i was told today that i can take a non-roller block and add a roller cam just have to drill holes on top so that spyder looking thing that holds the plates that keep the lifters twisting.... and thats it....
is that all there is to do? if so then why are there the $500 kits to make a non-roller block a roller one?

 

That is not true. Theres a heck of alot more to it then drilling some holes. It's a whole crapload of jerry rigging. None of which any smart person would ever waste the time to do to an engine to save a couple bux. Either buy the retrofit rollers, or find a roller block.

 

i agree go with a roller block.

 

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...d&pagenumber=2

If you drill those holes, they go RIGHT DIRECTLY INTO the oil passage that feeds pressurized oil to the bearings.

Ever wonder what would happen if your engine sprang a massive oil leak that took all your bearing pressure away?

Either get the right block to use the factory Frankenstein; or use the good old simple reliable stuff that all the rest of us had been using for all those decades we'd been building roller motors before the factory came along and hipped up to the idea and butchered it.

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW

This guy here has a good deal going.His feedback says its an excellent setup and well documented,i havnt tried it myself but feedback does look good.I'd try it if i didnt have a roller block

 

I've actually looked into that before as well. He didn't have the kind of feedback he has now. Only reason I was looking is because the rebuilt 350 in my uncle's garage is a 70s non-roller block and I'd like to convert it to roller.

 

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that oil galley also feed the lifters?

Starving them of oil is just asking for a valve spring to break.

 

guess it depends on how deep you go.wonder how deep you can go

 

Np, that one doesn't feed the lifters; there are 2 others, drilled from front to rear like this one, that go right through the middle of the lifter bores, to feed them. Look at a block, around the front or rear cam bearing bore; you'll see 3 plugs; the top ones are the ends of the main passage, the 2 to the side of the cam bearings are the lifter ones.

Ebay feedback merely means he sent the instructions in a timely manner; it doesn't necesarily mean the idea isn't risky.

 

I bought that "package" from the guy explaining how to retro fit roller lifters, etc....lemme tell ya, after reading through all that garbage, you'll have moer money wrapped up in fuel driving all over creation trying to get the things needed and time wasted getting the block prepped for all this stuff. ALot easier and better in the long run to buy the retro fit's and call it a day.

 

I'll email ya a beer for a copy of that

 

I'll bet you would but all I have left of the files he sent are the pictures. I had major computer meltdown this fall and we had to wipe everything off and load everything back into the tower from scratch-tried saving everything important I could think of before we wiped out the tower. Somehow we lost the step by step tutorial he sends with it, but i do have 27 pictures. It was all sent to me in a zip file and eveytime I try to open it (it's under a dp. program) I dont have the something or other to open it-all i get is these chinese signs things instead of the usual letters.

Not saying it a not worth buying-if I owned a scrap yard to pick all the parts from the different engines needed to make this happen. Like I said, for as much block work that needs to be done and all the many different parts, your better off buying retro-fit lifters and being done with it, time and money ahead on the long run-when you look at the big picture of it all.

 

I feel your pain buddy

I bought a dvd burner too....back up files from my hard drive so i wouldnt have that problem

Then i sold the used burner to upgrade to a better one

Guess what i forgot to take out of the old burner before i sold it?

You guessed it my back up Disk

 

It would've been soo bad, but I'm about as computer illiterate as they come, so I had my nephew and his buddy over here doing it for me, 13hrs later it was done. Still finding the little stuff I did'nt know I was missing until you remember hey I have that....ahh shiit, now I dont LOL!!

 

well i couldnt resist i had to buy it to check it out for myself

If anyone is interested just message me

 

Why would you waste $20 on that? Didn't you check out the link RB posted? Kingtal0n tried that. It was a total and utter disaster. People made fun of him for trying it and he was dead set to prove everyone wrong. Now he admits that it's a terrible idea.

 

It seems to me like there were a handful of guys who tried it out, and KingtalOn was the only guy anyone heard back from.
What happened to the rest of the guys?
And besides grinding into the water jacket and the JB Weld not working for a repair, what other problems did he have?

http://www.sdpc2000.com/cart.asp?act...514&pid=210398

 

I dont see whats so hard about it looks pretty straight forward how did he fug it up?

that stock set up according the guys at sallee chevrolet is good for .540 lift. they dont recommend going anymore than that.thats the only downfall i can see?

 

The stock setup for the V6?

 

Probably you could say both V6 and 8 because they run the same hardware.

 

wait wait, ive read on here that v6 and v8 lifters are different in height. if you use v8 rollers in a non roller v8, you "should" have some clearence issues with the lifter oil passages.

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...+accept+roller

read through that, theres a pic in there that shows a v6 roller next to a v8 roller. bout a .4" difference. but, from what ive been seein on this forum, when it comes to converting over from nonroller to roller, do some research and just do it! there are select few on here that I have seen that have actually done the conversion. If I can find some solid rollers at a good price, im goin for it. BE DIFFERENT!!!!

 

You can use solid rollers on a hyd roller cam, just have to be sure to set at zero lash.

 

oh ok i was thinkin 4.3 v6