3.8" stroke on a 400 block
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3.8" stroke on a 400 block
Well guys i almost have all my parts for my 400 block
6" Scat H Beams
SRP Forged Pistons (11.26:1 compression with a 0 deck, 76cc heads, and .040 head gasket)
AFR 220 Heads
1.6RR
264/272 @.050 Duration
.692/.692 Lift with 1.6RR
107LSA
Super Victor Intake Manifold
Anywayz still need to buy a crank and get the machine work done. Now it would cost me 125 bux to get the block 0 decked. Standard stroke is 3.75
Now i know they make 3.8" stroke 400 cranks and i remember hearing something somewhere that if you get a 3.8" stroke 400 crank it would be like 0 decking your block just because of the increase length in stroke. Now i wanted to know if that is true or not. Would save me 125 dollars. But then again will there be clearanceing issues with the 3.8" stroke crank (block wise). If not ill for sure do that, gain some extra cubes while im at it. Lemme know fellas thanks.
6" Scat H Beams
SRP Forged Pistons (11.26:1 compression with a 0 deck, 76cc heads, and .040 head gasket)
AFR 220 Heads
1.6RR
264/272 @.050 Duration
.692/.692 Lift with 1.6RR
107LSA
Super Victor Intake Manifold
Anywayz still need to buy a crank and get the machine work done. Now it would cost me 125 bux to get the block 0 decked. Standard stroke is 3.75
Now i know they make 3.8" stroke 400 cranks and i remember hearing something somewhere that if you get a 3.8" stroke 400 crank it would be like 0 decking your block just because of the increase length in stroke. Now i wanted to know if that is true or not. Would save me 125 dollars. But then again will there be clearanceing issues with the 3.8" stroke crank (block wise). If not ill for sure do that, gain some extra cubes while im at it. Lemme know fellas thanks.
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Yes, that is just about right to self zero-deck the assembly, if used with 3.75" spec'ed parts. You still need to check it though, to avoid potential embarrassing collisions.
Clearance shouldn't be a problem. You're only increasing the rotating assy radius, i.e. decreasing the clearance, by .025".... about the thickness of 2 business cards, at most.
Clearance shouldn't be a problem. You're only increasing the rotating assy radius, i.e. decreasing the clearance, by .025".... about the thickness of 2 business cards, at most.
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standard deck height is 9.025 right? Anywayz lets say its 9.025 like i think. 3.75 to 3.8 is .05" increase making the deck heigh 9.02 not 9.00 like i would want.
Last edited by JesasaurusRex; 03-31-2005 at 09:24 PM.
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Just answered my own question fellas
http://kb-silvolite.com/calc.php?action=deck
6" Rod
1.125" Piston Compression Height
9.025" Deck Height
3.75" Stroke
=0.025" Deck Clearance
6" Rod
1.125" Piston Compression Height
9.025" Deck Height
3.8" Stroke
=0.0 Deck Clearance
Now seeing how that seems to work, clearance wise how would the block/cam hold up to the little extra stroke. Do i have to do any clearanceing? Scat H Beam Rods supposed to be good to 3.875" Stroke so im not worried about them hitting the cam or anything like that. Pistons say they are for a 3.75" stroke does it even matter ? Should this all work out good fellas? Let me know your input. Also whats the optimum optimum quench? Was gonna get a .040" head gasket but i could always get .039" or .041" or is it just a personal preference.
Also what do you guys think about her runnin on 91 octane gas? (most here in cali from the pump)
Static Compression comes out to 11.41 : 1 with 76cc heads (aluminum, AFRs) 4cc Domed Piston, .040" Head Gasket Thickness, 4.2" Head Gasket Bore, 4.155" Bore, 0 Deck Height, and a 3.8" Stroke.
Dynamic Compression comes out to 9.75 : 1 with a 6" Rod, 3.8" Stroke and an Intake Closing Point ABDC of 55
Cam Specs are
Solid Roller
Duration 264/272 @.050
.692/.692 Lift w/ 1.6 Ratio Rocker
107 LSA
valve timeing is
29btdc 55abdc
67bbdc 25atdc
Now if somebody wants to calculate the dynamic compression again for me that would be kool cuz it was kinda confusing. It said intake closing point @.050 abdc plus 15 degrees...i just put 55. Anywayz thanks for the help fellas.
http://kb-silvolite.com/calc.php?action=deck
6" Rod
1.125" Piston Compression Height
9.025" Deck Height
3.75" Stroke
=0.025" Deck Clearance
6" Rod
1.125" Piston Compression Height
9.025" Deck Height
3.8" Stroke
=0.0 Deck Clearance
Now seeing how that seems to work, clearance wise how would the block/cam hold up to the little extra stroke. Do i have to do any clearanceing? Scat H Beam Rods supposed to be good to 3.875" Stroke so im not worried about them hitting the cam or anything like that. Pistons say they are for a 3.75" stroke does it even matter ? Should this all work out good fellas? Let me know your input. Also whats the optimum optimum quench? Was gonna get a .040" head gasket but i could always get .039" or .041" or is it just a personal preference.
Also what do you guys think about her runnin on 91 octane gas? (most here in cali from the pump)
Static Compression comes out to 11.41 : 1 with 76cc heads (aluminum, AFRs) 4cc Domed Piston, .040" Head Gasket Thickness, 4.2" Head Gasket Bore, 4.155" Bore, 0 Deck Height, and a 3.8" Stroke.
Dynamic Compression comes out to 9.75 : 1 with a 6" Rod, 3.8" Stroke and an Intake Closing Point ABDC of 55
Cam Specs are
Solid Roller
Duration 264/272 @.050
.692/.692 Lift w/ 1.6 Ratio Rocker
107 LSA
valve timeing is
29btdc 55abdc
67bbdc 25atdc
Now if somebody wants to calculate the dynamic compression again for me that would be kool cuz it was kinda confusing. It said intake closing point @.050 abdc plus 15 degrees...i just put 55. Anywayz thanks for the help fellas.
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Car: 88' IROCZ
Engine: 388 TPI Motown 350 Race block
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 2.77
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Engine: 388 TPI Motown 350 Race block
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I can only tell that if had used the stock 350 with my rotating assembly I would have had clearance issues with the cam, and block.
I don't know what the differences are between a 350 & a 400.
I don't know what the differences are between a 350 & a 400.
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Originally posted by rgarcia63
I can only tell that if had used the stock 350 with my rotating assembly I would have had clearance issues with the cam, and block.
I don't know what the differences are between a 350 & a 400.
I can only tell that if had used the stock 350 with my rotating assembly I would have had clearance issues with the cam, and block.
I don't know what the differences are between a 350 & a 400.
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Engine: 415SBC Holley Stealth Ram
Transmission: 700R4
I use a 3.832 stroke in a 400 block, the only clearence issue I had was with the oil pan, Rod bolts with kit I got where already clearenced. You may also want to make sure you have clearence with that cam, you may need to run a small base circle cam with either stroker cranks
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