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Old 07-28-2003 | 01:46 PM
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Swapping power steering to manual?

I hear it can be done, but what do I need exactly (parts/tools etc), and how big of a job is it?
Old 07-28-2003 | 02:39 PM
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manual box, pitman arm puller, that's about it. pretty simple job
Old 07-28-2003 | 02:39 PM
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THe steering box you will need is the manual box out of an s-10. I believe it is a direct bolt in mod but i am not positive.
Old 07-28-2003 | 06:02 PM
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Cool, thanks for the replys. What year s-10 should I be looking for? Is it something I should just go to a junk yard for? And is this a project that could probably be completed in a day?
Old 07-28-2003 | 07:16 PM
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how often do you drive this car and is it a street driven car? I'd like to know how driveable the car would be as a daily driver and whether you liked the swap in the end. Anyone on here done it and have positive/negative views of it.
Old 07-28-2003 | 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by 19doug90
how often do you drive this car and is it a street driven car? I'd like to know how driveable the car would be as a daily driver and whether you liked the swap in the end. Anyone on here done it and have positive/negative views of it.
It's still a street driven car, but it's not a daily driver. I usually only take it out on weekends or for short trips, so a couple times a week.

It looks like I'll probably be doing the swap, so I'll let you know how it goes.
Old 07-28-2003 | 08:49 PM
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sounds good to me. My car is a daily driver but it doesnt see winters so i think id be willing to put out a little more effort so i didnt have to turn the steering wheel something like 3 1/2 times just to get it to go around a 90 degree corner....(im assuming a manual doesnt need to be turned as far). Anyways yeah buddy me if you dont mind and let me know what its like. I will probably buddy you and bother you in a while if you dont get back to me just encase you forget this is something im actually really interested in.
Old 07-28-2003 | 08:52 PM
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ooo lookey what i found for you this should help with the swap....http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...0+steering+box
Old 07-28-2003 | 08:57 PM
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look for late 80's up tp 90....runs about $35.oo here in omaha. Hanson'sTruck Salvage.
Old 07-28-2003 | 09:03 PM
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http://www.ezfindparts.com/searchresults.aspx

Sorry bum link!
Go here and enter for a 90 s-10 manual steering box...plety to be found....http://www.ezfindparts.com/vehicleidentification.aspx

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Old 07-28-2003 | 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by 19doug90
so i think id be willing to put out a little more effort so i didnt have to turn the steering wheel something like 3 1/2 times just to get it to go around a 90 degree corner....(im assuming a manual doesnt need to be turned as far).
IIRC, my '72 Nova had to be turned MORE. I could be wrong though. It's the small gear/big gear thing.

My friend has a '69 Camaro and I have a '72. His is manual and mine's power. He turns his a lot more than I do mine.

It could be something about a 69 though. :sillylol:
Old 07-28-2003 | 11:43 PM
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From what I know, you will have to turn it more with a manual. It has to be designed that way, or it would be nearly impossible to turn it at low speeds.

Thanks for the info guys!
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A steering box replacement can be done in a day. I know because I recently replaced mine.

What I want to know is why on earth you would even want to go to a manual steering box? For handling and turning abilities the quick ratio steering box is best.
Old 07-29-2003 | 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by 87WS6
A steering box replacement can be done in a day. I know because I recently replaced mine.

What I want to know is why on earth you would even want to go to a manual steering box? For handling and turning abilities the quick ratio steering box is best.
Well, the current project is mostly a straight line/cruising car, so the saved weight off the front will help.

Currently, they power steering pump isn't even being held on correctly, it's kinda rigged on since after we ported the heads.

And the biggest reason is my power steering went out on me the other day, so I have a good excuse
Old 07-30-2003 | 12:28 AM
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Originally posted by 87WS6
A steering box replacement can be done in a day. I know because I recently replaced mine.

What I want to know is why on earth you would even want to go to a manual steering box? For handling and turning abilities the quick ratio steering box is best.
I just dont like the feeling of the way the steering wheel comes back around when completing a turn. Have to find a way to rig up a power assisted steering like they have in race cars.
Old 07-30-2003 | 01:23 AM
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Originally posted by 19doug90
I just dont like the feeling of the way the steering wheel comes back around when completing a turn.
That's caused from the caster settings. From what I know, that's what you want. Why would you want to have to force the wheel around for the car to go straight again?

Anyway...
You can make a car with power steering stop doing that if the caster setting is changed. You'll have to find an alignment shop in your area that's capable of doing that though. A lot of them don't know how. All they know is what the factory specs are.

Don't call the Car-X Man. :sillylol:
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