High mileage engine treatment??
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Car: '87 IROC-Z
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High mileage engine treatment??
Ok I have a high mileage LG4 and I don't have money to drop in a 350 yet, so I was wondering is there anything I can do to make the 305 performe better? I saw this stuff at wal-mart/autozone that you add to the oil to help restore compression and smooth out the cylinder walls and I was wondering if anyone has ever used stuff like this and is it worth it? (don't remember the name of it).
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Re: High mileage engine treatment??
Originally posted by Ghigman3
Ok I have a high mileage LG4 and I don't have money to drop in a 350 yet, so I was wondering is there anything I can do to make the 305 performe better?
Ok I have a high mileage LG4 and I don't have money to drop in a 350 yet, so I was wondering is there anything I can do to make the 305 performe better?
I saw this stuff at wal-mart/autozone that you add to the oil to help restore compression and smooth out the cylinder walls and I was wondering if anyone has ever used stuff like this and is it worth it? (don't remember the name of it).
The only thing that make an engine run smoother is a tune up or repairing something that's broke.
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Re: High mileage engine treatment??
Originally posted by Ghigman3
Ok I have a high mileage LG4 and I don't have money to drop in a 350 yet, so I was wondering is there anything I can do to make the 305 performe better?
Ok I have a high mileage LG4 and I don't have money to drop in a 350 yet, so I was wondering is there anything I can do to make the 305 performe better?
Originally posted by Ghigman3
I saw this stuff at wal-mart/autozone that you add to the oil to help restore compression and smooth out the cylinder walls and I was wondering if anyone has ever used stuff like this and is it worth it? (don't remember the name of it).
I saw this stuff at wal-mart/autozone that you add to the oil to help restore compression and smooth out the cylinder walls and I was wondering if anyone has ever used stuff like this and is it worth it? (don't remember the name of it).
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Synthetic motor oil will help.
Mobil 1
I had an LG4 in a cutlass with not alot of miles but low oil presurre at idle, so I put in synthetic .... (didn;t feel like rebuilding), ran smooth didn't burn as much oil as before and ust generally ran better.
Mobil 1
I had an LG4 in a cutlass with not alot of miles but low oil presurre at idle, so I put in synthetic .... (didn;t feel like rebuilding), ran smooth didn't burn as much oil as before and ust generally ran better.
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To present it bluntly, Stay the F*CK away from additives for your fuel, oil, transmission, etc.
The best thing you can put in your engine is a good synthetic lubricant, like Amsoil or Mobil 1. Then change it regularly. If that doesn't get the maximum life and power from your engine, nothing else will. The only way you could reduce internal friction more would be to install roller bearings on the crank, rods, and camshaft (it's been done), but then you'd really want to use synthetics for the extreme pressure protection.
The best thing you can put in your engine is a good synthetic lubricant, like Amsoil or Mobil 1. Then change it regularly. If that doesn't get the maximum life and power from your engine, nothing else will. The only way you could reduce internal friction more would be to install roller bearings on the crank, rods, and camshaft (it's been done), but then you'd really want to use synthetics for the extreme pressure protection.
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Ok sorry for being so general. didn't mean too. I mean high mileage as in over 100,000 miles.
Is it ok to switch to synthetic oil to an engine that has used regular oil in it?
or
would it be better to get the synthetic/ragular blend oil?
also while I'm at it. If I got new exhuast for the car would it bolt up to a 350 when I make the switch? And how much is it worth getting headers?
Is it ok to switch to synthetic oil to an engine that has used regular oil in it?
or
would it be better to get the synthetic/ragular blend oil?
also while I'm at it. If I got new exhuast for the car would it bolt up to a 350 when I make the switch? And how much is it worth getting headers?
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I switched my LG4 over to AMSOIL at 123,400 miles. It needed valve stem seal replacement to get oil consumption down, but that's typical with SBC's that have had petroleum oil in them all their life.
A story about synthetic oil and no oil pressure:
Year: 1990
Vehicle: 1980 Chevrolet Citation, 2.8l V6
Mileage: 65k at time of conversion to AMSOIL in 1983. Had turned over 150k on the drive home the day before this story.
