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Old 01-29-2008 | 10:19 PM
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Re: i want my car to lift the front wheels, what does it take

If you look carefully at the picture of the engine and use your magnifying icon at the bottom of the pic and upsize the picture, you will notice an ATI Procharger at the lower right of the engine compartment. Follow down from the air cleaner can underneath the filter into the back of the blower, then out of the blower and into a huge charge air cooler (inner cooler) that I made, then out of the inner cooler and into the throttle plate of a tuned port intake. The pic of just the motor is an aftermarket runner, intake & throttle plate TPI setup on a 383, full roller motor with trickflow aluminum twisted wedge heads. Got scat crank with approx 6.5lbs of material removed and I-beam rods so rotating is extremely light yet street dependable. Makes about 650 to the wheels but very drivable and still pulls 14lbs vaacum at cruise and idle. This allows retention of cruise control and ac/heater functions. Car retains a/c and still hauls a**! The air filter sticks up into the hood scoop which is therfore fully functional and crams cool air into the blower intake even before the blower gets ahold of it . The picture shows a 600b procharger but have since installed a P1SC so it is no longer oiled with engine oil. I'm not kidding either, the car has some updated suspension and handles better than when new, still pulls the tires well off the ground, still retains overdrive and a 3.23 rear (soon to be updated to a 3.25 9", sitting in the back of the shop right now) still uses a 700R4 tranny (very built) and a 3000 stall converter that will flash to 3200, and still makes 20mpg!!! Soooooo.......to make a long story short, I'm still looking for a Mustang..........in my rear view mirror....LOL!!
Old 01-29-2008 | 10:27 PM
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Re: i want my car to lift the front wheels, what does it take

Oh yeah, to answer your question, I am very enchanted with fuel injection so personally, I would not mess with carbs and intake combos. Fuel injection when set up properly is the bomb!!!! So much more efficient and self sufficient with the right computer setup. (self corrects for environment changes) I will probably never build another carbed or normally asperated project again as far as that goes. The performer is probably worth $129.00 but...you can pick those up used at alot of swap shops for $50.00 to $80.00 now as they are yesterdays news. Not a bad intake or anything, but, yesterday's news just the same. Victors are probably about the same story but definitely a more aggressive manifold.
Old 01-30-2008 | 03:04 AM
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Re: i want my car to lift the front wheels, what does it take

Originally Posted by topradman
Oh yeah, to answer your question, I am very enchanted with fuel injection so personally, I would not mess with carbs and intake combos. Fuel injection when set up properly is the bomb!!!! So much more efficient and self sufficient with the right computer setup. (self corrects for environment changes) I will probably never build another carbed or normally asperated project again as far as that goes. The performer is probably worth $129.00 but...you can pick those up used at alot of swap shops for $50.00 to $80.00 now as they are yesterdays news. Not a bad intake or anything, but, yesterday's news just the same. Victors are probably about the same story but definitely a more aggressive manifold.
ok so if i want boost and efi how do u get around the ecu issues? for example i can put a pro charger on my 5.0 but it wouldnt run right since the ecu cant tell whats going on or send enough fuel
Old 01-30-2008 | 09:27 AM
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Re: i want my car to lift the front wheels, what does it take

For our old cars, you get a reburn on the prom based on a parts list and what you want to accomplish. Fastchip does this. Option 2 is to get a reburn based on dyno result which is much better.
Old 02-03-2008 | 06:19 PM
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Re: i want my car to lift the front wheels, what does it take

Originally Posted by topradman
For our old cars, you get a reburn on the prom based on a parts list and what you want to accomplish. Fastchip does this. Option 2 is to get a reburn based on dyno result which is much better.
so about how much does it cost to get the prom?
Old 02-03-2008 | 09:03 PM
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Re: i want my car to lift the front wheels, what does it take

Depends, best advice is to get ahold of someone that does it. Fastchip is on the internet and I think there are alot of other places to shop, just have to do some looking.
Old 02-03-2008 | 10:33 PM
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Re: i want my car to lift the front wheels, what does it take

Originally Posted by scuzz
Back in the 60's, I didn't have the money to build a big engine, so I went to scrap iron pile behind local garage and found the most worn out front shocks for my 55 Chevy I could find and put them on, while having a descent set on back.
With a 283, she'd bring up the wheels. Impressive, but just show.
A lot of drag racers still do a similar trick, but they have lots of power also.
I wonder if THESE will do the same thing with weak stock springs in the back?
Old 02-04-2008 | 02:19 AM
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Re: i want my car to lift the front wheels, what does it take

i would love to have a car that the wheels will come up off the ground.
just enoyugh that i done flip over tho haha.
just go on youtube and search up car wheelies or something. they have a ton of videos on that. some are deadly amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_CeiUbFnm8

this is my favorite one.

