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Old 04-14-2003 | 06:00 PM
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My Problem With Holley StealthRam

I got my holley stealthram today and decided to see how it looked on the car, so I set it up there and...it doesn't line up

I can't push it far enough back. there's some sort of sensor attached to the block right behind the intake. if looking at the engine from the front, it is just to the right of the distributor.

I can't find the cable to connect my camera to the computer, so I can't get a picture, but, I did find a picture of an intake that will demonstrate where I'm talking about. The part circled in yellow is where it's rubbing. Is there something I can do besides grinding it out a little? The opening on the stealthram is too narrow, if I make it look like this one, it should work, will it still seal right, though? Looking for options before I start grinding my brand new intake. Thanks.

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Old 04-14-2003 | 06:11 PM
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Thats the oil pressure sending unit. You can easily convert to a later style version of the unit and ditch the canister looking thing. Go to the parts store and ask for a sending unit for a 91 TPI car. You'll also need the 3 pin connector, yours is currently a 2 pin. You may need to get the connector from the dealer, not sure though. Splice the wire that went to the canister on the block to the middle wire of the 3 pin. Match up the other two wire to the appropriate color and you should be good to go.
Old 04-14-2003 | 07:21 PM
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Isn't it also possible to get a pipe fitting that will allow you to relocate the sending unit at a different angle or something?
Old 04-14-2003 | 07:23 PM
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I bet you could widen that gap some to with a die grinder. Maybe you don't want to take that approach though. Just a thought...
Old 04-14-2003 | 08:26 PM
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If it was me, I'd look for some pipe fittings at Home Depot or wherever, to move that sending unit out of the way.
Old 04-14-2003 | 08:27 PM
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my oil pressure gauge wasn't working when I took the engine out to rebuild, so I was thinking of eventually getting an aftermarket gauge. Is there any type of gauge kit that I could get? with the oil pressure sending unit, oil pressure gauge, and the wire that connects the two. looking to spend under $100 on it, though. Thanks.

Ryan

P.S. my oil pressure sending unit is canister thing, but looks like it's only 1 prong, it only has 1 metal tab on the canister, and only 1 wire connecting to it we have a thought that this might originally be a TBI engine, as it has TBI swirl port heads on it. maybe they have a different sender? it is a roller block, though.
Old 04-14-2003 | 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by CamaroFreak87
my oil pressure gauge wasn't working when I took the engine out to rebuild, so I was thinking of eventually getting an aftermarket gauge. Is there any type of gauge kit that I could get? with the oil pressure sending unit, oil pressure gauge, and the wire that connects the two. looking to spend under $100 on it, though. Thanks.

Ryan

P.S. my oil pressure sending unit is canister thing, but looks like it's only 1 prong, it only has 1 metal tab on the canister, and only 1 wire connecting to it we have a thought that this might originally be a TBI engine, as it has TBI swirl port heads on it. maybe they have a different sender? it is a roller block, though.
There's lots of aftermarket guages. Just look on www.jegs.com or www.summitracing.com. I got the 2 1/16 inch Sport Comp electric gauge from AutoMeter. It was $40. There's more expensive ones, too, but you don't need to go crazy.
Old 04-14-2003 | 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by CamaroFreak87
my oil pressure gauge wasn't working when I took the engine out to rebuild, so I was thinking of eventually getting an aftermarket gauge. Is there any type of gauge kit that I could get? with the oil pressure sending unit, oil pressure gauge, and the wire that connects the two. looking to spend under $100 on it, though. Thanks.