What happened: Went out to start the car to go to work. Started to back out of the driveway and heard a loud snapping sound. Put the car in park, got out to see if I had run over a tree branch or something (left engine running). Didn't see anything. Pulled out of driveway (a steep up-hill climb), headed down the street. Pulled out my cordless razor and did my normal "multi-processing" shave-while-you-drive-to-work. ~5 minutes later (3.5 miles of stop & go), turned off the shaver, heard the lifters rattling. Looked at the oil pressure gage, said "zero". Pulled over quick, shut it off, pulled dipstick, at the full mark. Had the car hauled home. Pulled oil pan, discovered the oil pump had committed suicide (idler gear shaft is open to top of the housing, shaft had worked up and finally got smacked by crank counterweight coming by, which knocked off half the pump housing) - this was the snapping sound I had heard. Pump drive shaft to distributor sheared off. Pulled off the #1 rod bearing cap, it still had a film of oil on it. Plastigaged that cap and the #1 main cap (the farthest bearings from the oil source), both were still in spec. Put on new pump & drive shaft, ran the oil through a paint funnel/filter and put it back in the engine. Continued to drive the car until late 1994 when I gave it to my brother, who finally quit driving it in 1999 as the body fell off around the engine. Estimated mileage (speedo quit at 225k) was 275k. Still ran fine.
That's my story. I still have the pump idler gear shaft on my chest of drawers.
A story about synthetic oil and no oil pressure:
Year: 1990
Vehicle: 1980 Chevrolet Citation, 2.8l V6
Mileage: 65k at time of conversion to AMSOIL in 1983. Had turned over 150k on the drive home the day before this story.
What happened: Went out to start the car to go to work. Started to back out of the driveway and heard a loud snapping sound. Put the car in park, got out to see if I had run over a tree branch or something (left engine running). Didn't see anything. Pulled out of driveway (a steep up-hill climb), headed down the street. Pulled out my cordless razor and did my normal "multi-processing" shave-while-you-drive-to-work. ~5 minutes later (3.5 miles of stop & go), turned off the shaver, heard the lifters rattling. Looked at the oil pressure gage, said "zero". Pulled over quick, shut it off, pulled dipstick, at the full mark. Had the car hauled home. Pulled oil pan, discovered the oil pump had committed suicide (idler gear shaft is open to top of the housing, shaft had worked up and finally got smacked by crank counterweight coming by, which knocked off half the pump housing) - this was the snapping sound I had heard. Pump drive shaft to distributor sheared off. Pulled off the #1 rod bearing cap, it still had a film of oil on it. Plastigaged that cap and the #1 main cap (the farthest bearings from the oil source), both were still in spec. Put on new pump & drive shaft, ran the oil through a paint funnel/filter and put it back in the engine. Continued to drive the car until late 1994 when I gave it to my brother, who finally quit driving it in 1999 as the body fell off around the engine. Estimated mileage (speedo quit at 225k) was 275k. Still ran fine.
That's my story. I still have the pump idler gear shaft on my chest of drawers.
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There is also Restore and STP.
The solution to a worn out engine (if it really is) is a rebuild. I used Restore for a while, because it was the thickest stuff I could find aside of gear oil... and I wasnt sure that stuff would work right. Dropped my oil usage considerably, and lasted until I had the money for the rebuild. You cant fix an engine with magic glue though... best you can do is properly maintain it, and if its already beyond help, replace it.
The solution to a worn out engine (if it really is) is a rebuild. I used Restore for a while, because it was the thickest stuff I could find aside of gear oil... and I wasnt sure that stuff would work right. Dropped my oil usage considerably, and lasted until I had the money for the rebuild. You cant fix an engine with magic glue though... best you can do is properly maintain it, and if its already beyond help, replace it.
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my g/f used restore in her engine, we drained old oil, put in new oil and restore, 100 miles later there goes her engine, she was driving around w/ no pressure, i, from what i know would not use that stuff.. just do regular and frequent oil changes, maybe use stp flush, and stp additives, i've never had a problem with stp b4
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