Heads/Cam/Intake Swap...looking for torque
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Car: 86 Trans Am
Engine: 406
Transmission: TH350, 4200
Axle/Gears: Moser 9", 3.89
Heads/Cam/Intake Swap...looking for torque
I plan on doing a head/cam/intake swap this winter. Thinking of something along the lines of..
1) Iron Pro-Topline 180 64cc, xe274, perf. RPM
2) Ported Vortec, xe274???, vortec perf. RPM
3) Something along the lines of 1 or 2.
This car is my daily driver 8 months a year. I want to put together something with a flat torque curve. I have a 2500 stall and plan on swapping to 3.73 gears. What do you guys think.
1) Iron Pro-Topline 180 64cc, xe274, perf. RPM
2) Ported Vortec, xe274???, vortec perf. RPM
3) Something along the lines of 1 or 2.
This car is my daily driver 8 months a year. I want to put together something with a flat torque curve. I have a 2500 stall and plan on swapping to 3.73 gears. What do you guys think.
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if you want a real flat torque curve, i would go with a smaller cam than the 274, its probably a little on the big side to make low end torque.
but ported vortec heads and an RPM air-gap will make great power.
but ported vortec heads and an RPM air-gap will make great power.
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I think #1 would be good. You might want a 268 for a daily driver though, but it all depends on what you consider streetable. Also shoot for about 10:1 compression.
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Car: 86 Trans Am
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Well, I am running about 9.1:1 now with 74cc heads, so I figure about 10.1 or 10.2:1 withhh 64cc heads....depending on gaskeet thickness. I would imagine that would be about the max I could go on 91 octane (which is the highest we have around here).
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Car: '85 Z28
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Yep, you don't want to go much over 10:1 on 91 octane, but you can get away with a little more with a larger cam, like 230+ duration.
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For daily street torque and power its hard to beat non ported vortecs and the performer rpm.
Leave the intake port stock and polish the exhaust port of you want.
Don't go overboad on the cam. A Xe 262 would be better for a daily driver.
I used a generic 214/224@.050 .442/.465" 112 cam with great success on mine. Lots of power right off idle to 5500.
Good on gas.
ran 13.0's ...
The Xe 274 will make a little more top end but mileage and
flexability will suffer overall. Needs a bit of a converter.
Find the cam here
woops after reading your post again I see you already have that cam. I'd try it with the vortec first before going to something else.
A xe 274 will not like shorty headers or a single pipe system much.
Leave the intake port stock and polish the exhaust port of you want.
Don't go overboad on the cam. A Xe 262 would be better for a daily driver.
I used a generic 214/224@.050 .442/.465" 112 cam with great success on mine. Lots of power right off idle to 5500.
Good on gas.
ran 13.0's ...
The Xe 274 will make a little more top end but mileage and
flexability will suffer overall. Needs a bit of a converter.
Find the cam here
woops after reading your post again I see you already have that cam. I'd try it with the vortec first before going to something else.
A xe 274 will not like shorty headers or a single pipe system much.
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Car: 86 Trans Am
Engine: 406
Transmission: TH350, 4200
Axle/Gears: Moser 9", 3.89
What other factors besides intake runner size and valve size affect the power band?
F-BIRD'88, could you post a little more info about your setup?
F-BIRD'88, could you post a little more info about your setup?
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Originally posted by Trevor Jacek
What other factors besides intake runner size and valve size affect the power band?
F-BIRD'88, could you post a little more info about your setup?
What other factors besides intake runner size and valve size affect the power band?
F-BIRD'88, could you post a little more info about your setup?
M/T ET streets / Sportsman Pros
Crane blue Racer # WG-1159
280/290 214-224 @.050" 112 .442-.465"
http://www.blueracer.cranecams.com/chevysb.htm
Stock th700r4 with corvette 2200stall and 4.10's 13.4's @104
Th350with B&M 3500 stall 13.0's @104
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Car: 86 Trans Am
Engine: 406
Transmission: TH350, 4200
Axle/Gears: Moser 9", 3.89
What do you guys think of this package. A nice flat torque curve with monster torque. Anyone running something silmilar to this?
355ci Chevy Dyno Packages Power at Flywheel
RPM Torque H.P.
2500: 394 189
3000: 411 234
3500: 434 288
4000: 469 356
4500: 470 403
5000: 446 424
5500: 410 430
6000: 356 407
Dyno Test Criteria
Horsepower: 430 HP
Engine: 355ci
Heads: AFR Street 190 Heads
Compression: 9.5
Carburetor: Holley 0-80779 750 cfm
Ignition: MSD Distributor 34° Timing
Cam: Comp Cams 270 Magnum Hyd. Cam
Exhaust: 1 5/8" Headers
Fuel: 93 Octane Pump Gas
Manifold: Engine built and dyno tested by AFR
Engine built and dyno tested by AFR
http://www.airflowresearch.com/dyno/chevy_dyno.htm
355ci Chevy Dyno Packages Power at Flywheel
RPM Torque H.P.
2500: 394 189
3000: 411 234
3500: 434 288
4000: 469 356
4500: 470 403
5000: 446 424
5500: 410 430
6000: 356 407
Dyno Test Criteria
Horsepower: 430 HP
Engine: 355ci
Heads: AFR Street 190 Heads
Compression: 9.5
Carburetor: Holley 0-80779 750 cfm
Ignition: MSD Distributor 34° Timing
Cam: Comp Cams 270 Magnum Hyd. Cam
Exhaust: 1 5/8" Headers
Fuel: 93 Octane Pump Gas
Manifold: Engine built and dyno tested by AFR
Engine built and dyno tested by AFR
http://www.airflowresearch.com/dyno/chevy_dyno.htm
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Car: 1986 Iroc
Engine: 454 Demon 850DP
Transmission: TH350, 3500 stall
Axle/Gears: 3.73
Trevor there must be a package that will let you run in the high 12's and still have decent manners on the street. That 430 hp package you posted looks like a good way to get there.
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Car: 86 Trans Am
Engine: 406
Transmission: TH350, 4200
Axle/Gears: Moser 9", 3.89
Well, this package would likely be as close as any. I am pretty sure that it will be AFRs now. Its not going to be a roller cam, but I will use 1.6 roller rockers for more lift.
The comp 270H magnum in that package is only 224/224 470/470 110*. Would be 501/501 with 1.6s.
AFR heads have great all around flow especially in the mid lift range. Accordingly, they reccomend smaller cams. Everyone on here with AFRs seems to have a roller cam (and a mini/super/stealth ram ). I am curious to know what kinda combos real guys are running. Maybe I should strart another thread.
The comp 270H magnum in that package is only 224/224 470/470 110*. Would be 501/501 with 1.6s.
AFR heads have great all around flow especially in the mid lift range. Accordingly, they reccomend smaller cams. Everyone on here with AFRs seems to have a roller cam (and a mini/super/stealth ram ). I am curious to know what kinda combos real guys are running. Maybe I should strart another thread.
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