URGENT!! FRAM FUEL FILTER RECALL.
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URGENT!! FRAM FUEL FILTER RECALL.
Anyone who has purchased a Fram fuel filter for their Camaro or Firebird within the last year should be aware that a certain one that has been manufactured in Mexico has been recalled. The part # is G3727, date code X52911 through X60801 or X600141. The defective filters were manufactured from Oct, 18th, 2005 to March 21st 2006. The O-ring in these particular filters may not seat correctly on the fuel line thus leading to innadequete seal at the connection, pottentially leading to a fuel leak which in the presence of an ignition source a fire could occur. Many of these were sold at Wal-Mart. I have also discoverd that many other G.M. Vehicles also use this particular filter. Fram has a customer service regarding this.
The # is 1-800-890-2075, option 1.
The # is 1-800-890-2075, option 1.
Last edited by Vern; 10-27-2006 at 02:57 PM. Reason: New info
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Where did you get this information? I checked their website, didn't see anything. Searched on "recall" on their website, didn't come up with anything.
Of course, they had a rolling billboard that said the average cost of gas in the US is $2.82/gal, so. . .
Of course, they had a rolling billboard that said the average cost of gas in the US is $2.82/gal, so. . .
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Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
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I hear that a lot, but I've never seen any evidence of it. The now-famous internet oil filter comparison railed on them, but nothing that says the filter will fail on you. I know guys who run them on their high pressure/high volume 80 psi race engines, and not a single failure among them. I've never heard of a track oil-down because of a Fram filter failing. People say they've "heard" of somebody's engine being ruined because a Fram filter failed, but somehow it's never anybody they know personally.
Trust me, I have absolutely no reason to built up Fram (I use only AMSOIL filters), but I don't believe in spreading innuendo, either.
Trust me, I have absolutely no reason to built up Fram (I use only AMSOIL filters), but I don't believe in spreading innuendo, either.
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Yep Fram makes good filters. That urban myth stuff spreads way to easy and those who can't think for themselves just repeat it like a parrot. Just like this problem; its some bozo at the factory screwing up parts; it has nothing to do with Fram. Like blaming GM if a line worker forget to tighten a lug nut.
The oil filter myth is just BS, myself I have cut apart many filter and there is no cardboard blow out plugs. All steel, very durable parts inside, ones with bypass valves are good automotive grade plastic. Nothing cheap about them.
[I did not take some rumor for fact, I cut several different ones apart and proved it myself there is nothing wrong. Member what your mother said about rumors?]
Same deal as here, some factory somewhere cut corners on a lot of oil filters and you know as soon as Fram headquarters found out the problem was fixed.
No one is above this. There is also a bunch of bad AC oil filters out there.
Easily picked out from the crapy silkscreen logo job.
Who's to blame? AC or the company making the knock off filters?
Who's to blame is Mexico as they flood our markets with tons of counterfeit good daily.
Though if you got a 500HP $35,000 engine why are you using $3 oil filters????
Fram $3 line is meant for factory built cars, not race cars. They do have a race filter line. Though anyone with a $35,000 motor who can't afford to buy a $130 wicks filter to protect that investment is a fool. Wicks filter come apart and are inspectable, rebuildable, cleanable.
The oil filter myth is just BS, myself I have cut apart many filter and there is no cardboard blow out plugs. All steel, very durable parts inside, ones with bypass valves are good automotive grade plastic. Nothing cheap about them.
[I did not take some rumor for fact, I cut several different ones apart and proved it myself there is nothing wrong. Member what your mother said about rumors?]
Same deal as here, some factory somewhere cut corners on a lot of oil filters and you know as soon as Fram headquarters found out the problem was fixed.
No one is above this. There is also a bunch of bad AC oil filters out there.
Easily picked out from the crapy silkscreen logo job.
Who's to blame? AC or the company making the knock off filters?
Who's to blame is Mexico as they flood our markets with tons of counterfeit good daily.
Though if you got a 500HP $35,000 engine why are you using $3 oil filters????
Fram $3 line is meant for factory built cars, not race cars. They do have a race filter line. Though anyone with a $35,000 motor who can't afford to buy a $130 wicks filter to protect that investment is a fool. Wicks filter come apart and are inspectable, rebuildable, cleanable.
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They've changed their product somewhat over the years but the earlier filters were most definitely cardboard ends with openings on both sides and a stamped steel plate to 'seal' the far end of the filter. I still have one on the shelf if you want to see it. Anyway, I sold parts for years and every once in a while you'd grab a Fram off the shelf, and it would rattle. No external damage... filter element loose, along with the stamped steel plate. Just terrible design asking for trouble.
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I'd never put one of those orange cans of death on any vehicle I own or service.
every vehicle I've ever done any sort of filter on on has always got a Wix, NAPA Gold (they're the same) or K&N. Period. Failure is never an option.
every vehicle I've ever done any sort of filter on on has always got a Wix, NAPA Gold (they're the same) or K&N. Period. Failure is never an option.