but i think you go down the track faster if your doesnt do wheelies that high tho lol youll need wheelie bars forsure :P

for my build my rearend gears will be 4.11 posi. with a TH400 and hopefully my engine that im building (383) will put out 500hp with out a power adder then stick like a supercharger on top of that and hopfully make 650ish hp or more.
its gunna be a drag car. im sure ill be getting the front tires off the ground.
but im more likly to go down the track fast as possable and not have the front tires lift off more then a foot.
if it gets like 2 or 3 feet high.
ill be amazed and also excited my car can do that haha.
it would be time for wheelie bars :P

i say make a good 350. its alot cheaper then making a strong 305. and youll have more power with the 350 anyways. heck maybe even make a 383. or go and buy a big block engine. youll get up in the air.
Old 02-04-2008 | 04:01 AM
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Re: i want my car to lift the front wheels, what does it take

Originally Posted by joshh44
i would love to have a car that the wheels will come up off the ground.
just enoyugh that i done flip over tho haha.
just go on youtube and search up car wheelies or something. they have a ton of videos on that. some are deadly amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_CeiUbFnm8

this is my favorite one.

but i think you go down the track faster if your doesnt do wheelies that high tho lol youll need wheelie bars forsure :P

for my build my rearend gears will be 4.11 posi. with a TH400 and hopefully my engine that im building (383) will put out 500hp with out a power adder then stick like a supercharger on top of that and hopfully make 650ish hp or more.
its gunna be a drag car. im sure ill be getting the front tires off the ground.
but im more likly to go down the track fast as possable and not have the front tires lift off more then a foot.
if it gets like 2 or 3 feet high.
ill be amazed and also excited my car can do that haha.
it would be time for wheelie bars :P

i say make a good 350. its alot cheaper then making a strong 305. and youll have more power with the 350 anyways. heck maybe even make a 383. or go and buy a big block engine. youll get up in the air.
my friend has a 454 in a old truck im considering:P
Old 02-05-2008 | 07:26 PM
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Re: i want my car to lift the front wheels, what does it take

a 454 would be a good start. i dont know specifics but i had a shop teacher that said a truck 454 isnt something that you should hot rod, thinner cylinder walls or something like that. either way its a step in the right direction.
Old 02-05-2008 | 09:29 PM
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Re: i want my car to lift the front wheels, what does it take

Uuuuh not even close to true, the truck 454 is going to be the same as a car 454. It doesn't matter how thick the cylinder walls are unless you go overboring them then you worry about that.
Old 02-06-2008 | 02:14 PM
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Re: i want my car to lift the front wheels, what does it take

It doesn't take a lot of power just to pop the fronts off the ground. I do it every run with my 96 ImpalaSS with stock cam and heads, unless of course the starting line is completely off. Yank SS3600 converter, 4.88 gears with 30" Hoosiers (4.10's and 26" ET Drags worked too but required much better starting line prep), 30 psi in the RR air bag. It pops em and drops em on motor; holds them up for 20-25 feet on the 150 shot. If I can do it with a stock internal LT1 on a ~120" wheelbase, it shouldn't be too hard with an F-body.
Old 02-06-2008 | 10:00 PM
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Re: i want my car to lift the front wheels, what does it take

Performer intake on a stock 305, or a mild 350. It makes power from idle to 5500 rpm. The victor intake makes power from 3500 to 8000 rpm. Your 305 will prob only make power to 4500-5000 rpm. Victor will be total overkill. Maybe go with a performer cam as well. Should make a decent package and would transfer over to a larger displacement engine when you get ready.
Old 02-07-2008 | 12:16 PM
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Re: i want my car to lift the front wheels, what does it take

Originally Posted by 84noname
ok so if i want boost and efi how do u get around the ecu issues? for example i can put a pro charger on my 5.0 but it wouldnt run right since the ecu cant tell whats going on or send enough fuel
Anderson Ford Motorsport PMS...about $1200. but You can tune from the passengers seat ANYTIME...retains the stock computer.
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Re: i want my car to lift the front wheels, what does it take

Megasquirt, you can tun from the passenger seat on a laptop anytime.
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