trace

http://www.gmarabia.com/chevrolet_ca...caprice_ss.htm

damn the EPA!

AJ_92RS

Why do you say that? I'm confused.

It's a RWD car with a 325 HP V8...... and that's a bad thing? What does the EPA have to do with it?

NTChrist

It's not sold in North America.

RJR99SS

wow, that looks promising. Chevy cars of late have been rather sorry pieces of work. I always love it when an older caprice or impala comes in to work, of course the people who drive them have no idea how nice of cars they are.

A 96 impala ss came in a while ago, bunch of bumper stickers on it, both bumpers cracked, paint oxidizing, only 50k miles on it, oil looked like it had never been changed. Well you get my point, i got a few days work out of it though...

Anyway, a nice big rear wheel drive sedan is just what chevy needs!

ontogenesis

only thing i can think of is thats gm of arabia, so maybe it's not available like that in the us? thats all i can think off, and it took some thinkin to pull that out of my ***.

AJ_92RS

Show me where it says the EPA has anything to do with that because I don't see it.

RJR99SS

well...i think it's much more a of a marketing decision not to have it in the us. I mean if someone here wants a big sporty sedan they just buy a lexus right? It just may not fit chevy's image anymore, which is sad beyond belief.

The fact of the matter here is that 90% of automobile consumers wouldnt know a "good" car if their life depended on it. I mean, just look at what everyone drives, and how they treat it.

Gm is much more interested in pushing their SSr thing-a-ma-jig.

NTChrist

WELL! You must've missed it! Because, on the GMArabia site, there was a press release saying "Damn the EPA!" Hmmm, how'd that one get past the web editors?!?


Of course, the EPA wasn't mentioned. BUT, that doesn't change the fact that; "It's not sold in North America."

No hard feelings, just don't be a dick about what other people say.

OldsmobileGuy

where is it sold

JPrevost

I personally like the Lumina SS more. Not a huge fan of the front end but the rest of the car is top notch. The interior is nice and having the same LS1 as the Caprice SS while being lighter must account for some added performance. Not to mention it's probably cheaper. Problem is power to weight ratio and insurance. Sell that over here in the US and insurance will cost MORE than what your payments would be for it .
Hey OldsmobileGuy, wake up, it's in just about every post. Arabia

trace

sorry for obscure EPA reference. IMHO it's not sold here due to the popularity of trucks/SUVs, how that relates to the EPA's fleet mileage requirements, and probably a perceived lack of demand.

Vader

That's rather odd. The window sticker in my '96 listed the EPA estimated mileage at 17/27. the little POS Mazda 6 V-6 "sport sedan" only gets an EPA estimated 27 highway mileage, and I can fit one of those in my trunk. Where's the "high tech" at now?

No bumper stickers here:

Vader

BTW - Can you tell which one makes 35 RWHP more than the newer Caprice SS just by looking? (And that's through cast iron exhaust manifolds.)

trace

i'm jealous. what do you pay for insurance on those beauties? i've been toying with the idea of converting a Caprice into an SS. i'd buy the real thing, but need a daily driver for 100+ mi/day.

AJ_92RS

Why are you calling me a dick? All I did was ask a question?? You need to watch your mouth and quit making assumtions. :nono: It was just a question.

And I'm glad you don't have any hard feelings. I'll sleep better tonight.

Anyway..... back to the topic.

The market is the reason they stopped production of the Caprice. They were selling the heck out of trucks, and not many Caprices. Since the Caprice assembly plant had all the equipment to handle full frame trucks, they kicked the Caprices to the curb.

mystikkal_69

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hmmm just a guess but VADER 18? :sillylol:

Dirty Rob

Hey dude, it is cause of the EPA, i live in the middle east, and am still considering a Lumina SS, but if i get one i cant get it shipped back to the states, because it lacks EPA approval, just to get the thing inspected (by the EPA for import reasons) costs 3g's. no way in hell is it worth it. pulling the entire LS1 drivetrain and dropping it into the camaro however, im thinkin about that.

Vader

C'mon, guys. A little consideration might be a good thing. Remember that whatever you type doesn't have the inflection that you may have intended to convey, so choose your words a little more carefully please.

