Stell1579

ok i got a 74 dodge charger it has a 318 with that tinyass 2 barrle (thaught it was a onebarrle myself) now i am prolly gonna get a ase of headers,preformer manifold and was thinknig a carter 625 cfm carb. now what kind of power am i looking at with that?

now also being i am new to mopar (not leaving my gm heritage ofcourse )
does anyone know of any boards such as this dedicated to mopar ? or chargers?

thanks

-Stell

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1988 IROC 305TPI MINT!!
Mods= Accell SuperCoil, MSD 6A, Ported Plenum, No MAF Screans , K & N, 160 Thermostat+ Temp Switch
And Always Trying To Go Faster

Grim Reaper

For your first lesson on Mopars, replace your 318 with a 360. The 318 is "buildable", but it has a 42 c.i. disadvantage. Check out www.mopar.com for some specs on its crate Magnum 360s. The 340 block actually has a slightly larger bore than the 360s (4.040 vs 4.000), but 340 blocks are hard (and expensive) to find. 360s were used a lot in mid 70 Chryslers and trucks.

Not sure of where to go for websites similar to this, but if I find one, I'll tell you.

I like Mopars.

GOLD85

scrap the crapy 318, but i wouldn't put a 360 motor in, thats a ferekn truck motor, a 340 with 360 heads, a puprle shaft cam, 9.5:1 comp and you should be flyin

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when the green flag drops the bull$hit stops

350,performer RPM intake ,650dp, 700r4, headers, 3inch exhast

Engineboy

I'm sorry GOLD85 but have you seen the new 380 HP 360 C.I. Mopar crate engines???

If this is a "truck" motor I'll take one...(if I had a Mopar )




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1999 NBM Trans Am
1986 Chevy 3/4 ton pick up
1981 corvette
1995 Kawi ZX6R

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Tom Keliher

Stell, it's very simple.......

Use your "search" engine, and type in the word mopar......

Stell1579

i know Tom i just figured if anyone knew any proven good reasources not just guys that have modded their cars.

-Stell

Grim Reaper

On the matter of "truck motor", I actually like truck motors. They often have the advantage of heavy duty bottom ends (4 bolt mains, forged cranks) found in the high performance engines. Usually it is just the cam and heads that needs to be changed, to change the emphasis from "low-end torque" to "top-end horsepower".

I've recently been comparing the "short blocks" of the GM Fastburn 385HP 350 and their HT 383 truck motor. The HT 383 actually has a better bottom end than the Fastburn 385HP 350.

They both are 4 bolt mains, but the HT 383 has a steel crank. Put in the LT-4 Hot Cam and Fastburn heads, and the HT 383 will produce more power than even the ZZ430 (which is just a Fastburn 385 HP 350 with the LT-4 Hot Cam).

As you learn more about Mopar small blocks, I think you'll learn to like them. They have a longer connecting rod than a Chevy (6.125" vs 5.7"), shaft mounted rocker arms for stability and have the distributor WHERE IT IS EASY TO GET AT (in the front).

Of course, if you REALLY want some performance, you could always get the 575HP 500 c.i. Crate Wedge or the 610HP 528 c.i. Crate Hemi and shove that into your little Mopar. Those engines can bolt into any Mopar car that offered the 383 c.i. Wedge motor.

Engineboy

Sorry Glenn, but the small block Mopars distributor is in the rear, just like a SBC.

The big blocks are in the front.

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1999 NBM Trans Am
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1981 corvette
1995 Kawi ZX6R

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Confuzed1

iTrader: (4)

Well, I don't know of any websites that cover Chargers, but I'm sure they're out there. I can tell you that I owned a '72 Charger for 16 years. Sold it about 6 years ago, and is most likely still going. I had it modded rather nicely with a 1977 Cordoba 360 engine with Crane cam, Eldel. torqer intake and performer carb, headers, high-back leather bucket seats, a hidden headlight front bumper that I found at a junkyard from a 71 Superbee (same car) and I also installed a console with a "Slapstick" Auto. I wish I had it now so I could do a decent restoration, instead, I sold it. A few things about Mopars:
1. Dodges and Mopars of that era always seem to have there share of electrical problems.
2. If you want a car that will start every day, and get you anywhere you want to go, stick with the 318. My car had the original 318 that ran until the day I pulled it out in favor a 360. It had 146,000 miles on it, and didn't smoke.
3. If you are interested in going fast, GET A BIG BLOCK! This is important!! Yes, you can build a good stout, small block mopar, (and yes, I beat more than a few 350 chevy's with mine), but in order to get any "B" body mopar really moving, you need the torque and HP a big block would give you. B body mopars are not light. If possible, go with a 440. If you have any specific questions for me, feel free to e-mail me, and good luck!!

