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Old 08-31-2004, 01:52 AM
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Turbo?Super?Stroker?

alright ive come to the conclusion that i need some kind of big power. i want one of the 3 in the title....the car is carbureted, and i can change to TPI for 900 installed. but im not sure i want that... a stroker is gonna be the cheapest because i wont need a new radiator right away, or anything else for that matter, itll all go to the internals. someone help me out here, can i run a procharger from a carb? or is the stroker the best way to get power?
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Stroker would be a simple way to go like you said and alot less engine bay clutter with pipes and tubes, but you wont be able to match the power of a super charger or turbo for that matter with a N/A unless you go hog wild. A procharger would be a great way to go since you can still drive the car if something in the charger should fail and yes you can run a carb with a procharger/turbo. They have a hat that bolts onto the carb where you breather usually bolts onto. Key with whatever you do is matching up componenets so the entire package works together.
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i know none of this will be cheap, and the stroker would be the cheapet out of them, but for a procharger withthe carb thing, how much am i looking at? i think im goign to do my body first, then do engine...as a matter of fact, how much would any of this be?
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What do you want out of the car. The stroker will be an easier daily driver IMO, and a supercharger would be less driver friendly on a daily basis.

What do you want out of the setup? Track times? Power?
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What do you want out of the car. The stroker will be an easier daily driver IMO, and a supercharger would be less driver friendly on a daily basis.

What do you want out of the setup? Track times? Power?
People think that but we put a weiand setup on by buddys truck right on top a 4 month old mexican crate engine. He went from 14 MPG to 19 and gained enough power to rip up a set of new BFG's in a week. Holley and Weiand sell single carbs SC for $2,000 and off ebay Ive seen them for $600+. Much easyer on the street then any hoped up stroker.
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Originally posted by SSC
For nice bolt on power you need to go back to your roots

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Nice play on words!

In all reality, If you put some sort of forced induction sysytem on your motor, chances are you will need new internals anyhow. If you want it too last, you'll need forged pistons, rods and a forged steel crank. You'll need very good valve springs, and even better valves. Remeber, when your at full boost, the dynamic compression goes through the roof, requiring some serious parts. I'd make the most out of your combo... If your still not satisfied, look into a procharger. And yess, they sell carb friendly supercharger.
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Well I'll give you my opinion. Like was said earlier, any way you go you are going to need stronger internals, so if you are going to do that, you might was well get a fully balanced stroker rotating assembly. I just bought one and I am in the process of putting it together, along with a lot of other things on the car. Then if you want a power adder to go with it go for it. I'm putting a 150 shot of nitrous on mine To give you a reference, I just bought my stroker kit for about $1100, and that was for a fully balanced rotating assembly (fly wheel, harmonic balancer, rods, forged pistons, and crank. You can buy kits cheaper but they usually aren't balanced, and you still have to get a fly wheel and harmonic balancer on your own. When it's all done and on the road I'll let you know how it went.
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the car is a daily driver, and nothing is going to change that...i need something that is going to fit under the hood, not a wieland...i dont have the money to but a cowl hood right now. Id like to do the stroker because i can keep it all consealed and when vettes pull up next to me, i can run them and they wont know what hit them...i hate when a civic pulls up and revs but i dont want to run and get beat, its sad when the car runs like ****, and right now, wont even start...
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Word to the wise, even if you buy a balanced rotating assembly, take it to your local machine shop and have it balanced again. Think I'm joking, callyour machine shop and ask them how well the "package" parts usually balance out, 9 out of 10 times it is not what the shop would let go out the door if they were doing the job themselves.
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Originally posted by IHI
Word to the wise, even if you buy a balanced rotating assembly, take it to your local machine shop and have it balanced again. Think I'm joking, callyour machine shop and ask them how well the "package" parts usually balance out, 9 out of 10 times it is not what the shop would let go out the door if they were doing the job themselves.
I totally agree. The tolerances for balancing on these so called "balanced rotating assembly" are absolutely horrible.
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so is the stroker is gonna be cheapest or what?
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Yeah I think the stroker would be the cheapest, unless you are going to get a turbo setup off a junk yard diesel truck or something like that.
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