First of all wanted to say hello, it's been a few years since I have posted here, but for any old timer that remembers me, HELLO!

I also want to apologize for the length of the message, it's a long story and I need help!

Approximately a year ago, I began to smell gasoline for 2-3 days (Depending on how many miles I drove) after filling the car up. I had some other issues with the car and had not gotten around to having a mechanic do a pressure test on it. About 6 months ago I ran across a recall that was reported by GM in 1994.

Defect Summary:
THE FUEL FILLER NECK SOLDER JOINT CAN DEVELOP CRACKS OR PIN HOLE LEAKS, WHICH DOES NOT COMPLY WITH FMVSS NO. 301, "FUEL SYSTEM INTEGRITY." THE CRACKS AND HOLES CAN ALLOW FUEL VAPOR AND FUEL LEAKAGE.

This effected all Camaros and Firebirds from 1991-1992, effecting a total of 232,988 vehicles.

I took my car in to a local Chevrolet dealership to have it looked at. They told me that I do have a gas leak and it is in the filler neck, which requires the entire gas tank to be replaced. The service writer proceeds to tell me that there was NO recall on my car for the gas tank. I found out from the mechanic that diagnosed the gas leak, that there was IN FACT a recall on my car, but it was cancelled.

I call Chevrolets customer service that afternoon; they can’t even find a recall on the gas tank for ANY Camaro. They promise a call back the following business day. After two business days pass, I call them, wondering what is going on. I got an EXTREMELY rude lady telling me there was no recall on my car, THEN she tells me how recalls work and that their random, yadda yadda. Not even letting me talk. So when I finally told her to look up the recall by the number, she “said” she looked it up and couldn’t find it, but repeats that there are no recalls on my car….period.

The recall is listed on the NHTSA website (Campaign ID #: 94V077000) and listed on ALL Data (TSB#: 92C36). I pulled a carfax report; they don’t have GM recall information. I cannot find a single place where I can type in my Vin and get the recall info. NHTSA can’t even give me that information.

So I am driving around with a leaky gas tank. Anybody have any suggestions on what to do?

Thank you VERY MUCH in advanced

Aimee
92’ (beefy?) 3.1 RS Convertible

 

it had TWO recalls actually, the gas tank filler neck AND the transmission cable going from the automatic shifter to the tranny, .....possible problems? it breaking and you NOT knowing your car is still in drive when you put it into park!. LAW SUIT for GM ....id seriously screw gm over if i were you and had the money to get a lawyer.....thats plain bs ......

 

try this

<a href="http://www.consumerreports.org/main/detailv2.jsp?CONTENT%3C%3Ecnt_id=13703&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=10895&bmUID=1019737115770">consumer reports</p>

<a href="http://www.autosafety.org/article.php?scid=46&modelid=29&submit=Get+Consumer+Information+Package">autosaftey</a></p>

 

The above is very informative. I believe I have many of these ailments with my 91 TA. My question is what does the number at the end mean ? example :


Water pump/seal leaks 1987-88 (88-265-6B).


What does (88-265-6B) mean ? Is that a recall number ? I have had very similiar results as aimeesc has in his post regarding comments for the dealership.

Does anybody have any ideas on how to proceed to get this problems fixed ?

Thanks for your info.

 

Don't know if AutoSafety can be trusted. This is a quote from the site listed above:

"The 1987-92's have GM's poorly designed, door mounted "automatic belt system" that may not prevent occupant ejection if a door opens in a crash."

I've never seen a door mounted seat/shoulder belt on an f-body. And would not have bought one if it did.

RBob.

 

i was in a similar situation a few months ago when i took my car in for the defective seat belt buckle recall. the dealer couldn't find any recall info with my vin so i called gm customer service, they couldnt find any info either but i gave them the campaign number and the lady ran it through the archive department and was able to find the campaign info. a week later i had new buckles. everyone i talked to at customer service was very helpful and very friendly. so if the customer service people are being rude request to speak to a supervisor and tell them the story. i would imagine that the leaking tank is a 'safety recall' in which case it does not expire, which is why i was able to get my buckles replaced ten years after the campaign was issued.

