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Old 04-20-2005, 03:34 PM
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So close to driving it, help w/ running rough

When cold, very hard to start. Cranks up and dies off. Once I can get it running- after making it idle until warm up- idles fine. Some searching but not much. Giving it gas from a stop it stumbles/like a miss until it gets going then revs fine. I have a snap-on mt 2500 scanner but I really dont know what to look for. I did notice that the egr solenoid duty cycle never goes off of 0%.
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a bad EGR gives a rough idle. Your problem almost sounds like a clogged fuel filter?
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when I put the engine back in I put a brand new gm egr on. the egr solenoid has not been replaced. Wouldn't a clogged fuel filter be more of a problem in the higher rpm range?
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Yes, it would be a problem in the higher RPM ranges, or when you are suddenly giving it gas (idling at a stop sign, then romp on it).

Also, what is the word on the fuel pump's reliability?

and to add to the list... what is your base timing set at (when you disconnected the EST connector to set your timing)
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base timing is on 6 degrees, that has been double checked. fuel pump not sure of, I have a fuel pressure gauge on it and it stays around 40 psi when running. I did notice that it drops some when I rev it up. I will put a new fuel filter on it and go from there.
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After you shut the car off, how long does it take for the fuel pressure to bleed out?

The more I read your post over, the more I think about it being a leaky injector.
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If I turn the key on w/o cranking it the pressure goes to about 35 or 37. Turn the key off and go back to it in 20 or 30 minutes and it is about the same. Maybe a 2 - 3 psi drop. What is the norm on that if there is one?
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If I turn the key on w/o cranking it the pressure goes to about 35 or 37. Turn the key off and go back to it in 20 or 30 minutes and it is about the same. Maybe a 2 - 3 psi drop. What is the norm on that if there is one?
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I clocked the pressure drop this morning after changing the fuel filter. FP reading 40 psi, after an hour it was down in the low 20s.

I still dont know why when its cold it will crank, idles up and then comes down and cuts off. It will do this unless I hold the accelerator up around 1500 rpms. Once it starts to warm up it will idle, a little rough, but idles.
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take your injectors out by the rail after you pressurize the system (turn it on, then turn it off). Then find out which of the injectors leak unusually fast.

You can also turn the car on (keep spray away from the distributor!) to see the spray pattern. If some are spraying extra hard, in weird ways, etc... then you found the injector that is bad.

If none come up bad then you can go from there. There's a lot to the fuel system, yet not that much ... it's weird
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