainz in the Army, did a V6 swap in a Vega while I was there.
Anyway, some details about your rebuild would be helpful. Is this a 350 or 305? What did the shortblock come from? What cam did you use? What all did you do for the rebuild?
It could be something simple like a slipped gasket. Or, something more involved like a mis-machined mounting surface. Are you sure you have the simple things covered like spark plug wire firing order?
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Re: Low vacuum, Poor idle. Please help!
Yes iam in the Air Force, station at Spangdahlem. Iam an auto mechanic for the the air force, i guess not a good one if i can figure this out.
Well any ways the details, its a 350 TPI, ordered it from Tbolt.net. they have been around for a while and they were cheap which might be the problem(i hope not). i told them it was a vin 8, i was told by the company that the cam is stock but it was reground. for the rebuild, i rebuilt the heads, took apart cleaned, put new valve seals and reseated the valves. the motor before only had 16000 miles on it so i didnt bother getting the valves reground they looked good even before reseating them. and what i mean by reseating is i used the paste and spun the valves then took a marker and check the contact point and they were good. then used a gasket set and pretty much put it back together. sparkplug wires are on correctly, new plugs new wires, cap and rotor looked good. it runs i can drive it up and down the road but when stop in drive i have to feather the gas to make sure it doesnt stahl. in park it will idle but crapy like i said. now for the lower intake gasket i put a small about of RTV around the ports on the head, used a rubber hammer to tap lightly around the ports to make sure they were sealed and then let it dry a little before i put the intake on, i also used a little RTV on the intake side too, just to make sure everything was sealed. i orgianly thought that mybe the bad tps sensor was causing problems with the IAC and causing a restriction for the vacuum so thats why i repalced both. but iam up for ideas. i have a second intake and i was thinking about ripping off the old one and redoing it and ordering new gaskets again but like you said i think its somthing simple too. but low and steady vacuum means mechical problem or valve timing, I think.
Well any ways the details, its a 350 TPI, ordered it from Tbolt.net. they have been around for a while and they were cheap which might be the problem(i hope not). i told them it was a vin 8, i was told by the company that the cam is stock but it was reground. for the rebuild, i rebuilt the heads, took apart cleaned, put new valve seals and reseated the valves. the motor before only had 16000 miles on it so i didnt bother getting the valves reground they looked good even before reseating them. and what i mean by reseating is i used the paste and spun the valves then took a marker and check the contact point and they were good. then used a gasket set and pretty much put it back together. sparkplug wires are on correctly, new plugs new wires, cap and rotor looked good. it runs i can drive it up and down the road but when stop in drive i have to feather the gas to make sure it doesnt stahl. in park it will idle but crapy like i said. now for the lower intake gasket i put a small about of RTV around the ports on the head, used a rubber hammer to tap lightly around the ports to make sure they were sealed and then let it dry a little before i put the intake on, i also used a little RTV on the intake side too, just to make sure everything was sealed. i orgianly thought that mybe the bad tps sensor was causing problems with the IAC and causing a restriction for the vacuum so thats why i repalced both. but iam up for ideas. i have a second intake and i was thinking about ripping off the old one and redoing it and ordering new gaskets again but like you said i think its somthing simple too. but low and steady vacuum means mechical problem or valve timing, I think.
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Re: Low vacuum, Poor idle. Please help!
When you say runs crappy, do you mean like a miss? Does it run like crap even going down the road or just at idle? If it's a stock cam, yeah your vacume is pretty weak. Honestly when I hear "reground cam" alarm bells go off in my head. I honestly don't know why anyone does this anymore considering how cheap a stock replacement cam and lifters is. When you first cranked then engine after putting it together did you "burn" the cam in? I'm wondering if the reground cam shaft has a flat lobe. If it sounds like a bad miss, you may pull the valve covers off and turn it over slowly and see if all the valves are opening all the way. Hope you find the problem, I know how frustrating chasing some of this stuff down can be.
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