What's the difference between Limited Slip and Posi?
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Posi means that both of the drive wheels always spin at the same speed all the time. Limited slip allows one wheel to spin fast than the other for better turning, but if it detects one wheel spinning much fast than the other it makes them both lock up and spin. Both better than a differential where only the easiest wheel spins.
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They are the same thing. There is no difference. They do the same thing, work the same way, and have the same effect. They are 2 different brand names for the identical same parts, down to the very part number in some instances. "PosiTraction" was simply GM's trademark for their limited slip rear ends in the 60s.
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Originally posted by AbsoluteZero
Posi means that both of the drive wheels always spin at the same speed all the time.
Posi means that both of the drive wheels always spin at the same speed all the time.
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So if everyone stopped calling there Limited Slip ( RPO G80) a Posi it would eliminate the confusing. But then we would have no questions such as "how can I tell if I have a Posi ???" :lala: :lala:
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Originally posted by DJP87Z28
So if everyone stopped calling there Limited Slip ( RPO G80) a Posi it would eliminate the confusing. But then we would have no questions such as "how can I tell if I have a Posi ???" :lala: :lala:
So if everyone stopped calling there Limited Slip ( RPO G80) a Posi it would eliminate the confusing. But then we would have no questions such as "how can I tell if I have a Posi ???" :lala: :lala:
It's short for Positive Traction by GM.
It's like calling a Trans Am a "TA", or Throttle Body Injection a "TBI".
It's just an abbreviation for the real name.
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Yes, Positive-Traction is GM's name for a Limited Slip Rear. However; to the uniformed young owners they think its a very special rear for racing, burnouts & etc. So call it what it really is and end the confusion. Its like calling a Wheel a Rim....
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I don't think that GM has called it "posi" or "positive traction" in many years. If you look at the window stickers of any newer car it will say "Limited Slip Differential".
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Originally posted by John Millican
No, a "locker" or "spool" makes both wheels spin at the same speed all the time not a "posi".
No, a "locker" or "spool" makes both wheels spin at the same speed all the time not a "posi".
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Well 'warrior_91', looks like you have all the synonyms for limited slip nailed down, but I'm betting you now want that antonym...right...
They call it an "OPEN rear end"...A lotttt of people get limited & open, confused as being the same...
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They call it an "OPEN rear end"...A lotttt of people get limited & open, confused as being the same...
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Originally posted by Morley
Why? That's what it is. What's in a name? A rose by any other name...
Why? That's what it is. What's in a name? A rose by any other name...
they think posi is special
and a limited slip is like an open differential
also posi was just GM's name back in the day as was stated many times
now all it is called is limited slip
and what if I am driving around with a quaife style LSD
can't call it a posi-traction anyways
cause posi is GM's name for it
but this wouldn't be a gm style lsd unit so
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Originally posted by rx7speed
cause a lot of people get posi and limited slip mixed up
they think posi is special
cause posi is GM's name for it
but this wouldn't be a gm style lsd unit so
cause a lot of people get posi and limited slip mixed up
they think posi is special
cause posi is GM's name for it
but this wouldn't be a gm style lsd unit so
Hmmm, positrac IS special and lets see...third gen F body site...sounds like GM to me...sooooooo its a Posi.:lala: :lala: :lala: :lala:
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Originally posted by Morley
Hmmm, positrac IS special and lets see...third gen F body site...sounds like GM to me...sooooooo its a Posi.:lala: :lala: :lala: :lala:
Hmmm, positrac IS special and lets see...third gen F body site...sounds like GM to me...sooooooo its a Posi.:lala: :lala: :lala: :lala:
Even GM calls it Limited Slip now.:lala: :lala:
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Originally posted by Morley
Hmmm, positrac IS special and lets see...third gen F body site...sounds like GM to me...sooooooo its a Posi.:lala: :lala: :lala: :lala:
Hmmm, positrac IS special and lets see...third gen F body site...sounds like GM to me...sooooooo its a Posi.:lala: :lala: :lala: :lala:
THIRDGEN f body site
hence gm wasn't using that name as others have pointed out since BEFORE the thirdgen came out
also even though this is a GM website what if someone installed an aftermarket system would it still be a posi?
no
posi is an old outdated name
no need for it anymore
also what makes posi so much more special then a LSD?
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Originally posted by rx7speed
also what makes posi so much more special then a LSD?
also what makes posi so much more special then a LSD?
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You guys forgot the Mopar "Sure-Grip"
Yea, a posi and limitted slip are the same...
"limitted slip" is just the technical term, whereas "posi" is GM's catchy brand name for it.
Yea, a posi and limitted slip are the same...
"limitted slip" is just the technical term, whereas "posi" is GM's catchy brand name for it.
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Re: What's the difference between Limited Slip and Posi?
There are three types of rear ends (that I know of)...
The single track or open end - where one wheel and one wheel only, turns. How lame is that.
The common slip or limited slip style diff that puts power to both wheels, but allows for that power to vary from side to side most commonly used in turning. It eliminates one of the tires from chirping or hopping in a turn.
Then there is what I call the True Positive Traction Diff. Not to be confused with the "posi-track" used by (GM) or "trac-lok” use by (Ford). This diff does not belong on the street. It is for race cars . It has no side to side slip. The gears are set, no clutches. And if the input turns "x" times both wheels turn "y" times.
The single track or open end - where one wheel and one wheel only, turns. How lame is that.