I have an Autometer Pro-Comp mechanical guage. Don't remember how much it was but it is less than $100. Its the 2 5/8" liquid filled guage. Works well, looks great.
Old 04-14-2003 | 10:05 PM
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My question is, do they come with the oil pressure sending unit, and the wire to connect the gauge to the oil pressure sending unit?
Old 04-14-2003 | 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by CamaroFreak87
My question is, do they come with the oil pressure sending unit, and the wire to connect the gauge to the oil pressure sending unit?
Absolutely do.
Old 04-14-2003 | 11:43 PM
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Originally posted by irocbsa
Thats the oil pressure sending unit. You can easily convert to a later style version of the unit and ditch the canister looking thing. Go to the parts store and ask for a sending unit for a 91 TPI car. You'll also need the 3 pin connector, yours is currently a 2 pin. You may need to get the connector from the dealer, not sure though. Splice the wire that went to the canister on the block to the middle wire of the 3 pin. Match up the other two wire to the appropriate color and you should be good to go.
Has anybody tried that ...I didn't think that sender was compatable with the early guages.
Old 04-15-2003 | 02:03 AM
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My car has a simple double threaded 1/4 inch pipe with a 90 degree adapter screwed into one end. Uses the stock sending unit, and it clears the intake. I only added the Autometer gage to mine, cause the stock one is stuck past 60 PSI. lol
Old 04-15-2003 | 03:58 AM
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Yeah I got a 90 degree elbow and little section of pipe to relocate it slightly to work on my 87Z's engine. Performer RPM was in conflict with it too...
Old 04-15-2003 | 07:50 AM
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for some reason, i just don't trust electronic gauges, mechanical all the way:rockon:
Old 04-15-2003 | 08:11 AM
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The factory setup... it interferes with stock intakes too.
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Old 04-15-2003 | 10:00 AM
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I ordered a new Auto Meter 2 5/8" pro-comp electronic gauge. the pro-comp and sport-comp electronic gauges were the same price, and I liked how the pro-comp had a wider distance between 0 and 100. also bought a 2 gauge panel to mount under my vents. they didn't have a 2 5/8" A-Pillar pod, and didn't have 2 1/16" pro-comp gauges which was what I wanted...a-pillar pod and pro-comp gauges. oh well also got the water neck that Chevy High Performance used so I can use an easy-to find upper radiator hose (85 carbed camaro hose).

It's a good thing that income tax return came
Old 04-15-2003 | 11:15 AM
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I mounted my Pro-Comps under the center air vents too. I used the triple hole panel and it looks good. I angled mine a bit and suggest you do as well, makes the visibility much better.
Old 04-16-2003 | 12:44 AM
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i am fixing to order a full pillar triple guage pod from autometer. i am going to put a sport-comp oil pressure and water temp in the top two and then in the bottom i will be putting a cyberdyne digital speedo. i put a tranny in my car from a 91z and the cable drive won't match up and i would much rather have the cool digital gauge then mess with a cable drive. the cyberdyne is also calibratable (is that a word?) so that i can run different gear/tire sizes.
Old 04-16-2003 | 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by mw66nova
calibratable (is that a word?)

No, it is not a word. You would just say it can be calibrated.

It is a cool idea though to use the triple pods and put a digital speedo in there. Right on!!
Old 04-18-2003 | 10:15 PM
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BAH!

I got my autometer gauge today. took my old sending unit off, put the new one on and...it hits worse than before! bleh. I guess I should have gotten the mechanical one instead of the electrical one. I'm really kicking myself for that now. they had a "may not be actual item in photograph" under the electrical one in summit's online catalog, so it's a short sweep gauge. double bummer. Anyways, I said screw it, and ground down the intake. the autometer sender unit also hits on something else. I ground that off to, as it didn't seem important fits good now

word to wise. get the mechanical gauge if you got a Holley StealthRam.
Old 04-18-2003 | 10:55 PM
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I have a fitting screwed into that NPT port on the rear of the block and it feed oil to tmy mechanical oil pressure gauge mounted inmy cowl. My factory sending unit is mounted above the oil filter so it wasnt bad for me. Dont yo uhate it when you have to start grinding stuff to get other things to fit right. nice bolt on huh.
Old 04-19-2003 | 11:04 AM
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After replacing the oil pressure sending unit, buying bolt adapters for late model heads, and grinding down the intake in 2 spots, it bolts right on!

even though it's all that, I still think it'll be worth it
your car looks awesome man. I have a set of those wheels in silver in my garage with no rubber right now
Old 04-19-2003 | 05:30 PM
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Hey Bottled,

Those are ZR-1 wheels right? They look good chromed.
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