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Freshly rebuilt 19831/2 or 3/4 Camaro Z28 305 H.O. 3:73 Gears, BW T-5, Duel Snorkle, Rhino Clutch, 2040 Compu-cam, LS1 valve springs, porting, PST front end kit, K&N Filter and runs great but ain't streetable yet!!....Future Mods: Not yet decided if I'll keep it!

Bry in Virginia

As it happens, I have a '70 Charger sitting around, waiting for bigger & better things.

As it happens, it's got a 1974 318 motor lifted out of a 'Cuda.

By some bizarre coincidence, the P.O. had installed an Edelbrock intake and an Edelbrock 600 cfm carby (Edelbrock carbs are basically real pretty Carter AFBs), and it has headers too.

Is that weird enough for ya? And to think you bumped into me on a GM board...

Well. A year ago, on a lark, I had that car dyno tested. It got 148 hp and 287 lb-ft torque.

In case you're wondering, the car runs high-16s in the quarter.

Basically, the 318 is a slug. Dependable, durable, slow. Keep it in there until you can afford better but don't waste any performance money on it.

Bry

Stell1579

are you parting that charger? at the moment i am lookign for a gas tank. it has been one hell of a time trying to find a oem replacement.

i heard that a corrnet, satilite or a roadrunne's tank from 74 will fit it. only prob is finding one. and as far as the engine i am gona restore the car and get the engine running strong. and look for a 440 or that 360 magnum in the summit catalog.

as far as th etank anyone know where to get stuff liek that for OLD cars?

-Stell

Bry in Virginia

Stuff like that, the best thing you can do is grab a couple Mopar magazines (Mopar Muscle, High-Performance Mopar, Mopar Action) and order a catalog from every advertiser in there. Also, there are a few Mopar-specialist wrecking yards who advertise in those things, although I dunno what good it'd do to put another 25-year-old tank in there. And, you could try Mopar Collector's Guide or Hemmings to find a NOS unit someone is trying to get rid of. Last but not least it doesn't hurt to call the dealer -- a surprising amount of old junk is still in the parts network, if you have a Dodge dealer willing to work with you to track 'em down.

My Charger's not available for parts, sorry.

Cheers,
Bry

82birdman

I use to own a 318 dodge half ton and was the best rig i have ever drive. My father owned it first for a work truck and did that motor ever work. every day he would race any one at the lights (mustangs, camaro, birds ,etc) and the only loss was to a 68 cornet 440 no surprise I would stick with the 318 unless you can get you hands on a beefy 340 or go all the way to one of the really big boys 426/440

82birdman

oh by the way a good mag is high performance mopar they have a really big classifieds section

David Trimble

Try www.moparts.com.

robbob

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robbob

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...318&p=47247979

B84305-Streetmachine

youll notice a huge difference.....trust me... everything u do to a mopar makes a big difference.....u can get silly with it and end up sideways in a blink

Stell1579

hey guys, i forgot i even posted this.

since then here is what i got stock bottom end 318 weiand stealth intake, carter afb 625cfm 4bbl, cam is 204/214 424/442
probably a set of headers

now my bigest bottleneck is probably the stock heads. (1.78 intake 1.50exhaust)

i am thinking to go with a set of milled 360 heads (1.88 intake and 1.60 exhaust) but donot know if it is worth the extra 500 $$

what kind of power am i lookign at there, i estimated around 220+, desktop dyno says 250HP with 310 ftLBS and a nice tourque curve

-Stell




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1988 Pontiac Trans Am. 305 TPI Mods=MSD 6A+Coil+Wires, K & N, SLP AirFoil,180 Thermostat, Cold Air, Hooker Aerochamber Catback

1974 Dodge Charger , Currently restoring but has a 318 with Crane Cam, Carter AFB 4BBl Carb sitting on a Weiand Stealth Intake

RIP 1988 IROC-Z
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Corry

Well, not to spoil the 340-360 debate going on, but I heard rumors of them bringing a 35x hemi back...now if that turned out to be the 360, I look like a dumbass. I haven't been keeping up w/ mopar...although...as tratorius as this may sound, if they are making hemis again...with the same potental as the old ones...I'd rip out whatever is in my TA and force fit the hemi in! There was only 1 elephant engine! I guess, just something else to look into


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Corry Lazarowitz
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1987 Pontiac Trans AM (GTA?) 350 or is it a 305?! TPI
SLP 1 3/4" headers, 3" cat back (stock cat
MSD ignition.
MSD Blaster SS coil.
3.73 Rear end gears
Accell 8.8 Wires
Bosh +4 Spark Plugs (Don't know if they really help but hell!)
Holley AFPR
Race Built Automatic trans ('vette servo, shift kit, tightly packed clutches)--just needs titanium gears now!
Newly gutted cat (the car gutted it's own cat!)
Hypertech Chip (Just found out I had it! :eek
More soon when funds are avail...