 

Dealerships can run the vin to check on whether recalls have been done to your car. If you know of a recall and your dealership won't help...go to a different dealership.
I have a Pontiac mechanic friend who does my stuff. It was pretty cool to get a new shift cable 10 years after the car was built for free.

 

when the dealer ran my vin nothing showed up, that's why i had to go through customer service

 

Hmmm. I had a similar problem with a "recall" on the seatbelts in my beretta. They periodically lock up. 3 stealerships told me there was no recall. Maybe i'll try the cust service number.

 

here's my post about getting my buckles fixed: https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=123251

 

Whoa, I didn't know there was a recall on that cable from the shifter to the tranny, that same cable just busted on me a few months ago and I replaced it. I could see it was really poorly designed when I put the new one in. How did they fix it, because the replacement cable I got was exactly the same as the orig. and I wouldn't be surprised if it breaks again.

 

Just wanted to say thanks to all of you that responded. I called back customer service today and spoke with the origional guy I placed the question with. He said that he did find the recall and it was on a per vin basis. My car was not included in that recall list. Here is their story:

GM received various shipments of gastanks on the manufacturing line. Some of the shipments (not all) were poorly made gas tanks. They know which shipments had these gastanks, so they can narrow it down, by vin, which cars were on the manufacturing line during these poorly made gas tank installs. Only thing that seems strange to me is that manufacture recall end date was 8/92, my car's man date was 4/92, I guess my car was lucky enough to have a good shippment?



So looks like I have two options.

1) Spend $500 at my friends shop.
or
2) Spend $700 at the dealership crossing my fingers that by tearing it out, I can whine enough where they can show me if it was something due to wear and tear or if it was a faulty tank. If it was wear and tear, I eat $200 more than if I took it to my friends shop.

So whoa is me. I spend time debating on what to do. Maybe someday I will get to put money in mods instead of maintenance.

Thanks again!!

 

have you considered doing the work yourself? it wouldn't be too hard. you have to disconnect your brakes and driveshaft to drop the axle and then remove the exhaust to get at the tank straps. i havent done it so i dont know all the intricacies but do a search or post on the topic.

 

I have thought about doing this myself a little bit. But currently I don't have a garage to do this in. It would have to be done outside in the driveway, which is sloped. Being as this car is my everyday driver, it would have to be done over a weekends time. I haven't looked in the repair manual to see if they have instructions on install. I think you make a good point though, maybe I should at least consider it, and see what I can come up with.

Thanks,
Aimee

 

BTW, teh rear doesnt necessarilyu have to be droped, just the exaust. Makes your life easier if you choose to do it yourself.

 

just do what i do, ask 100 people on here, grab some sockets, wrenches, jack stands, and have at it

 

Here's the list of every Technical Bulletin listed on GM's Service Information program: ( I have seen the filler neck recall listed on here and now it's gone. It's been removed...i don't know why, but it's completely erased. Only thing I can think of is that GM might cancel a recall after ~10 years. *shrug*)

1992 Chevrolet/Geo Camaro - Bulletins - Technical

Select a document to view:

#33-12-26 RETROFITTING R-12 VEHICLES TO R-134A (INFORMATIONAL) - (12/22/1993)

#43-10-48 REV. TO ADHESIVE CAULKING KIT, NEW PRIMERS & PART NUMBERS - (10/25/1994)

#31-90-03 SUPPLEMENTAL INFLATABLE RESTRAINT (SIR) PASSENGER SIDE - (10/18/1993)

#43-10-53 T-TOP ROOF HARD COAT DELAMINATION - (01/05/1995)

#43-50-09 FRONT BRAKE PULSATION - 'NEW' DIAGNOSIS - (11/23/1994)