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I hear that a lot, but I've never seen any evidence of it. The now-famous internet oil filter comparison railed on them, but nothing that says the filter will fail on you. I know guys who run them on their high pressure/high volume 80 psi race engines, and not a single failure among them. I've never heard of a track oil-down because of a Fram filter failing. People say they've "heard" of somebody's engine being ruined because a Fram filter failed, but somehow it's never anybody they know personally.
Trust me, I have absolutely no reason to built up Fram (I use only AMSOIL filters), but I don't believe in spreading innuendo, either.
Trust me, I have absolutely no reason to built up Fram (I use only AMSOIL filters), but I don't believe in spreading innuendo, either.
It's been a few years back but Ford and Dodge both relased TSBs on the use of Fram oil filters in thier diesel apps. With the high oil pressure in the CTD and especially the PSD the filter media would break apart and casue engine damage. This has been documented and the problem has been fixed by fram.
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Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
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Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
It's been a few years back but Ford and Dodge both relased TSBs on the use of Fram oil filters in thier diesel apps. With the high oil pressure in the CTD and especially the PSD the filter media would break apart and casue engine damage. This has been documented and the problem has been fixed by fram.
There have been other cases where the OEM didn't properly spec their application. That can't be considered the fault of any aftermarket supplier when their product subsequently failed.
Nothing here warrants the "orange can of death" tag.
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I am a prime example of why you should not use a fram oil filter. Advance was out of purolator so I always buy my mobil 1 from walmart bc it is cheaper and I picked up a fram filter for my Probe GT as well. A week later my turbo craps out and after a $500 turbo rebuild, I still haven't got it right. The reason for turbo failure was engine oil contamination.
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I havent got a fram on my car for a while. Ive heard that fram has problems but havent investigated it for myself. Ill be sure to get one for one of my crappy cars next oil change and have a look. Aparently you can see the fault once you cut it open at the end of the filters life? Not sure what to expect.
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I hear that a lot, but I've never seen any evidence of it. The now-famous internet oil filter comparison railed on them, but nothing that says the filter will fail on you. I know guys who run them on their high pressure/high volume 80 psi race engines, and not a single failure among them. I've never heard of a track oil-down because of a Fram filter failing. People say they've "heard" of somebody's engine being ruined because a Fram filter failed, but somehow it's never anybody they know personally.
Trust me, I have absolutely no reason to built up Fram (I use only AMSOIL filters), but I don't believe in spreading innuendo, either.
Trust me, I have absolutely no reason to built up Fram (I use only AMSOIL filters), but I don't believe in spreading innuendo, either.
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fram used to be a good filter, a long time ago.
but they have been having problems off & on for a good number of years.
a friend of mine lost a big block because of a fram oil filter. the paper element turned loose & was wadded up inside the filter & starved the motor for oil.
i have cut open a few filters here & there and have found problems with some fram filters, not all of them but enough to never use a fram oil filter again.
but they have been having problems off & on for a good number of years.
a friend of mine lost a big block because of a fram oil filter. the paper element turned loose & was wadded up inside the filter & starved the motor for oil.
i have cut open a few filters here & there and have found problems with some fram filters, not all of them but enough to never use a fram oil filter again.
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I am a prime example of why you should not use a fram oil filter. Advance was out of purolator so I always buy my mobil 1 from walmart bc it is cheaper and I picked up a fram filter for my Probe GT as well. A week later my turbo craps out and after a $500 turbo rebuild, I still haven't got it right. The reason for turbo failure was engine oil contamination.
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There is alot of taboo about using a fram. I only use AC delco now because they are cheaper. My car will hit 90 psi of oil pressure easily when I go ***** to the wall. On the times I have had a fram, no evidence of any problems.
I have used fram on my dodge ram since I bought it new. No issues.
There is alot of false speculations, someone will read a bad review, and by reading one persons point of view, 100's believe that point of view was their own.
I have used fram on my dodge ram since I bought it new. No issues.
There is alot of false speculations, someone will read a bad review, and by reading one persons point of view, 100's believe that point of view was their own.
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ive used fram filters since my first car back in 96... 11 years of regular oil changes on two to three different cars and have had no problems...i have recently switched to ac delco ones but only to support the home team....
never saw any first hand evidence of fram causing a problem but im sure someone has somewhere...every story has someonebacking them up
never saw any first hand evidence of fram causing a problem but im sure someone has somewhere...every story has someonebacking them up
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Car: 85' Trans Am !best car ever!
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i got a defective fuel filter. Im always doing oil changes and i get my oil at Walmart 5 qts. for 10 bucks. One day i pick up a fuel filter cause i was having erratic idle, turned out to be the pickup coil. but i thought it was the filter..I get Castro GTX oil, what about you?>
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