The common slip or limited slip style diff that puts power to both wheels, but allows for that power to vary from side to side most commonly used in turning. It eliminates one of the tires from chirping or hopping in a turn.
Then there is what I call the True Positive Traction Diff. Not to be confused with the "posi-track" used by (GM) or "trac-lok” use by (Ford). This diff does not belong on the street. It is for race cars . It has no side to side slip. The gears are set, no clutches. And if the input turns "x" times both wheels turn "y" times.
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Re: What's the difference between Limited Slip and Posi?
Here’s the difference, correct me if I’m wrong.
Posi- positive locking differential. Like (lock right). Actual physical meshing of metal pieces, using spider gears that are spring loaded. Which will override in turns and click to allow wheel speed difference, and fully lock and mesh on straight aways allowing full power to both wheels.
Lsd- limited slip differential. uses clutches and medal plates with springs, when wheel speed differs, spider gears will override and springs will expand allowing clutches to not rub on one another to smoothen out the power from one wheel to the other. When on straight away, springs will shut, and clutches lock with metal plates allowing power to both wheels. kinda like the clutch and pressure plate in a trani. that’s what 8.8 traction locks are.
there’s also worm gear set ups like the true trac, and wave trac. which are like Lsd, but uses worm gears to do the same thing.
Posi- positive locking differential. Like (lock right). Actual physical meshing of metal pieces, using spider gears that are spring loaded. Which will override in turns and click to allow wheel speed difference, and fully lock and mesh on straight aways allowing full power to both wheels.
Lsd- limited slip differential. uses clutches and medal plates with springs, when wheel speed differs, spider gears will override and springs will expand allowing clutches to not rub on one another to smoothen out the power from one wheel to the other. When on straight away, springs will shut, and clutches lock with metal plates allowing power to both wheels. kinda like the clutch and pressure plate in a trani. that’s what 8.8 traction locks are.
there’s also worm gear set ups like the true trac, and wave trac. which are like Lsd, but uses worm gears to do the same thing.
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Re: What's the difference between Limited Slip and Posi?
Here’s the difference, correct me if I’m wrong.
Posi- positive locking differential. Like (lock right). Actual physical meshing of metal pieces, using spider gears that are spring loaded. Which will override in turns and click to allow wheel speed difference, and fully lock and mesh on straight aways allowing full power to both wheels.
Lsd- limited slip differential. uses clutches and medal plates with springs, when wheel speed differs, spider gears will override and springs will expand allowing clutches to not rub on one another to smoothen out the power from one wheel to the other. When on straight away, springs will shut, and clutches lock with metal plates allowing power to both wheels. kinda like the clutch and pressure plate in a trani. that’s what 8.8 traction locks are.
there’s also worm gear set ups like the true trac, and wave trac. which are like Lsd, but uses worm gears to do the same thing.
Posi- positive locking differential. Like (lock right). Actual physical meshing of metal pieces, using spider gears that are spring loaded. Which will override in turns and click to allow wheel speed difference, and fully lock and mesh on straight aways allowing full power to both wheels.
Lsd- limited slip differential. uses clutches and medal plates with springs, when wheel speed differs, spider gears will override and springs will expand allowing clutches to not rub on one another to smoothen out the power from one wheel to the other. When on straight away, springs will shut, and clutches lock with metal plates allowing power to both wheels. kinda like the clutch and pressure plate in a trani. that’s what 8.8 traction locks are.
there’s also worm gear set ups like the true trac, and wave trac. which are like Lsd, but uses worm gears to do the same thing.
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Re: What's the difference between Limited Slip and Posi?
your wrong, they are not variations, there are no clutchpacks in a posi rear, posi rears have spider gears that do not slip , they cant, its impossible. they a meshed together like the wheels in a can opener. Limited slips have ctutches that slip back and forth to each wheel, hence the name (limited slip).
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Re: What's the difference between Limited Slip and Posi?
Posi- positive locking differential. Like (lock right). Actual physical meshing of metal pieces, using spider gears that are spring loaded. Which will override in turns and click to allow wheel speed difference, and fully lock and mesh on straight aways allowing full power to both wheels.
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Re: What's the difference between Limited Slip and Posi?
There are several different methods of creating a limited-slip differential. You have cone carriers (9-bolt), clutch pack setups (10-bolts), Zexel Torsen setups (10-bolts), etc etc etc.
They're all limited slip differential carriers. If they were all around in 1970, GM would have probably called every one a "posi", but marketing jargon for this stuff has fallen out of sway, so they just call them what they are these days - limited slip differentials.
They're all limited slip differential carriers. If they were all around in 1970, GM would have probably called every one a "posi", but marketing jargon for this stuff has fallen out of sway, so they just call them what they are these days - limited slip differentials.
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Re: What's the difference between Limited Slip and Posi?
They are the same thing. There is no difference. They do the same thing, work the same way, and have the same effect. They are 2 different brand names for the identical same parts, down to the very part number in some instances. "PosiTraction" was simply GM's trademark for their limited slip rear ends in the 60s.
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Re: What's the difference between Limited Slip and Posi?
Old thread, yes, but still relevant, believe it or not. I just had the same argument with a friend of mine a few days ago. He thinks that "Positraction" and limited-slip are 2 different things. He's clueless. By the way, Positraction is not a "GM" term. It's a Chevy term. Buick, Olds, Pontiac, and Cadillac had their own brand names for the limited-slip differential (all GM products). Ford, Chrysler, and AMC also had their brand names for it. I think that nowadays, most manufacturers just refer to it as limited-slip...
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