#03-32-06 REDUCED PWR STEERING ASSIST AT LOW AMBIENT TEMPERATURES - (04/08/1994)

#23-10-54 SERV. PROCEDURE FOR ID/REPAIR OF PAINT COLORCOAT DELAMIN. - (05/31/1995)

#91-188-6E ECM, PCM & BCM UNIT EXCHANGE PROGRAM POLICIES - (01/29/1991)

#91-217-6E INFO ON MULTEC FUEL INJECTORS DO NOT CLEAN MULTEC INJECTORS - (02/15/1991)

#91-349-9J DISPOSAL OF LIVE (UNDEPLOYED) SIR INFLATOR MODULES - (06/20/1991)

#92-01-10 DOOR EDGE PROTECTOR REMOVAL (ASSY. PLANT INSTALLED) - (08/01/1991)

#92-05-8A SERVICE GUILD: DETECTING ELECT INTERMITTENTS DIAGNOSTIC - (08/09/1991)

#92-107-8A CRUISE CONTROL DROPOUT (FAILS TO SET OR RESUME) - (02/05/1992)

#92-113-7A (4L60) TRANS PUMP REMOVAL TOOL (ESSENTIAL TOOL FOR REMOVAL) - (02/07/1992)

#92-129-5 PARK BRAKE HAND LEVER SLIPS ON APPLY (REPLACE LEVER ASSY.) - (02/28/1992)

#92-13-9J CAUTIONS REGARDING SIR SYSTEM REPAIRS AND PROCEDURES - (09/10/1991)

#92-162-10 METALLIC BUZZ OR RATTLE NOISE INSTALL CLAMP/REPOSITION PIPE - (04/03/1992)

#92-169-10 DOOR GLASS WONT STAY IN PLACE MANUAL REGULATORS ONLY-REPLACE - (04/09/1992)

#92-18-10 FRONT DOOR GLASS RETAINER ASSY (NEW PARTS USAGE) - (09/16/1991)

#92-185-7A NEW FLUID LEVEL INDICATORS AND NEW FLUID CHECK PROCEDURES - (04/10/1992)

#92-212-10 NEW POLICY FOR CONVERTIBLE TOP BACK WINDOW (INFORMATIONAL) - (05/27/1992)

#92-215-1A A/C LEAK (DIAGNOSIS BULLETIN) ALL MODELS 1992 AND PRIOR - (05/27/1992)

#92-227-6E FUEL PUMP DRIVEABILITY ISSUE DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION - (06/04/1992)

#92-260-10 CONVERTIBLE ENHANCEMENTS NOISE, SEATBELT TRIM, OPERATE - (07/16/1992)

#92-287-9A POOR FM PERFORMANCE W/CDM (RETURN AC DELCO SERV. CTR.) - (08/28/1992)

#92-304-6A OIL LEAKS FROM REAR OF ENGINE (REPLACE PLUG) - (10/02/1992)

#92-31-1D ACCESSORY DRIVE BELT SQUEAL OR CHIRP NOISE, A/C ON, REP. BELT - (10/17/1991)

#92-318-7A HARSH 1-2 UPSHIFT INSTALL SERVICE PACKAGE - (09/15/1992)

#92-340-0A DEALER SERVICE BULLETIN INDEX (INFORMATION) - (12/17/1992)

#92-350-6C HOT WEATHER DRIVEABILITY (INSTALL NEW FUEL SENDER/PUMP) - (04/07/1993)

#92-355-6C LIGHT HAMMER/RATTLE NOISE (REPL. FUEL FEED HOSE ASSY.) - (06/04/1993)

#92-42-7A INTERMIT TRANS DOWNSHIFT/SLIP DIAGNOSIS - (11/07/1991)

#92-77-6B INTERNAL COOLANT LEAKS (SERVICE PROCEDURES) - (01/08/1992)

#92-85-1D MISSING WASHER FOR A/C KITS (BLOCK FITTING SEALING WASHER) - (01/23/1992)

