Lucas Oil Stabilizer...
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Lucas Oil Stabilizer...
Well I thought I'd add some in since I'm doin my oil change. Added bout 3/4 of the bottle (Oil Stabilizer). Took my car for a little drive earlier and my oil pressure is alot better now. In traffic it stood over 30 and never got any lower and this was at 235* lol. Any one else have good reviews or bad experiances with it. No more worries with the power adder now
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Car: 92 GTA/ 00 TA
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My impressions of it are that it's basically just a thicker oil. Keep in mind I have no personal experience with it. I just "know" what I've read.
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i've used they're oil aaditive with no ill complaints. slighty higher oil pressure and quiets noisy lifters. good product. it leave a sticky, greasy film on parts and on your skin.
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I just tried some today. It is some thick stuff. I havent really noticed much difference. I put some of there fuel treatment in to for no particular reason. Maybe it will keep my carb nice and clean.
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I use it in my oil in my minivan. Its the only way i can get the oil pressure above 15 lbs. Don't know about long term effects on an engine but the right now effects are great to me.
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Car: 1985 Iroc-z
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i work in a bus garage where we fix buses up to go from ohio to florida non-stop, and we ALWAYS add the lucas oil treatment. My boss loves it, he adds it to all of his cars (all 1000000000000 billion of them) and the lucas gas treatment works well too. I mixxed some in our toe-motor and it all of sudden is blowing out white smoke for about an hour so it cleaned it out good.
i'll use all lucas products on my cars, including the oil/transmission and gas.
Good results none the less with the buses n vehicles and machines.
i'll use all lucas products on my cars, including the oil/transmission and gas.
Good results none the less with the buses n vehicles and machines.
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Car: 1988 Trans Am GTA
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I have seen the display at an Advance Auto Parts and noticed that there were quite a bit of air bubbles in the oil. Now, aren't air bubbles bad for hydraulic lifters since the air tends to compress and the lifter might collapse some? Just a thought.
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Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
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I should say it is a thick oil! At 100 degrees C, the kinematic viscosity is 110 cSt. That compares to a certain synthetic 20W50 with which I am familiar with a viscostiy of 18.3 cSt @ 100 degrees C.
Get a reputable oil manufacturer that will tell you in writing that an additive will make their product work better and not void any expressed or implied warranty of their oil, and I'll buy you lunch.
Get a reputable oil manufacturer that will tell you in writing that an additive will make their product work better and not void any expressed or implied warranty of their oil, and I'll buy you lunch.
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That's a hell of a sig you got there...
That's a hell of a sig you got there...
Write to GM Powertrain and tell them you "Really want to protect your new Corvette or Cadillac and plan on using Lucas oil stabilizer from the very moment you buy it." Ask them how much more warranty you'll get because of that. If they reply at all, you'll probably get a voided warranty certificate notice back in the mail...
Any time a product uses testimonials instead of technical data in their advertising, you should be suspect. Look at the LucasOil.com site, and see if you can find technical data. Lots of testimonial (which is simply another word for "opinion") but no data. Hmmm... Could it be that they'll be in the same trouble that other companies who've used testimonials in their advertising have experienced? Companies that sold crap like ProLong? Slick-50? TMT? Will the F.T.C. be making gobs of penalty money from Lucas, just like it did from all of those? I've gotta wonder.
As for the OTR busses, I'm glad you're having good success with the additive. Take those 40 passengers out of the bus and fill it with 80,000 pounds of taconite and see how long it lasts. Trucks in the iron range do that for millions of miles with REAL loads, and do it on Delvac or Delvac synthetic, not glorified additives. Trucks in teh Rocky Range with three pups do it on real oil. Trucks in the Great Lakes basin regularly do it with 120,000 pounds of crushed rock and don't need additives (and don't wear out prematurely, either). See if any of those engine manufactureres, like Caterpillar, Cummins, Navastar, Detroit, or Benz offer any advice on additives.
STP does the same thing, and has done the same thing for decades. If I had a smoking, worn, P.O.S. engine, I might try either of those as a temporary solution, too.
Come to think of it - no, I wouldn't. I'm at a point in my life that I'd repair it correctly instead of sticking on band-aid "fixes". I get tired or rework and substandard crap.
But that's just my "testimonial"...
BTW - I hold 55 PSI at 1,200 RPM with only Mobil 1 10W30, but that's only at 95°F air temperature and 205°F coolant temperature. I try not to run at 235° if I can avoid it.
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I have used the product, it does do what it claims egrr.. what people testify about. It does raise the oil pressure and stop some smoking problems. If you want a band aid for the engine then yes it does work temporaraly, its not guide seals/pistion rings in a can. I do use it in my transmissions that I dont think are worth running synthetic in and it does hold up better then gear oil or ATF with no ill effects yet. But then Ive got the original 3.73 12 bolt from my truc with well over 400K on it never been touched, bearings NEVER replaced running Amsoil in the differential since 76.
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keep in mind using something to raise low oil pressure is just masking the syptoms. My buddys 94 camaro with a lt1 auto started showing low pressure and the oil light started to come on when warm at idle. After spending a week checking wires, sensors and so forth he finally pulled it and took it to be rebuilt. When we torn it down the number three main was dead and the other s were on their way out(all were down to copper) It didn't make any noise but if he had kept running it instead of fixing the problem he'd probably would have ended up buying a new crank instead of being able to save his old one. something to think about
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I was formely employed by a quick change oil place and I can safely say the reason why I am not there now is because I could not sell people the snake oil fixs they expected me to and sleep at night.
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... But then Ive got the original 3.73 12 bolt from my truc with well over 400K on it never been touched, bearings NEVER replaced running Amsoil in the differential since 76.
