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I fyou remove the air pump but don't cap the headers what will happen?

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Old 07-15-2001 | 07:09 PM
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I fyou remove the air pump but don't cap the headers what will happen?

Besides a exaust leak.

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Old 07-15-2001 | 09:50 PM
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hehe, it'll make a nice machine gun sound but its not a good thing.. a pipe plug i screwed in one of the holes in my '83s manifold came out and it sounded like crap

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Old 07-15-2001 | 09:54 PM
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You won't get an exaust leak- there is a check valve between the AIR system and the headders, but that's deffenetally not good the cat or the rest of your emissions, because the cat uses the O2 the air system to break down hydrocarbons into CO2 and O2.
Old 07-15-2001 | 09:59 PM
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well then you should just go ahead and gut the cat since you're obviously not concerned about emissions. then the exhaust will be louder.
Old 07-15-2001 | 10:37 PM
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It WILL leak if you dont plug them Try it and you'll see.
Old 07-15-2001 | 11:19 PM
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Besides the leak?

I used to work at Domino's Pizza, they replaced the deck ovens we originally had with conveyor ovens... Middleby Marshall I think... Anyway, the way those worked was they would blow hot air (550ºF) through 1/4" diameter holes, very similar to what your car will do with those holes open. Its hot enough to cook a pizza in 4 minutes and 50 seconds at that temperature at a distance of 2.5" from the pizza... so basically anything within 2.5" will be cooked in a matter of minutes, and stuff a little farther away will soon follow.

The cat will work fine without the air system hooked up, it only aids the emissions process but its not absolutely necessary for it to work.

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Old 07-16-2001 | 12:41 AM
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If you keep the diverter valves from your stock manifolds and put those on the new headers you won't have an exhaust leak. I'm not sure what other effects it would have but as long as it's plugged with the valves, I don't see what harm it could cause..

Old 07-16-2001 | 07:52 AM
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I blew my plug out once when I was racing in the old 86TPI

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Old 07-16-2001 | 01:11 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by madmax:
Besides the leak?

I used to work at Domino's Pizza, they replaced the deck ovens we originally had with conveyor ovens... Middleby Marshall I think... Anyway, the way those worked was they would blow hot air (550ºF) through 1/4" diameter holes, very similar to what your car will do with those holes open. Its hot enough to cook a pizza in 4 minutes and 50 seconds at that temperature at a distance of 2.5" from the pizza... so basically anything within 2.5" will be cooked in a matter of minutes, and stuff a little farther away will soon follow.
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Sounds like an uncovered conspiracy! It it only takes 4 minutes and 50 seconds to cook a pizza, why do they always tell you 15-20 minutes over the phone?! We all must unite and DEMAND our pizzas in 5 minutes!
Old 07-16-2001 | 01:21 PM
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There is a check valve there, but you could still have a slight exhaust leak. The bigger problem is when you back off the gas from a high RPM, the vaccum in the exhaust manifolds draws fresh air in through the check valve and mixes with the hot, unburnt fuel creating a very loud backfire. Sounds like a gunshot. Not good for the rest of the exhaust. Just cap then with a radiator bypass cap and a hose clamp from an auto parts store.

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Old 07-16-2001 | 03:53 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by gravitar:
Sounds like an uncovered conspiracy! It it only takes 4 minutes and 50 seconds to cook a pizza, why do they always tell you 15-20 minutes over the phone?! We all must unite and DEMAND our pizzas in 5 minutes!</font>
It could even take less than that
If it took more than 10 minutes from start to finish, they are doing something wrong.
This is technical though, right?
Old 07-16-2001 | 04:39 PM
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The cat has been replaced by a off road pipe, I used screw on caps, But one fell off, so I was wondering if it was okay to drive it intill I got another.

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