#93-110-7A INFO. ON SHIFT CONTROL CABLE INSTALLATION PROCEDURES - (02/15/1993)

#93-169-3E TIRES SLIPPING ON WHEELS USE PROPER TIRE MOUNTING PROC - (08/01/1993)

#93-20-3E SCUFF/SCRATCH REMOVAL PROCESS ALUM. WHEEL WITH CLEAR COAT - (10/16/1992)

#93-223-7A INFO. ON SERVICING VEHICLE WITH CONTAMINATED TRANS. FLUID - (05/19/1993)

#93-263-3E LEAKING CAST ALUMINUM WHEELS (REPAIR WITH ADHESIVE SEALANT) - (07/01/1993)

#93-29-7A BUZZING NOISE AT IDLE (INSTALL PRESSURE REGULATOR VALVE) - (10/02/1992)

#93-77-4B DIFFERENTIAL PINION SHAFT LOCKING SCREW (INFORMATIONAL) - (01/08/1993)

#92-15A-6A OIL PRESSURE INDICATOR AND GAGE SERVICE - (02/15/1993)

#92-35-1D A/C COMPRESSOR SEALING WASHER USAGE (NEW DESIGN) - (10/11/1991)

#93-32-3E TIRE DAMAGE FROM ASSY PLANTS TIRE REPLACEMENT - (11/01/1992)

#92-117-6E ECM, PCM & BCM UNIT EXCHANGE PROGRAM PROC. AND POLICIES - (02/20/1992)

#93-133-10 BINDING/STICKING LOCK CYLINDER RECOMMENDED LUBRICATIONS - (03/01/1993)

#93-30-9J S.I.R. SYSTEM DIAG. ENERGY RESERVE MODULE EXCHANGE - (10/01/1992)

#92-39A-9 S.I.R. SYSTEM DIAG. ENERGY RESERVE MODULE EXCHANGE - (12/20/1991)

#92-64-10 LOOSE AND/OR WAVY DOOR GLASS BELT SEALING STRIP - (12/20/1991)

#93-35-6D ENG. MISS, HESITATION & ROUGH PIERCED SEC. IGN. COMPONENTS - (10/01/1992)

#91-2-181 CHECKING CLEAR COAT THICKNESS BEFORE & AFTER PAINT FINESSE - (03/12/1991)

#91-6-111 INFO ON MULTEC FUEL INJECTORS DO NOT CLEAN MULTEC INJECTORS - (02/15/1991)

#91-6-119 SERVICE ENGINE SOON LIGHT PROCEDURE/DIAG. REPLACE TPS - (06/17/1991)

#91-74L80-105 SERVICE ENGINE LIGHT (CODE 22) DIAGNOSIS PROCEDURES - (10/31/1991)

#91-74L80E-105 SERVICE ENGINE LIGHT (CODE 22) DIAGNOSIS PROCEDURES - (07/31/1991)

#92-1-103 A/C COMPRESSOR SEALING WASHER USAGE (NEW DESIGN) - (10/11/1991)

#92-1-113 NEW A/C HIGH SIDE PRESSURE SERVICE PORT ASSY. INFORMATION - (04/14/1992)

#92-1-126 INFO BULLETIN: USE OF R4 COMPRESSOR SHAFT NUT ELIMINATE - (08/11/1992)

#92-2-104 DOOR EDGE PROTECTOR REMOVAL (ASSY. PLANT INSTALLED) - (08/01/1991)

#92-2-111 FRONT DOOR GLASS RETAINER ASSY (NEW PARTS USAGE) - (09/16/1991)

#92-2-128 INDUSTRIAL FALLOUT-PAINT DAM. FINESSE TYPE REPAIRS - (11/01/1992)

#92-2-151 LOOSE/WAVY DOOR GLASS BELT SEALING STRIP-NEW P/N RELEASED - (01/31/1992)

#92-2-226 NEW POLICY FOR CONVERTIBLE TOP BACK WINDOW (INFORMATIONAL) - (05/27/1992)