... But then Ive got the original 3.73 12 bolt from my truc with well over 400K on it never been touched, bearings NEVER replaced running Amsoil in the differential since 76.
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Originally posted by Vader
I'm guessing that you can attribute the long life of your axle to good design and Amsoil, not any additives you may have poured in.
I'm guessing that you can attribute the long life of your axle to good design and Amsoil, not any additives you may have poured in.
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Originally posted by Vader
STP does the same thing, and has done the same thing for decades. If I had a smoking, worn, P.O.S. engine, I might try either of those as a temporary solution, too.
But that's just my "testimonial"...
STP does the same thing, and has done the same thing for decades. If I had a smoking, worn, P.O.S. engine, I might try either of those as a temporary solution, too.
But that's just my "testimonial"...
First thing I thought of when I read this post was "STP".
I always thought it was a poor man's way to extend an oil change when the oil in your car has pretty much "broken down" and you're running high on miles, also helps raise your oil pressure because it's as thick as molasses....
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kind of an old post to awaken but i've used it and it does seem to help (all other additives dont seem to do much, if anything)
it is very thick and can be used as a thickening agent, i suppose it might last thicker longer than the oil it self, but i've never had that problem considering i am always adding more oil
does this stuff help prevent dry starts?
it is very thick and can be used as a thickening agent, i suppose it might last thicker longer than the oil it self, but i've never had that problem considering i am always adding more oil
does this stuff help prevent dry starts?
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Originally posted by Vader
...and a good bit of logic above the signature....
But that's just my "testimonial"...
...and a good bit of logic above the signature....
But that's just my "testimonial"...
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Yeah, what gives with the ATF thing? I've seen it here a lot and would like to know the bottom line on what the ATF actually does, if you don't mind me asking...
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Have a look and then see if you still want to waste your money and pour that crap into your car.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/lucas/lucas.htm
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/lucas/lucas.htm
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As stated above, don't use Lucas, or any other "racing" oil unless your engine does nothing but drive in those conditions.
Lucas has a very specific additive package that is designed to help lubricate at high rpm for extended periods of time.
so lucas might be a good buy for your circle track car that runs at 6000rpm for 4 hours straight.
but for your street car lucas simply wasn't designed for street driving.
save your money and your engine, and avoid oil additives like the plauge. (excluding posi additive for your differential, and the such)
a good fully sythetic oil is about as good of lubrication you can find for you street engine in this day and age.
Lucas has a very specific additive package that is designed to help lubricate at high rpm for extended periods of time.
so lucas might be a good buy for your circle track car that runs at 6000rpm for 4 hours straight.
but for your street car lucas simply wasn't designed for street driving.
save your money and your engine, and avoid oil additives like the plauge. (excluding posi additive for your differential, and the such)
a good fully sythetic oil is about as good of lubrication you can find for you street engine in this day and age.
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Car: 83Z28 HO
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Originally posted by joshwilson3
What do you think about auto-rx? That is something you use to clean out the engine. I've read alot of good stuff about and on the bobistheoilguy.com website. It is even endorsed by Terry Dyson, which I hear is a very knowledable individual.
What do you think about auto-rx? That is something you use to clean out the engine. I've read alot of good stuff about and on the bobistheoilguy.com website. It is even endorsed by Terry Dyson, which I hear is a very knowledable individual.
They used to have this stuff called "Motor Flush" I think.....
You added a Qt. to the oil and ran it for 1/2 hour after it warmed up.
Then you changed the oil. The stuff works!! I haven't used it for years since I switched to synthetic oil. IMO that's one of the major advantages of running synthetic oil. Engine stays clean....
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Car: 83Z28 HO
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Straight from the web site:
I guess you could apply the word "additive" since you are adding it to the engine. I guess you could wordsmith other things in the description too. Besides, I was referring to the Motor Flush, not the Auto RX stuff.
I'm not claiming to be some kind of "expert" on what additives work or don't work. I'll leave that to the people that think they do - I just know what's worked for me....
Auto-Rx®, (US Patent # 6,544,349), is a specially formulated, all-natural metal cleaner designed to thoroughly clean the internals of your engine.
I'm not claiming to be some kind of "expert" on what additives work or don't work. I'll leave that to the people that think they do - I just know what's worked for me....
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sure it'll quiet some noises and even may solve a smoking problem.. true.. its also true that you can quiet a rod knock with some gear lube in the oil.. i wouldn't refer to either of them as a "solution"..........never made sense to me, it simply accomplishes the same thing as switching to a thicker oil for the price of the oil + the addative.. what will they think of next?
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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer...
Have a look and then see if you still want to waste your money and pour that crap into your car.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/lucas/lucas.htm
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/lucas/lucas.htm
the only problem i have with his experiments is that he has 2 variables and no control, wouldnt it make more sense to have 1 regular oil non synth, 1 fully synth, and then 1 non synth with lucas and 1 fully synth with lucas in it? because i mean all that is proving to me is that lucas doesnt work with synthetic oil. also he doesnt state how much additive he added, when u add additive to your engine or rear end its a certain proportion, by that i mean theres a pint of additive to 3 quarts oil. ive added lucas to my oil, yet my oil doesnt look like starbucks coffee, is it perhaps that im a special case? or that maybe that milkshake effect just doesnt happen to anyones car. has anyone here had the same results as bob?
and whos to say whos pocket is this guy in? all im saying is that obviously lucas has been making products that people find effective. but i do know that website is useful ive read it before, he has this section on oil filters and how fram is complete junk, but thats besides the point, and this is just my two cents, oh and lucas makes a zinc additive for my flat tappet cam engine, so i do trust them
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