Gumby

Walmart full syn oil

Maybe it was me but I already forgot. Anyone know off hand who Walmart gets their full syn oil from??? $11 for 5 quarts for full syn is a deal. But its only 10-30 Fine for my Mothers Subaru I take care of. I just can't remember who really makes it.

I think mobile but maybe not?

Forshock 85TA

Last i heard, havoline atleast for the dyno juice.

But be sure to check the certs on the back (GF4, etc.)

AJ_92RS

I heard from a Quaker State Rep that Super-Tech is made by Quaker State.

rx7speed

who makes the oil doesn't mean much as far as what quality it is or how it is blended

if lets say penzoil had a big shipment they needed to get out and asked mobil to help them out do you think mobil is going to make the oil to the same specs as they make there normal oil or do you think they are going to make it like penzoil wants them to make it?


that's what I did when bottling and doing stuff with oil. we blended it to how the company wanted us to blend it not to how we blended out own stuff... hell half the time we didn't even blend our own stuff we sent it to someone else to make it while we sat around and made everyone elses stuff TO THEIR SPECS not ours

TWICEtheRICE

Walmart brand has higher rating than most of the other oils on the shelf, I think its up their with mobile.

I have seen some independant non biased studies and some of the tests have walmart on top.

Just like 92-93 octane fuel, 87 octane is no different than additives that they put in the fuel when the truck comes to fill the stations. Its all the fricken same stuff.

toofast

You get what you pay for. Cheep oil is just that ,,,,,,,,,,,

Gumby

Thats the question I guess.
Is there even such a thing as low grade full syn oil???

If its full syn? Its the bom shig diga ditty......Right?......

TWICEtheRICE

Not always true!

I get hammerd off of CVS "nyquil"
I use generic Rx meds
Harbor Freight rules

FYI, oils do have to pass certain regs, so even at the bare minimum you get quality oil. They will actually go into random stores and take oil off the shelves and test them to see if they are meeting the standard.

contact

is Walmart non-blended syn oil...

synthetically synthetic, like Mobil One, or,

highly refine, grade three, lube base stock

rx7speed

there is a differenec between synthetic oils though

some are not true synthetics but still using dino juice that has just been refined and generally isn't considered as good of quality as a true man made synthetic oil like those made out of poa or esther base stocks rather then just plain ol 'dino juice crude oil

Gumby

Well soon as I get a chance Ill check out the jug more. If you seen my thread in the tranny section. I was just grabbing a quick quart of tranny fluid and noticed the oil and price.

If anyone else gets to Walmart give it a looks-C.
I wont have time for 4-5 days.

Course it not that exciting unless they start to carry more versions. I like to see full syn 20-50 $11 for 5 quarts.

Tremo

Wally's "synthetic" oil is just a GRP III+ hydrocracked dino oil. Just like most others that are labelled "Synthetic" like Castrol.

If you want a *real* PAO synthetic, go with Mobil1.

And stay away from the orange Fram filters, they're total junk.

Forshock 85TA

Gotta a story or just an opinion?

I buy the SuperTech filters anyways The truck version.

Gumby

They have cardboard insides that can get blown out.
But this is not gonna happen on a stock daily driver that isn't raced and the filter is changed per instructions every 3500.

Other wise fram would be sued out the wazoo by now from causing engine failure. And would not be the official filter of NASCAR. As for stock daily drivers, that most people drive, they work as designed. And I bet fram has some disclaimer if you use their OEM parts line for racing and try to sue as your motor blew.

But in general on this site, stay away from fram. As most here have modded engines where you could get into trouble if the cardboard blew out and dirt trapped in the filter was set lose.

Though I have a fram on my 2.8 as its not gonna blow a filter apart. Plus I got magnets on it. But if so, only dirt would escape. No metal particles would get lose.

Though when my pockets are full. I like mobile 1 synthetic oil filters.

But I love the sure grip filters too.
But only for stock, daily driver that aren't raced.

firebird45331

we cut a bunch of filters apart at the shop I used to work at. I know people that work for fram, and they made oe filters for saturn and afew imports. It all depends on who was ordering them as to what specs they use. I'll never use the orange fram filters. I always use AC Delco for my GM cars, Bosche for my volvo. And motorcraft when I own a ford

Gumby

Looks like you can't trust ACDelco filters.
Well not the phony ones.

http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?t=76424

"More oil filter monkey business.



Want to post these pictures of 2 AC PF-47 oil filters I bought for my Park Ave. 3 months apart from the same auto parts store I have done business with for nearly 30 years.
Basically, with the newer filter, my oil pressure was all over the map.
For more on what happened, see this thread.
www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?t=75473

I took both back to the store and showed the guys my issue with the new one.
They all agreed that it didn't look as well made, and swear they use an authorized AC Delco distributer. They gave me my money back with no arguments. We think the bypass valve in it is to fault.
I reported my concerns about having possibly purchased a counterfeit filter to AC Delco. They have a link on their site to report this sort of thing, and lo and behold an investigator contacted me and had me forward her pictures.
I haven't heard anything back yet.
From now on whenever I buy a filter, I am going to be opening boxes first!
Who knows, maybe I will get some free filters out of it."

AJ_92RS

Quaker State's synthetic is GRP III+ also then?

ME Leigh

Correct, but even the PAO synthetic oils are not fully synthetic, they have additives and such that are regular dino oil based. There is no synthetic oil that is a pure synthetic. Don't believe what anybody tells you, they are just trying to sell oil.

Forshock 85TA

:cough: motul :cough:

rx7speed

what addatives are you refering to?
zinc, sulfer stuff like that?

so yeah those aren't synthetic but the base stock itself is supposed to be synthetic still

Rick King

I use it all the time in the daily driver a (ford) sorry for swearing--
140 on the motor no problems ever

later and

GB

rk

Dr.NickRiviera

Walmarts "Synthetic" is made by Penzoil. I looked for this a long time ago when I started doubting spending the $$$ on mobile1 for my Spec V. I use the Wallyworld stuff now, and actually have less oil consumption than I did before.

Gumby

Good deal huh.

I could use supertech $7 a jug or get full syn for $11

No way I'm paying $25 a jug for mobile.

Unless it was there fancy 0W50 But that like $25 a quart.

Red Devil

http://faq.f650.com/FAQs/OILFAQ.htm#...0The%20“Facts”

Decent read overall for an intro.

As for who makes what, find the MSDS or just get the oil analyzed and find the closest formulation. Penzoil hasn't had the Walmart contract for years and years now IIRC. Quaker State got it after and had it until recently, the latest rumor is that Mobil did in fact get the contract, but I seriously doubt, can practically guarantee even, that it is NOT a PAO oil, but rather a Group III base.

The question that one should then ask is... will it perform better than the conventional oil and is it at least somewhat comparable to a true synthetic base oil. Don't know anyone with any conclusive answers to the second question, but general opinion is that they do perform better than conventional oils. How much better is still under debate.

Red Devil

As a side note, the previous contract that someone had nailed down was through Warren Distributing Co. which also did QS and Penzoil at one time. I think if anyone wants real answers they will have to do an oil analysis and then compare.

This however does not preclude the new (or maybe still old) distributor from bottling whatever formulation they may have left over or decided to make, etc. so long as it meets Walmart specs (if any other than a general 'falls within 'synthetic' classification and meets SJ standards)... now if someone could get that info, we would at least have a baseline.

Red Devil

That made sense last night. Kinda does now, but I know what I was trying to say. Man....