I'd normally do this through PM or email, but you started it in the open, so I'll end it here. Don't make me use The Force. It's no fun having to suspend members that actually have something good to offer the site.

In other words, NTChrist, be a little more careful about what you write. And AJ_92, I can understand your taking offense to name-calling, but I doubt that he meant it as more than a little fun.

In case I'm wrong, everyone has been cautioned...

AJ_92RS

The poster made it sound like Chevy/GM won't make it here because the EPA won't let them. I think it's because Chevy/GM doesn't want to make it here. As most of the articles on the website state, the Caprices sold better to the Camel Cruisers than to Americans.

I feel your pain to. It would be nice if our government wasn't full of tree huggers.

EPA (Enthusiasts of Performance Abolishment)

SSC

I like the Caprice's worked on a 94 with an LT1 engine in it very nice very fast.


"Where's the "high tech" at now?"

Thats what m wanting to know, forget which year 48-55ish Nash Metropolitian got near 55 MPG. The old 79 Pinto my Mom had got near 38 MPG.

trace

i think i made my <FONT SIZE=4><B>OPINION</B></FONT> clear with above statement. sheesh, forget it. everyone lighten up.

Dirty Rob

Yup, so im forced to take advantage of the arab marketing, and test drive as many of them as possible while im over here.

AJ_92RS

OH.....OK Yo comprendo señor.

You're damning the EPA for allowing our gas guzzlin' SUVs to make way by not having to meet certain criteria!!!!!

You are absolutely correct. As I said before, ".....if our government wasn't full of tree huggers." Sickening isn't it?

See... I'm not as think as you dumb I am.

Momar

My thoughts exactly. Oh, and Holden which I believe is GM's austrailian branch also has some nice cars that we dont get to see here.

Ben

BadSS

The word from one of the GM executives was why give "us" a V8 car when "we're" content in buying the six cylinder sedans.

Uhh,,, cause we can't get a V8? And are we???? Actually he may be right. Most people I know don't care about the power like most of us on the board. I still don't understand GM abandoning the city and state governments (police). Most seem to still be buying the Crown Vic.

Anyway, the new GTO (LS1 RWD 6-speed) is slated for release late this year. If it sells, then we might see the return of the V8 in a few cars. I think they're doing R&D for an LS1 FWD in the current Impalas, maybe there is hope for "us" yet.

primer84z

sorry to interrupt the arguement, but unless they miss printed,or i miss read, the information for power train says this bad boy makes




468lb/ft of TORQUE



CHRIST THAT CAR IS GONNA MOVE FOR A BIG BODY.

Momar

I saw that too and thought the same thing, but I dont think that the torque is rated in ft lbs. Its rated in Nm.

Ben

JPrevost

A firm, Nm is always higher than lb/ft

spartyon

kinda changing subjects in this topic. i havent seen it yet but my dad said the new ford 427 is supposed to be making round 5** hp. supposedly comming out in 04-05? i heard it looks crappy though. love the merc marauder tho, " we dont care what color u want as long as its black!" great marketing technique, i love it

racerx004

Vader, those cars are beautiful!!!!!!!!
I love the vanity plates.
I would love to get my hands on an impalla ss.
Chevy definitly did it right when they introduced that car.
It's too bad they didn't keep it up.

IROCZTWENTYGR8

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B-Bodies are cool definetly.

Nice cars Vader, would the 1 that has your UserName be the fast 1?!

Vader

Wow. What took me thre paragraphs to spit out was summed up in just one phrase...

Yes, the original 427 Ford was a very good engine. Too bad for them it was only produced for four years and died in '67.

There's still the Ramjet 502 for anyone that wants real V-8 thunder. Or the 535 marine/industrial engine, in pure silicon aluminum, no less.

Homer

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Vader,
I'm sure it's been posted elsewhere, but....what the hell do you do for a living? Two Impalas? Cause whatever it is that you do, I wish I had picked it for my life's work.

NTChrist

Mmmmmy guess is......

Some sort of engineer!!! Am I right!?! Ooo, baby.

Something to do with bolts/fasteners?

breathment

iv always wondered that. and to know what all cars he does have..