#92-2-238 DOOR GLASS WONT STAY IN PLACE MANUAL REGULATORS ONLY-REPLACE - (04/09/1992)

#92-2-278 CONVERTIBLE ENHANCEMENTS NOISE, SEATBELT TRIM, OPERATE - (07/16/1992)

#92-5-109 PARK BRAKE HAND LEVER SLIPS ON APPLY (REPLACE LEVER ASSY.) - (02/28/1992)

#92-6-101 SERVICE ENGINE SOON LIGHT (CODE 22) DIAG./PROC. (TPS) - (09/14/1991)

#92-6-115 METALLIC BUZZ OR RATTLE NOISE INSTALL CLAMP/REPOSITION PIPE - (04/03/1992)

#92-6-121 FUEL PUMP DRIVEABILITY ISSUE DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION - (06/04/1992)

#92-631-101 COLD START STALL/HESITATION/ IDLE ROLL/UPSHIFT SAG - (05/30/1991)

#92-631-103 ACCESSORY DRIVE BELT SQUEAL OR CHIRP NOISE, A/C ON, REP. BELT - (10/17/1991)

#92-657-101 INTERNAL COOLANT LEAKS (SERVICE PROCEDURES) - (01/08/1992)

#92-7-106 NEW FLUID LEVEL INDICATORS AND NEW FLUID CHECK PROCEDURES - (04/10/1992)

#92-73L80-100 INTERMIT TRANS DOWNSHIFT/SLIP DIAGNOSIS - (11/07/1991)

#92-74L60-103 (4L60) TRANS PUMP REMOVAL TOOL (ESSENTIAL TOOL FOR REMOVAL) - (02/07/1992)

#92-8-102 SERVICE GUILD: DETECTING ELECT INTERMITTENTS DIAGNOSTIC - (08/09/1991)

#92-8-106 CAUTIONS REGARDING SIR SYSTEM REPAIRS AND PROCEDURES - (09/10/1991)

#92-8-107 OIL PRESSURE GAGE CHANGE (INFORMATION ON NEW GAGE) - (09/12/1991)

#92-8-140 CRUISE CONTROL DROPOUT (FAILS TO SET OR RESUME) - (02/05/1992)

#92-8-167 POOR FM PERFORMANCE W/CDM (RETURN AC DELCO SERV. CTR.) - (08/28/1992)

#93-10-119 SCUFF/SCRATCH REMOVAL PROCESS ALUM. WHEEL WITH CLEAR COAT - (10/16/1992)

#93-10-179 INDUSTRIAL FALLOUT-PAINT DAM. FINESSE TYPE REPAIRS - (11/01/1992)

#93-3E-101 TIRE DAMAGE FROM ASSY PLANTS TIRE REPLACEMENT - (11/01/1992)

#93-3E-103 TIRES SLIPPING ON WHEELS USE PROPER TIRE MOUNTING PROC - (08/01/1993)

#93-3E-104 INFO. ON COSMETIC DAMAGE TO ALUMINUM WHEELS DURING BALANC. - (08/01/1993)

#93-3E-106 LEAKING CAST ALUMINUM WHEELS (REPAIR WITH ADHESIVE SEALANT) - (07/01/1993)

#93-4B-102 DIFFERENTIAL PINION SHAFT LOCKING SCREW (INFORMATIONAL) - (01/08/1993)

#93-6A-104 OIL LEAKS FROM REAR OF ENGINE (REPLACE PLUG) - (10/02/1992)

#93-6C-114 LIGHT HAMMER/RATTLE NOISE (REPL. FUEL FEED HOSE ASSY.) - (06/04/1993)

#93-6C-117 HOT WEATHER DRIVEABILITY (INSTALL NEW FUEL SENDER/PUMP) - (04/07/1993)

#93-7A-104 HARSH 1-2 UPSHIFT INSTALL SERVICE PACKAGE - (09/15/1992)

