quick oil pan question
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quick oil pan question
im building a 383 engine with hopfully 450 - 500 hp.
would i need a deep oil pan or would a OEM style oil pan work??
would i need a deep oil pan or would a OEM style oil pan work??
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Re: quick oil pan question
The OEM pan would work Ok, putting on a larger capacity pan would be a good idea, but going deep could be a problem with grounding it out.. check on some of the other aftermarket pans that have side kick outs.
Other suggest are Crank wiper, a better Windage Tray.
Other suggest are Crank wiper, a better Windage Tray.
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Re: quick oil pan question
Did you check out the Moroso 6qt pan that is designed for the 3rd gen chassis? That is what I am using on the 400 I am building along with the matching Moroso pump and pickup assembly. Check it out in Jegs or Summit.
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Re: quick oil pan question
i found a standard polished aluminum oil pan that comes with the bolts and gasket for a 2 rear main seal engine for $89.
i would like to get a bigger oil pan for the build im doing but i havnt found a good one yet.
im not to sure if i checked out jegs for them or summit. ill do that right now.
how much is yours total with the pump and pickup?
i would like to get a bigger oil pan for the build im doing but i havnt found a good one yet.
im not to sure if i checked out jegs for them or summit. ill do that right now.
how much is yours total with the pump and pickup?
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Re: quick oil pan question
I lucked out in that I got mine off ebay and saved about half the cost of the pan but I just looked in the Jegs catalog and the pan is 142.99 and the pump assembly was 101.99. Expensive, yes a little, but well worth it to have a matched system. I also got their windage tray to finish it off.
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Re: quick oil pan question
i was looking at jegs and they seem pretty expsnive. well today i was thinking.
since i got a 305 in my car right now.
i was thinking if i could use th oil pan from that engine to the 383 engine.
save me some money. just something to run for right now.
im trying to get my car ready for the drag race tournament on the island where i live. thats in augest so im trying to save money and time to get it all done by then.
could i use the pan from 305??? im not to sure if the 305 used a smaller pan then the 350s did.
since i got a 305 in my car right now.
i was thinking if i could use th oil pan from that engine to the 383 engine.
save me some money. just something to run for right now.
im trying to get my car ready for the drag race tournament on the island where i live. thats in augest so im trying to save money and time to get it all done by then.
could i use the pan from 305??? im not to sure if the 305 used a smaller pan then the 350s did.
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Re: quick oil pan question
The 305 and 350 (and for that matter, the 400) use the same pan, in any given chassis; subject of course, to year-model (dipstick location) variations.
Use your stock pan if it will work on your new motor, or a stock F, A, or G body pan for whatever kind of block your 383 is built out of.
Use your stock pan if it will work on your new motor, or a stock F, A, or G body pan for whatever kind of block your 383 is built out of.
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Re: quick oil pan question
alright.
ok i havnt took the 305 out of the car yet. but it a 1990 305 engine and which has a one rear main seal?
and the block im using is a late 70s 2 rear main seal.
so are oil pans made just for a 2 piece seal? i wouldnt think they would. i would imagine its being the same for both seals.
but i rather ask questions before i screw somthing up.
ok i havnt took the 305 out of the car yet. but it a 1990 305 engine and which has a one rear main seal?
and the block im using is a late 70s 2 rear main seal.
so are oil pans made just for a 2 piece seal? i wouldnt think they would. i would imagine its being the same for both seals.
but i rather ask questions before i screw somthing up.
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Re: quick oil pan question
No the oil pans are ABSOLUTELY NOT the same. They are different where they go around the rear seal area (duh).
Furthermore, a 70s block will have the dipstick on the other side, which is yet another detail difference that will change what pans will fit.
If you have a 70s block, get the pan for a 70s F, A, or G body (Camaro, Chevelle, Monte Carlo) of about the same year. As stated above. Not a truck or a full-size car. With the dipstick where your block has its dipstick.
Furthermore, a 70s block will have the dipstick on the other side, which is yet another detail difference that will change what pans will fit.
If you have a 70s block, get the pan for a 70s F, A, or G body (Camaro, Chevelle, Monte Carlo) of about the same year. As stated above. Not a truck or a full-size car. With the dipstick where your block has its dipstick.
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Re: quick oil pan question
I bought the generic summit house brand one for $30, orange powder coated.
You could go to a bigger oil pan, but it's generally not needed unless you're doing endurance track racing or something.
You could go to a bigger oil pan, but it's generally not needed unless you're doing endurance track racing or something.
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