#93-7A-110 BUZZING NOISE AT IDLE (INSTALL PRESSURE REGULATOR VALVE) - (10/02/1992)

#93-7A-134 INFO. ON SHIFT CONTROL CABLE INSTALLATION PROCEDURES - (02/15/1993)

#93-7A-141 PREMATURE CLUTCH DISC WEAR RPL. CLUTCH DRIVEN DISC/CLUTCH - (04/07/1993)

#93-7A-142 INFO. ON SERVICING VEHICLE WITH CONTAMINATED TRANS. FLUID - (05/19/1993)

#93-7A-153 CLICK/WHINE IN 3RD/4TH GEAR INST. NEW CLUTCH FIBER PLATES - (03/27/1992)

#93-8C-113 OIL PRESSURE INDICATOR AND GAGE SERVICE - (02/15/1993)

#93-9-102 SIR DIAGNOSTIC RESERVE MODULE (DERM) EXCHANGE PROGRAM - (09/30/1991)

#33-32-10A STEERING COLUMN POPPING NOISE (REPL. UPPER BRG. INNER SEAT) - (09/09/1993)

#38-30-01A ILLUSTRATED STEERING SYSTEM BLEED PROCEDURE - (03/16/1993)

#43-62-01B INFORMATION ON SIERRA-BRAND ENGINE COOLANT - (04/01/1995)

#87-60-02A ENG. OIL ODOR (REPLACE REAR MAIN BEARING SEAL) - (06/08/1998)

#92-191-6E COLD START STALL/HESITATION IDLE ROLL AND UPSHIFT SAG - (05/31/1992)

#92-349A-7C PREMATURE CLUTCH DISC WEAR RPL. CLUTCH DRIVEN DISC/CLUTCH - (04/07/1993)

#92-99-1D NEW A/C HIGH SIDE PRESSURE SERVICE PORT ASSY. - (02/14/1992)

#93-03-6D NEW DESIGN SPARK PLUGS (INFORMATION) - (08/01/1992)

#93-04A-1D INFO BULLETIN: USE OF R4 COMPRESSOR SHAFT NUT ELIMINATE - (09/01/1992)

#93-197B-3E INFO. ON COSMETIC DAMAGE TO ALUMINUM WHEELS DURING BALANC. - (08/01/1993)

#93-218-9J RETURN OF UNDEPLOYED (SIR) INFLATOR MODULES - (06/20/1991)

#93-228-7A CLICK/WHINE IN 3RD/4TH GEAR INST. NEW CLUTCH FIBER PLATES - (06/01/1993)

#93-58A-10 INDUSTRIAL FALLOUT/RAIL DUST DAMAGE TO BASE COAT/CLEAR COAT - (02/01/1993)

#92-3-106 ADJUSTING TIRE PRESSURE (DURING NEW VEHICLE PREP) - (11/30/1991)

#92-6-128 NEW DESIGN SPARK PLUGS LONGER CERAMIC INSULATOR - (09/30/1992)

#93-10-148 INDUSTRIAL FALLOUT-PAINT DAM. FINESSE TYPE REPAIRS - (11/01/1992)

#93-10-194 BINDING/STICKING LOCK CYLINDER RECOMMENDED LUBRICATIONS - (04/30/1993)

#92-0-102 ECM, PCM & RCM UNITS - EXCHANGE PROGRAM - (04/15/1992)

#93-1D-100 A/C COMPRESSOR SHAFT NUT REMOVAL (IMPROVED QUALITY) - (10/31/1992)

#93-6D-102 ENG. MISS, HESITATION & ROUGH PIERCED SECONDARY IGNITION - (12/01/1992)

#93-163-8A REPLACEMENT OF ISOLATION DIODES - (09/01/1995)

#01-03-10-009 Plastic Wheel Nut Covers Missing and/or Loose (Replace Missing Covers and Add Sealant to all Covers) - (11/01/2001)